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I live in a part of world where people of color represent a small minority of the population, and TBH the issue of racism is non-existent in my surrounding (or severely understated, I can't judge). Hence, my understanding is limited.
I'm trying to understand what's wrong with costuming yourself as a fictional character? What exactly in the affair with the Canadian Prime minister's past is disrespectful? I've been to masquerades from childhood to college, it didn't come to me that masking as an Indian (and coloring yourself red) or Bruce Lee can be offending or racist? I will likely be in such a situation in the future, should I avoid such disguises?
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I live in a part of world where people of color represent a small minority of the population, and TBH the issue of racism is non-existent in my surrounding (or severely understated, I can't judge). Hence, my understanding is limited.
I'm trying to understand what's wrong with costuming yourself as a fictional character? What exactly in the affair with the Canadian Prime minister's past is disrespectful? I've been to masquerades from childhood to college, it didn't come to me that masking as an Indian (and coloring yourself red) or Bruce Lee can be offending or racist? I will likely be in such a situation in the future, should I avoid such disguises?
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Have you googled "white kid moana costume?"
– Drunk Cynic
8 hours ago
I didn't even hear about Moana until now. I googled, and I would be happier if I didn't. I went down a rabbit hole and kinda spoiled some innocent memories.
– Aleksandar Stojadinovic
8 hours ago
@AleksandarStojadinovic Re: "(and coloring yourself red)" I feel like you should specifically look up the history of that en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redskin, since Redskin is a dictionary-defined racial slur.
– DariM
4 hours ago
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I live in a part of world where people of color represent a small minority of the population, and TBH the issue of racism is non-existent in my surrounding (or severely understated, I can't judge). Hence, my understanding is limited.
I'm trying to understand what's wrong with costuming yourself as a fictional character? What exactly in the affair with the Canadian Prime minister's past is disrespectful? I've been to masquerades from childhood to college, it didn't come to me that masking as an Indian (and coloring yourself red) or Bruce Lee can be offending or racist? I will likely be in such a situation in the future, should I avoid such disguises?
canada racism
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I live in a part of world where people of color represent a small minority of the population, and TBH the issue of racism is non-existent in my surrounding (or severely understated, I can't judge). Hence, my understanding is limited.
I'm trying to understand what's wrong with costuming yourself as a fictional character? What exactly in the affair with the Canadian Prime minister's past is disrespectful? I've been to masquerades from childhood to college, it didn't come to me that masking as an Indian (and coloring yourself red) or Bruce Lee can be offending or racist? I will likely be in such a situation in the future, should I avoid such disguises?
canada racism
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Have you googled "white kid moana costume?"
– Drunk Cynic
8 hours ago
I didn't even hear about Moana until now. I googled, and I would be happier if I didn't. I went down a rabbit hole and kinda spoiled some innocent memories.
– Aleksandar Stojadinovic
8 hours ago
@AleksandarStojadinovic Re: "(and coloring yourself red)" I feel like you should specifically look up the history of that en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redskin, since Redskin is a dictionary-defined racial slur.
– DariM
4 hours ago
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Have you googled "white kid moana costume?"
– Drunk Cynic
8 hours ago
I didn't even hear about Moana until now. I googled, and I would be happier if I didn't. I went down a rabbit hole and kinda spoiled some innocent memories.
– Aleksandar Stojadinovic
8 hours ago
@AleksandarStojadinovic Re: "(and coloring yourself red)" I feel like you should specifically look up the history of that en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redskin, since Redskin is a dictionary-defined racial slur.
– DariM
4 hours ago
1
1
Have you googled "white kid moana costume?"
– Drunk Cynic
8 hours ago
Have you googled "white kid moana costume?"
– Drunk Cynic
8 hours ago
I didn't even hear about Moana until now. I googled, and I would be happier if I didn't. I went down a rabbit hole and kinda spoiled some innocent memories.
– Aleksandar Stojadinovic
8 hours ago
I didn't even hear about Moana until now. I googled, and I would be happier if I didn't. I went down a rabbit hole and kinda spoiled some innocent memories.
– Aleksandar Stojadinovic
8 hours ago
@AleksandarStojadinovic Re: "(and coloring yourself red)" I feel like you should specifically look up the history of that en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redskin, since Redskin is a dictionary-defined racial slur.
– DariM
4 hours ago
@AleksandarStojadinovic Re: "(and coloring yourself red)" I feel like you should specifically look up the history of that en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redskin, since Redskin is a dictionary-defined racial slur.
