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When airplanes disconnect from a tanker during air to air refueling, why do they bank so sharply to the right?
The Next CEO of Stack OverflowWhat is this turn called and how is it performed?What are good strategies for the “impossible turn”?How does the canard plan of the Dassault Rafale work?Why don't airliners use in-air refueling systems?Cruiser-Feeder Concept - feasible?What is this turn called and how is it performed?Why is there a difference between military parachutes and those used for skydiving?What's this sound? - Dogfight between F14 & MiG23Where does the fuel that the mid-air refueling probe collects go to?Why do military jets seem to always take off using the afterburner?How fast do the F-35 weapons bay doors open/close during combat ops?
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Whenever I see videos on YouTube they bank really sharply to the right after disconnecting. Why wouldn’t they do a more shallow 30 degree bank?
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Whenever I see videos on YouTube they bank really sharply to the right after disconnecting. Why wouldn’t they do a more shallow 30 degree bank?
See this video for reference:
military maneuver mid-air-refueling
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Rule Of Cool. Normally they do a barrel roll.
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Whenever I see videos on YouTube they bank really sharply to the right after disconnecting. Why wouldn’t they do a more shallow 30 degree bank?
See this video for reference:
military maneuver mid-air-refueling
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Whenever I see videos on YouTube they bank really sharply to the right after disconnecting. Why wouldn’t they do a more shallow 30 degree bank?
See this video for reference:
military maneuver mid-air-refueling
military maneuver mid-air-refueling
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Rule Of Cool. Normally they do a barrel roll.
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Rule Of Cool. Normally they do a barrel roll.
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Rule Of Cool. Normally they do a barrel roll.
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They are performing the breakaway maneuver, which is the standard way for fighter jets to exit a formation. It provides a way to safely and quickly gain separation from the other aircraft.
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Doesn't really look all that aggressive to me, either way the fighter and the tanker are very vulnerable while refueling. Usually there is more than one aircraft waiting to refuel, so the goal of this game is to run as many of the aircraft in formation through refueling as quickly as possible.
In order to do that, you need to get your wake out of the way for the next guy to get a smooth approach to the basket. As Fooot says in his answer, the pilot is using a standard "breakaway" maneuver to get out of the formation and wait for the other pilots in the flight to get the fuel and continue with the mission.
Plus you just got a full tank of fuel in the world's funnest military equipment...
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Different air forces may operate with different conventions, but right from basic flight training the RAF classifies banked turns of 20 degrees as "gentle," 40 as "medium" and 60 as "steep," and the most commonly used are "medium".
Ref: The RAF Basic Flying Manual (1952 edition) - https://www.t6harvard.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Chapter-3.pdf page 26-27.
The video is just a 40 degree banked turn.
The aircraft have no problem handling the G loads in 60 degree banked turns, and there are not going to be any complaints from passengers in Business Class that the flight crew spilled their gin and tonic!
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Even most light piston aircraft have no problem with 60 degree banked turns. It's just 2 Gs if you hold altitude. That's nothing for a fighter.
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To gain as much seperation as quickly as possible.
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They are performing the breakaway maneuver, which is the standard way for fighter jets to exit a formation. It provides a way to safely and quickly gain separation from the other aircraft.
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They are performing the breakaway maneuver, which is the standard way for fighter jets to exit a formation. It provides a way to safely and quickly gain separation from the other aircraft.
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They are performing the breakaway maneuver, which is the standard way for fighter jets to exit a formation. It provides a way to safely and quickly gain separation from the other aircraft.
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They are performing the breakaway maneuver, which is the standard way for fighter jets to exit a formation. It provides a way to safely and quickly gain separation from the other aircraft.
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Doesn't really look all that aggressive to me, either way the fighter and the tanker are very vulnerable while refueling. Usually there is more than one aircraft waiting to refuel, so the goal of this game is to run as many of the aircraft in formation through refueling as quickly as possible.
In order to do that, you need to get your wake out of the way for the next guy to get a smooth approach to the basket. As Fooot says in his answer, the pilot is using a standard "breakaway" maneuver to get out of the formation and wait for the other pilots in the flight to get the fuel and continue with the mission.
Plus you just got a full tank of fuel in the world's funnest military equipment...
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Doesn't really look all that aggressive to me, either way the fighter and the tanker are very vulnerable while refueling. Usually there is more than one aircraft waiting to refuel, so the goal of this game is to run as many of the aircraft in formation through refueling as quickly as possible.
In order to do that, you need to get your wake out of the way for the next guy to get a smooth approach to the basket. As Fooot says in his answer, the pilot is using a standard "breakaway" maneuver to get out of the formation and wait for the other pilots in the flight to get the fuel and continue with the mission.
