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(int) + 4*5;
Why is this possible? (tried with g++ and gcc.)
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(int) + 4*5;
Why is this possible? (tried with g++ and gcc.)
c++ c casting language-lawyer
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Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^
– bruno
12 hours ago
4
same as(int)-4*5
– P__J__
11 hours ago
1
@jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.
– Ernest Bredar
10 hours ago
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There is a useful tool calledcppinsightsthat helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)
– Nikita Kniazev
6 hours ago
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This statement is equivalent to+(int)+ 4*5;and-(int)- 4*5;and-+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5;and less poetically;
– chqrlie
3 hours ago
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(int) + 4*5;
Why is this possible? (tried with g++ and gcc.)
c++ c casting language-lawyer
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(int) + 4*5;
Why is this possible? (tried with g++ and gcc.)
c++ c casting language-lawyer
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Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^
– bruno
12 hours ago
4
same as(int)-4*5
– P__J__
11 hours ago
1
@jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.
– Ernest Bredar
10 hours ago
7
There is a useful tool calledcppinsightsthat helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)
– Nikita Kniazev
6 hours ago
2
This statement is equivalent to+(int)+ 4*5;and-(int)- 4*5;and-+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5;and less poetically;
– chqrlie
3 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^
– bruno
12 hours ago
4
same as(int)-4*5
– P__J__
11 hours ago
1
@jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.
– Ernest Bredar
10 hours ago
7
There is a useful tool calledcppinsightsthat helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)
– Nikita Kniazev
6 hours ago
2
This statement is equivalent to+(int)+ 4*5;and-(int)- 4*5;and-+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5;and less poetically;
– chqrlie
3 hours ago
Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^
– bruno
12 hours ago
Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^
– bruno
12 hours ago
4
4
same as
(int)-4*5– P__J__
11 hours ago
same as
(int)-4*5– P__J__
11 hours ago
1
1
@jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.
– Ernest Bredar
10 hours ago
@jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.
– Ernest Bredar
10 hours ago
7
7
There is a useful tool called
cppinsights that helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)– Nikita Kniazev
6 hours ago
There is a useful tool called
cppinsights that helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)– Nikita Kniazev
6 hours ago
2
2
This statement is equivalent to
+(int)+ 4*5; and -(int)- 4*5; and -+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5; and less poetically ;– chqrlie
3 hours ago
This statement is equivalent to
+(int)+ 4*5; and -(int)- 4*5; and -+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5; and less poetically ;– chqrlie
3 hours ago
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The + here is unary + operator, not the binary addition operator. There's no addition happening here.
Also, the syntax (int) is used for typecasting.
You can re-read that statement as
(int) (+ 4) * 5;
which is parsed as
((int) (+ 4)) * (5);
which says,
- Make the operand
+4 - typecasted to an
int - multiply with operand
5
This is similar to (int) (- 4) * (5);, where the usage of the unary operator is more familiar.
In your case, the unary + and the cast to int - both are redundant.
edited 9 hours ago
Dancrumb
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answered 12 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
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"Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.
– Keith Thompson
3 hours ago
1
(+ 4)is not make the operand+4, it means apply the unary+to operand4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For examplechar c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof cis probably false andsizeof +"a"is probably not 2.
– chqrlie
3 hours ago
add a comment |
This is interpreted as ((int)(+4)) * 5. That is, an expression +4 (a unary plus operator applied to a literal 4), cast to type int with a C-style cast, and the result multiplied by 5.
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The + here is unary + operator, not the binary addition operator. There's no addition happening here.
Also, the syntax (int) is used for typecasting.
You can re-read that statement as
(int) (+ 4) * 5;
which is parsed as
((int) (+ 4)) * (5);
which says,
- Make the operand
+4 - typecasted to an
int - multiply with operand
5
This is similar to (int) (- 4) * (5);, where the usage of the unary operator is more familiar.
In your case, the unary + and the cast to int - both are redundant.
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"Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.
– Keith Thompson
3 hours ago
1
(+ 4)is not make the operand+4, it means apply the unary+to operand4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For examplechar c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof cis probably false andsizeof +"a"is probably not 2.