– DariM
4 hours ago
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Blackface has a history of being a method for expressing racial caricatures and stereotypes. It was intended to be humorous to white audiences and demeaning towards the black people being depicted.
In a more modern context, using blackface demonstrates an ignorance of history and insensitivity even when not deployed with an intent to caricature. It also invokes the privilege of using a skin color when it is convenient, when others are discriminated against daily for having that same skin color.
Reactions to blackface are not universal, but in the US it is considered very disrespectful, and recently in Canada the same is true.
answered 8 hours ago
Bryan KrauseBryan Krause
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I think there were a lot of white people involved in minstrel shows who had no intention of demeaning black people. They were just trying to make a buck by selling a popular form of entertainment. That of course doesn't change the fact that the genre grew out of and helped to to perpetuate the culture of dehumanization that accompanied slavery and has persisted for a century and a half after its abolition.
– phoog
7 hours ago
1
Out of genuine curiosity, is it different to wear "blackface" than it is to, say, wear a cheap plastic mask of a person of color (say, like this, assuming "Hulk" was a race - amazon.com/Seasons-Merchandise-Hulk-Mask/dp/…)? If so, is it then equally racist for a person of color to wear something like this - amazon.com/Justice-League-Party-Masks-8ct/dp/B01D65ADGQ/…? I'm just wondering where the line is drawn. Is it just the face paint that is disrespectful?
– cpcodes
6 hours ago
@cpcodes yes, it's very different
– K Dog
5 hours ago
A very intelligent and measured answer
– K Dog
5 hours ago
1
@DariM I agree with you that there are often other factors, but I think the hardest thing to understand (at least, what I've found harder as a white dude) is that all that "extra" clearly wrong stuff isn't necessary for it to be a problem. I intentionally tried to tailor my answer to that, to avoid talking about the "extra" problems of 'modern' blackface, and make clear that it's a problem by itself.
– Bryan Krause
4 hours ago
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Blackface has a history of being a method for expressing racial caricatures and stereotypes. It was intended to be humorous to white audiences and demeaning towards the black people being depicted.
In a more modern context, using blackface demonstrates an ignorance of history and insensitivity even when not deployed with an intent to caricature. It also invokes the privilege of using a skin color when it is convenient, when others are discriminated against daily for having that same skin color.
Reactions to blackface are not universal, but in the US it is considered very disrespectful, and recently in Canada the same is true.
answered 8 hours ago
Bryan KrauseBryan Krause
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I think there were a lot of white people involved in minstrel shows who had no intention of demeaning black people. They were just trying to make a buck by selling a popular form of entertainment. That of course doesn't change the fact that the genre grew out of and helped to to perpetuate the culture of dehumanization that accompanied slavery and has persisted for a century and a half after its abolition.
– phoog
7 hours ago
1
Out of genuine curiosity, is it different to wear "blackface" than it is to, say, wear a cheap plastic mask of a person of color (say, like this, assuming "Hulk" was a race - amazon.com/Seasons-Merchandise-Hulk-Mask/dp/…)? If so, is it then equally racist for a person of color to wear something like this - amazon.com/Justice-League-Party-Masks-8ct/dp/B01D65ADGQ/…? I'm just wondering where the line is drawn. Is it just the face paint that is disrespectful?
– cpcodes
6 hours ago
@cpcodes yes, it's very different
– K Dog
5 hours ago
A very intelligent and measured answer
– K Dog
5 hours ago
1
@DariM I agree with you that there are often other factors, but I think the hardest thing to understand (at least, what I've found harder as a white dude) is that all that "extra" clearly wrong stuff isn't necessary for it to be a problem. I intentionally tried to tailor my answer to that, to avoid talking about the "extra" problems of 'modern' blackface, and make clear that it's a problem by itself.
– Bryan Krause
4 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
Blackface has a history of being a method for expressing racial caricatures and stereotypes. It was intended to be humorous to white audiences and demeaning towards the black people being depicted.
In a more modern context, using blackface demonstrates an ignorance of history and insensitivity even when not deployed with an intent to caricature. It also invokes the privilege of using a skin color when it is convenient, when others are discriminated against daily for having that same skin color.
