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Palatino font (newpxmath) misaligns text in fraction numerators


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I am using pdflatex in Texmaker (implements TeXLive). Using the default font, the numerator text of the following fractions are aligned to a common baseline:



$$fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t$$


default font with aligned numerators



However, using the newpxmath package results in the numerators becoming misaligned:



documentclassarticle
usepackagenewpxmath
begindocument
$$fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t$$
enddocument


newpx font with misaligned numerators



I would like to use New PX for math, but align the numerators as in the default font. I could use vphantom... to force the numerators to have the same height, but is there a more elegant way to do this?










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  • The “aligned at baseline” for default Computer Modern fonts is by accident. If you try fracpartial z_j_jpartial t the numerator would be shifted upward too.

    – Ruixi Zhang
    7 hours ago











  • Aha, that's interesting! So the behaviour in the example is because Palatino has longer "tails" under letters than Computer Modern, and this forces LaTeX to shift them upwards in more situations? Maybe the best solution would be to define a "blfrac" function, that inserts something like vphantomA^A j_j automatically. [EDIT: I would be happy to accept this as an answer btw, if it's the most LaTeX-onic way of doing it - would you like to post it, for the points? :-) ]

    – palatinouser1
    7 hours ago












  • I am exploring other alternatives. You are correct that Palatino has longer descender since it is based on calligraphy. But the downside is that it can look uneven (the partial x and partial y are not on the same baseline either). I would say this is due to the (not-so-well) design of newpxmath, so I think we can play with font dimensions here…

    – Ruixi Zhang
    7 hours ago

















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I am using pdflatex in Texmaker (implements TeXLive). Using the default font, the numerator text of the following fractions are aligned to a common baseline:



$$fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t$$


default font with aligned numerators



However, using the newpxmath package results in the numerators becoming misaligned:



documentclassarticle
usepackagenewpxmath
begindocument
$$fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t$$
enddocument


newpx font with misaligned numerators



I would like to use New PX for math, but align the numerators as in the default font. I could use vphantom... to force the numerators to have the same height, but is there a more elegant way to do this?










share|improve this question









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  • The “aligned at baseline” for default Computer Modern fonts is by accident. If you try fracpartial z_j_jpartial t the numerator would be shifted upward too.

    – Ruixi Zhang
    7 hours ago











  • Aha, that's interesting! So the behaviour in the example is because Palatino has longer "tails" under letters than Computer Modern, and this forces LaTeX to shift them upwards in more situations? Maybe the best solution would be to define a "blfrac" function, that inserts something like vphantomA^A j_j automatically. [EDIT: I would be happy to accept this as an answer btw, if it's the most LaTeX-onic way of doing it - would you like to post it, for the points? :-) ]

    – palatinouser1
    7 hours ago












  • I am exploring other alternatives. You are correct that Palatino has longer descender since it is based on calligraphy. But the downside is that it can look uneven (the partial x and partial y are not on the same baseline either). I would say this is due to the (not-so-well) design of newpxmath, so I think we can play with font dimensions here…

    – Ruixi Zhang
    7 hours ago













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I am using pdflatex in Texmaker (implements TeXLive). Using the default font, the numerator text of the following fractions are aligned to a common baseline:



$$fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t$$


default font with aligned numerators



However, using the newpxmath package results in the numerators becoming misaligned:



documentclassarticle
usepackagenewpxmath
begindocument
$$fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t$$
enddocument


newpx font with misaligned numerators



I would like to use New PX for math, but align the numerators as in the default font. I could use vphantom... to force the numerators to have the same height, but is there a more elegant way to do this?










share|improve this question









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I am using pdflatex in Texmaker (implements TeXLive). Using the default font, the numerator text of the following fractions are aligned to a common baseline:



$$fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t$$


default font with aligned numerators



However, using the newpxmath package results in the numerators becoming misaligned:



documentclassarticle
usepackagenewpxmath
begindocument
$$fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t$$
enddocument


newpx font with misaligned numerators



I would like to use New PX for math, but align the numerators as in the default font. I could use vphantom... to force the numerators to have the same height, but is there a more elegant way to do this?