– chqrlie
3 hours ago
add a comment |
The + here is unary + operator, not the binary addition operator. There's no addition happening here.
Also, the syntax (int) is used for typecasting.
You can re-read that statement as
(int) (+ 4) * 5;
which is parsed as
((int) (+ 4)) * (5);
which says,
- Make the operand
+4 - typecasted to an
int - multiply with operand
5
This is similar to (int) (- 4) * (5);, where the usage of the unary operator is more familiar.
In your case, the unary + and the cast to int - both are redundant.
edited 9 hours ago
Dancrumb
18.2k448103
answered 12 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
112k15137194
2
"Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.
– Keith Thompson
3 hours ago
1
(+ 4)is not make the operand+4, it means apply the unary+to operand4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For examplechar c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof cis probably false andsizeof +"a"is probably not 2.
– chqrlie
3 hours ago
add a comment |
The + here is unary + operator, not the binary addition operator. There's no addition happening here.
Also, the syntax (int) is used for typecasting.
You can re-read that statement as
(int) (+ 4) * 5;
which is parsed as
((int) (+ 4)) * (5);
which says,
- Make the operand
+4 - typecasted to an
int - multiply with operand
5
This is similar to (int) (- 4) * (5);, where the usage of the unary operator is more familiar.
In your case, the unary + and the cast to int - both are redundant.
edited 9 hours ago
Dancrumb
18.2k448103
answered 12 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
112k15137194
The + here is unary + operator, not the binary addition operator. There's no addition happening here.
Also, the syntax (int) is used for typecasting.
You can re-read that statement as
(int) (+ 4) * 5;
which is parsed as
((int) (+ 4)) * (5);
which says,
- Make the operand
+4 - typecasted to an
int - multiply with operand
5
This is similar to (int) (- 4) * (5);, where the usage of the unary operator is more familiar.
In your case, the unary + and the cast to int - both are redundant.
edited 9 hours ago
Dancrumb
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"Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.
– Keith Thompson
3 hours ago
1
(+ 4)is not make the operand+4, it means apply the unary+to operand4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For examplechar c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof cis probably false andsizeof +"a"is probably not 2.
– chqrlie
3 hours ago
add a comment |
2
"Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.
– Keith Thompson
3 hours ago
1
(+ 4)is not make the operand+4, it means apply the unary+to operand4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For examplechar c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof cis probably false andsizeof +"a"is probably not 2.
– chqrlie
3 hours ago
2
2
"Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.
– Keith Thompson
3 hours ago
"Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.
– Keith Thompson
3 hours ago
1
1
(+ 4) is not make the operand +4, it means apply the unary + to operand 4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For example char c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof c is probably false and sizeof +"a" is probably not 2.– chqrlie
3 hours ago
(+ 4) is not make the operand +4, it means apply the unary + to operand 4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For example char c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof c is probably false and sizeof +"a" is probably not 2.– chqrlie
3 hours ago
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This is interpreted as ((int)(+4)) * 5. That is, an expression +4 (a unary plus operator applied to a literal 4), cast to type int with a C-style cast, and the result multiplied by 5.
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This is interpreted as ((int)(+4)) * 5. That is, an expression +4 (a unary plus operator applied to a literal 4), cast to type int with a C-style cast, and the result multiplied by 5.
answered 12 hours ago
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This is interpreted as ((int)(+4)) * 5. That is, an expression +4 (a unary plus operator applied to a literal 4), cast to type int with a C-style cast, and the result multiplied by 5.
answered 12 hours ago
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This is interpreted as ((int)(+4)) * 5. That is, an expression +4 (a unary plus operator applied to a literal 4), cast to type int with a C-style cast, and the result multiplied by 5.
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Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^
– bruno
12 hours ago
4
same as
(int)-4*5– P__J__
11 hours ago
1
@jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.
– Ernest Bredar
10 hours ago
7
There is a useful tool called
cppinsightsthat helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)– Nikita Kniazev
6 hours ago
2
This statement is equivalent to
+(int)+ 4*5;and-(int)- 4*5;and-+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5;and less poetically;– chqrlie
3 hours ago