Reactions to blackface are not universal, but in the US it is considered very disrespectful, and recently in Canada the same is true.
answered 8 hours ago
Bryan KrauseBryan Krause
1,3117 silver badges15 bronze badges
2
I think there were a lot of white people involved in minstrel shows who had no intention of demeaning black people. They were just trying to make a buck by selling a popular form of entertainment. That of course doesn't change the fact that the genre grew out of and helped to to perpetuate the culture of dehumanization that accompanied slavery and has persisted for a century and a half after its abolition.
– phoog
7 hours ago
1
Out of genuine curiosity, is it different to wear "blackface" than it is to, say, wear a cheap plastic mask of a person of color (say, like this, assuming "Hulk" was a race - amazon.com/Seasons-Merchandise-Hulk-Mask/dp/…)? If so, is it then equally racist for a person of color to wear something like this - amazon.com/Justice-League-Party-Masks-8ct/dp/B01D65ADGQ/…? I'm just wondering where the line is drawn. Is it just the face paint that is disrespectful?
– cpcodes
6 hours ago
@cpcodes yes, it's very different
– K Dog
5 hours ago
A very intelligent and measured answer
– K Dog
5 hours ago
1
@DariM I agree with you that there are often other factors, but I think the hardest thing to understand (at least, what I've found harder as a white dude) is that all that "extra" clearly wrong stuff isn't necessary for it to be a problem. I intentionally tried to tailor my answer to that, to avoid talking about the "extra" problems of 'modern' blackface, and make clear that it's a problem by itself.
– Bryan Krause
4 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
Blackface has a history of being a method for expressing racial caricatures and stereotypes. It was intended to be humorous to white audiences and demeaning towards the black people being depicted.
In a more modern context, using blackface demonstrates an ignorance of history and insensitivity even when not deployed with an intent to caricature. It also invokes the privilege of using a skin color when it is convenient, when others are discriminated against daily for having that same skin color.
Reactions to blackface are not universal, but in the US it is considered very disrespectful, and recently in Canada the same is true.
answered 8 hours ago
Bryan KrauseBryan Krause
1,3117 silver badges15 bronze badges
Blackface has a history of being a method for expressing racial caricatures and stereotypes. It was intended to be humorous to white audiences and demeaning towards the black people being depicted.
In a more modern context, using blackface demonstrates an ignorance of history and insensitivity even when not deployed with an intent to caricature. It also invokes the privilege of using a skin color when it is convenient, when others are discriminated against daily for having that same skin color.
Reactions to blackface are not universal, but in the US it is considered very disrespectful, and recently in Canada the same is true.
answered 8 hours ago
Bryan KrauseBryan Krause
1,3117 silver badges15 bronze badges
answered 8 hours ago
Bryan KrauseBryan Krause
1,3117 silver badges15 bronze badges
answered 8 hours ago
Bryan KrauseBryan Krause
1,3117 silver badges15 bronze badges
answered 8 hours ago
Bryan KrauseBryan Krause
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1,3117 silver badges15 bronze badges
2
I think there were a lot of white people involved in minstrel shows who had no intention of demeaning black people. They were just trying to make a buck by selling a popular form of entertainment. That of course doesn't change the fact that the genre grew out of and helped to to perpetuate the culture of dehumanization that accompanied slavery and has persisted for a century and a half after its abolition.
– phoog
7 hours ago
1
Out of genuine curiosity, is it different to wear "blackface" than it is to, say, wear a cheap plastic mask of a person of color (say, like this, assuming "Hulk" was a race - amazon.com/Seasons-Merchandise-Hulk-Mask/dp/…)? If so, is it then equally racist for a person of color to wear something like this - amazon.com/Justice-League-Party-Masks-8ct/dp/B01D65ADGQ/…? I'm just wondering where the line is drawn. Is it just the face paint that is disrespectful?
– cpcodes
6 hours ago
@cpcodes yes, it's very different
– K Dog
5 hours ago
A very intelligent and measured answer
– K Dog
5 hours ago
1
@DariM I agree with you that there are often other factors, but I think the hardest thing to understand (at least, what I've found harder as a white dude) is that all that "extra" clearly wrong stuff isn't necessary for it to be a problem. I intentionally tried to tailor my answer to that, to avoid talking about the "extra" problems of 'modern' blackface, and make clear that it's a problem by itself.
– Bryan Krause
4 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
2
I think there were a lot of white people involved in minstrel shows who had no intention of demeaning black people. They were just trying to make a buck by selling a popular form of entertainment. That of course doesn't change the fact that the genre grew out of and helped to to perpetuate the culture of dehumanization that accompanied slavery and has persisted for a century and a half after its abolition.