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  • The “aligned at baseline” for default Computer Modern fonts is by accident. If you try fracpartial z_j_jpartial t the numerator would be shifted upward too.

    – Ruixi Zhang
    7 hours ago











  • Aha, that's interesting! So the behaviour in the example is because Palatino has longer "tails" under letters than Computer Modern, and this forces LaTeX to shift them upwards in more situations? Maybe the best solution would be to define a "blfrac" function, that inserts something like vphantomA^A j_j automatically. [EDIT: I would be happy to accept this as an answer btw, if it's the most LaTeX-onic way of doing it - would you like to post it, for the points? :-) ]

    – palatinouser1
    7 hours ago












  • I am exploring other alternatives. You are correct that Palatino has longer descender since it is based on calligraphy. But the downside is that it can look uneven (the partial x and partial y are not on the same baseline either). I would say this is due to the (not-so-well) design of newpxmath, so I think we can play with font dimensions here…

    – Ruixi Zhang
    7 hours ago

















  • The “aligned at baseline” for default Computer Modern fonts is by accident. If you try fracpartial z_j_jpartial t the numerator would be shifted upward too.

    – Ruixi Zhang
    7 hours ago











  • Aha, that's interesting! So the behaviour in the example is because Palatino has longer "tails" under letters than Computer Modern, and this forces LaTeX to shift them upwards in more situations? Maybe the best solution would be to define a "blfrac" function, that inserts something like vphantomA^A j_j automatically. [EDIT: I would be happy to accept this as an answer btw, if it's the most LaTeX-onic way of doing it - would you like to post it, for the points? :-) ]

    – palatinouser1
    7 hours ago












  • I am exploring other alternatives. You are correct that Palatino has longer descender since it is based on calligraphy. But the downside is that it can look uneven (the partial x and partial y are not on the same baseline either). I would say this is due to the (not-so-well) design of newpxmath, so I think we can play with font dimensions here…

    – Ruixi Zhang
    7 hours ago
















The “aligned at baseline” for default Computer Modern fonts is by accident. If you try fracpartial z_j_jpartial t the numerator would be shifted upward too.

– Ruixi Zhang
7 hours ago





The “aligned at baseline” for default Computer Modern fonts is by accident. If you try fracpartial z_j_jpartial t the numerator would be shifted upward too.

– Ruixi Zhang
7 hours ago













Aha, that's interesting! So the behaviour in the example is because Palatino has longer "tails" under letters than Computer Modern, and this forces LaTeX to shift them upwards in more situations? Maybe the best solution would be to define a "blfrac" function, that inserts something like vphantomA^A j_j automatically. [EDIT: I would be happy to accept this as an answer btw, if it's the most LaTeX-onic way of doing it - would you like to post it, for the points? :-) ]

– palatinouser1
7 hours ago






Aha, that's interesting! So the behaviour in the example is because Palatino has longer "tails" under letters than Computer Modern, and this forces LaTeX to shift them upwards in more situations? Maybe the best solution would be to define a "blfrac" function, that inserts something like vphantomA^A j_j automatically. [EDIT: I would be happy to accept this as an answer btw, if it's the most LaTeX-onic way of doing it - would you like to post it, for the points? :-) ]

– palatinouser1
7 hours ago














I am exploring other alternatives. You are correct that Palatino has longer descender since it is based on calligraphy. But the downside is that it can look uneven (the partial x and partial y are not on the same baseline either). I would say this is due to the (not-so-well) design of newpxmath, so I think we can play with font dimensions here…

– Ruixi Zhang
7 hours ago





I am exploring other alternatives. You are correct that Palatino has longer descender since it is based on calligraphy. But the downside is that it can look uneven (the partial x and partial y are not on the same baseline either). I would say this is due to the (not-so-well) design of newpxmath, so I think we can play with font dimensions here…

– Ruixi Zhang
7 hours ago










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The design of Palatino contains long descenders. When a math font is based Palatino, the various math font dimensions should be chosen to avoid unevenness, as much as possible.