Plus you just got a full tank of fuel in the world's funnest military equipment...
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Doesn't really look all that aggressive to me, either way the fighter and the tanker are very vulnerable while refueling. Usually there is more than one aircraft waiting to refuel, so the goal of this game is to run as many of the aircraft in formation through refueling as quickly as possible.
In order to do that, you need to get your wake out of the way for the next guy to get a smooth approach to the basket. As Fooot says in his answer, the pilot is using a standard "breakaway" maneuver to get out of the formation and wait for the other pilots in the flight to get the fuel and continue with the mission.
Plus you just got a full tank of fuel in the world's funnest military equipment...
$endgroup$
Doesn't really look all that aggressive to me, either way the fighter and the tanker are very vulnerable while refueling. Usually there is more than one aircraft waiting to refuel, so the goal of this game is to run as many of the aircraft in formation through refueling as quickly as possible.
In order to do that, you need to get your wake out of the way for the next guy to get a smooth approach to the basket. As Fooot says in his answer, the pilot is using a standard "breakaway" maneuver to get out of the formation and wait for the other pilots in the flight to get the fuel and continue with the mission.
Plus you just got a full tank of fuel in the world's funnest military equipment...
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Different air forces may operate with different conventions, but right from basic flight training the RAF classifies banked turns of 20 degrees as "gentle," 40 as "medium" and 60 as "steep," and the most commonly used are "medium".
Ref: The RAF Basic Flying Manual (1952 edition) - https://www.t6harvard.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Chapter-3.pdf page 26-27.
The video is just a 40 degree banked turn.
The aircraft have no problem handling the G loads in 60 degree banked turns, and there are not going to be any complaints from passengers in Business Class that the flight crew spilled their gin and tonic!
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Even most light piston aircraft have no problem with 60 degree banked turns. It's just 2 Gs if you hold altitude. That's nothing for a fighter.
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– reirab
2 hours ago
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Different air forces may operate with different conventions, but right from basic flight training the RAF classifies banked turns of 20 degrees as "gentle," 40 as "medium" and 60 as "steep," and the most commonly used are "medium".
Ref: The RAF Basic Flying Manual (1952 edition) - https://www.t6harvard.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Chapter-3.pdf page 26-27.
The video is just a 40 degree banked turn.
The aircraft have no problem handling the G loads in 60 degree banked turns, and there are not going to be any complaints from passengers in Business Class that the flight crew spilled their gin and tonic!
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Even most light piston aircraft have no problem with 60 degree banked turns. It's just 2 Gs if you hold altitude. That's nothing for a fighter.
$endgroup$
– reirab
2 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Different air forces may operate with different conventions, but right from basic flight training the RAF classifies banked turns of 20 degrees as "gentle," 40 as "medium" and 60 as "steep," and the most commonly used are "medium".
Ref: The RAF Basic Flying Manual (1952 edition) - https://www.t6harvard.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Chapter-3.pdf page 26-27.
The video is just a 40 degree banked turn.
The aircraft have no problem handling the G loads in 60 degree banked turns, and there are not going to be any complaints from passengers in Business Class that the flight crew spilled their gin and tonic!
$endgroup$
Different air forces may operate with different conventions, but right from basic flight training the RAF classifies banked turns of 20 degrees as "gentle," 40 as "medium" and 60 as "steep," and the most commonly used are "medium".
Ref: The RAF Basic Flying Manual (1952 edition) - https://www.t6harvard.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Chapter-3.pdf page 26-27.
The video is just a 40 degree banked turn.
The aircraft have no problem handling the G loads in 60 degree banked turns, and there are not going to be any complaints from passengers in Business Class that the flight crew spilled their gin and tonic!
answered 3 hours ago
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Even most light piston aircraft have no problem with 60 degree banked turns. It's just 2 Gs if you hold altitude. That's nothing for a fighter.
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– reirab
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Even most light piston aircraft have no problem with 60 degree banked turns. It's just 2 Gs if you hold altitude. That's nothing for a fighter.
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– reirab
2 hours ago
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Even most light piston aircraft have no problem with 60 degree banked turns. It's just 2 Gs if you hold altitude. That's nothing for a fighter.
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– reirab
2 hours ago
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Even most light piston aircraft have no problem with 60 degree banked turns. It's just 2 Gs if you hold altitude. That's nothing for a fighter.
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– reirab
2 hours ago
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To gain as much seperation as quickly as possible.
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To gain as much seperation as quickly as possible.
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To gain as much seperation as quickly as possible.
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To gain as much seperation as quickly as possible.
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