– phoog
7 hours ago
1
Out of genuine curiosity, is it different to wear "blackface" than it is to, say, wear a cheap plastic mask of a person of color (say, like this, assuming "Hulk" was a race - amazon.com/Seasons-Merchandise-Hulk-Mask/dp/…)? If so, is it then equally racist for a person of color to wear something like this - amazon.com/Justice-League-Party-Masks-8ct/dp/B01D65ADGQ/…? I'm just wondering where the line is drawn. Is it just the face paint that is disrespectful?
– cpcodes
6 hours ago
@cpcodes yes, it's very different
– K Dog
5 hours ago
A very intelligent and measured answer
– K Dog
5 hours ago
1
@DariM I agree with you that there are often other factors, but I think the hardest thing to understand (at least, what I've found harder as a white dude) is that all that "extra" clearly wrong stuff isn't necessary for it to be a problem. I intentionally tried to tailor my answer to that, to avoid talking about the "extra" problems of 'modern' blackface, and make clear that it's a problem by itself.
– Bryan Krause
4 hours ago
2
2
I think there were a lot of white people involved in minstrel shows who had no intention of demeaning black people. They were just trying to make a buck by selling a popular form of entertainment. That of course doesn't change the fact that the genre grew out of and helped to to perpetuate the culture of dehumanization that accompanied slavery and has persisted for a century and a half after its abolition.
– phoog
7 hours ago
I think there were a lot of white people involved in minstrel shows who had no intention of demeaning black people. They were just trying to make a buck by selling a popular form of entertainment. That of course doesn't change the fact that the genre grew out of and helped to to perpetuate the culture of dehumanization that accompanied slavery and has persisted for a century and a half after its abolition.
– phoog
7 hours ago
1
1
Out of genuine curiosity, is it different to wear "blackface" than it is to, say, wear a cheap plastic mask of a person of color (say, like this, assuming "Hulk" was a race - amazon.com/Seasons-Merchandise-Hulk-Mask/dp/…)? If so, is it then equally racist for a person of color to wear something like this - amazon.com/Justice-League-Party-Masks-8ct/dp/B01D65ADGQ/…? I'm just wondering where the line is drawn. Is it just the face paint that is disrespectful?
– cpcodes
6 hours ago
Out of genuine curiosity, is it different to wear "blackface" than it is to, say, wear a cheap plastic mask of a person of color (say, like this, assuming "Hulk" was a race - amazon.com/Seasons-Merchandise-Hulk-Mask/dp/…)? If so, is it then equally racist for a person of color to wear something like this - amazon.com/Justice-League-Party-Masks-8ct/dp/B01D65ADGQ/…? I'm just wondering where the line is drawn. Is it just the face paint that is disrespectful?
– cpcodes
6 hours ago
@cpcodes yes, it's very different
– K Dog
5 hours ago
@cpcodes yes, it's very different
– K Dog
5 hours ago
A very intelligent and measured answer
– K Dog
5 hours ago
A very intelligent and measured answer
– K Dog
5 hours ago
1
1
@DariM I agree with you that there are often other factors, but I think the hardest thing to understand (at least, what I've found harder as a white dude) is that all that "extra" clearly wrong stuff isn't necessary for it to be a problem. I intentionally tried to tailor my answer to that, to avoid talking about the "extra" problems of 'modern' blackface, and make clear that it's a problem by itself.
– Bryan Krause
4 hours ago
@DariM I agree with you that there are often other factors, but I think the hardest thing to understand (at least, what I've found harder as a white dude) is that all that "extra" clearly wrong stuff isn't necessary for it to be a problem. I intentionally tried to tailor my answer to that, to avoid talking about the "extra" problems of 'modern' blackface, and make clear that it's a problem by itself.
– Bryan Krause
4 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
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Have you googled "white kid moana costume?"
– Drunk Cynic
8 hours ago
I didn't even hear about Moana until now. I googled, and I would be happier if I didn't. I went down a rabbit hole and kinda spoiled some innocent memories.
– Aleksandar Stojadinovic
8 hours ago
@AleksandarStojadinovic Re: "(and coloring yourself red)" I feel like you should specifically look up the history of that en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redskin, since Redskin is a dictionary-defined racial slur.
– DariM
4 hours ago