There are many font dimensions governing the positions of numerator and denominator in a fraction. We can change two of them in newpxmath which are the most relevant.



newpxmath-modified



documentclassarticle
usepackagenewpxmath

% Code modified from lmsnpxsy.fd
makeatletter
expandafterifxcsname npxmath@scaledendcsnamerelax
letnpxmath@@scaled@empty%
else
edefnpxmath@@scaleds*[csname npxmath@scaledendcsname]%
fi
DeclareFontFamilyLMSnpxsyprovidecommand setSYdimenssetSYdimensskewchar font =120
DeclareFontShapeLMSnpxsymn%
<-> npxmath@@scaled zplsy
%
fontdimen 8font=0.8fontdimen6font % was 0.677 of a quad
fontdimen11font=0.8fontdimen6font % was 0.686 of a quad

makeatother

usepackagemathtools% for clap
newcommand*drawbaseline%
claprule80pt0.4pt%


begindocument
[
begingathered
x,ydrawbaseline,z\
fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ydrawbaselinepartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t fracpartial z_j_jpartial t\
fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t fracpartial z_j_jpartial t\
endgathered
]
enddocument


Modifying font dimensions gives the most consistent look for all your fractions, but this requires your own aesthetic judgement.



Here, I changed the numerator raising dimension from 0.677 to 0.8 to give more room for long descender. I also changed the denominator dropping dimension from 0.686 to 0.8 for more even spacing both above and below the fraction bar.






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  • Thank you for this great answer. This is very useful to know - your description of the raising and dropping parameters is very helpful. I didn't know that these font parameters could be tweaked, so knowing about this approach will help if I run into similar problems with newpxmath too. Thanks again!

    – palatinouser1
    6 hours ago






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    @palatinouser1 The above code could be simplified to defsetSYdimens... but this turns out revealing a hidden bug in newpxmath. If weren’t for your question I would not notice this bug: Changing dimensions in the symbol font also changes dimensions in the extensible font. I will send an email to the maintainer to report this bug.

    – Ruixi Zhang
    6 hours ago












  • Very nice answer!

    – Oleg Lobachev
    3 hours ago













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The design of Palatino contains long descenders. When a math font is based Palatino, the various math font dimensions should be chosen to avoid unevenness, as much as possible.



There are many font dimensions governing the positions of numerator and denominator in a fraction. We can change two of them in newpxmath which are the most relevant.



newpxmath-modified



documentclassarticle
usepackagenewpxmath

% Code modified from lmsnpxsy.fd
makeatletter
expandafterifxcsname npxmath@scaledendcsnamerelax
letnpxmath@@scaled@empty%
else
edefnpxmath@@scaleds*[csname npxmath@scaledendcsname]%
fi
DeclareFontFamilyLMSnpxsyprovidecommand setSYdimenssetSYdimensskewchar font =120
DeclareFontShapeLMSnpxsymn%
<-> npxmath@@scaled zplsy
%
fontdimen 8font=0.8fontdimen6font % was 0.677 of a quad
fontdimen11font=0.8fontdimen6font % was 0.686 of a quad

makeatother

usepackagemathtools% for clap
newcommand*drawbaseline%
claprule80pt0.4pt%


begindocument
[
begingathered
x,ydrawbaseline,z\
fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ydrawbaselinepartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t fracpartial z_j_jpartial t\
fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t fracpartial z_j_jpartial t\
endgathered
]
enddocument


Modifying font dimensions gives the most consistent look for all your fractions, but this requires your own aesthetic judgement.



Here, I changed the numerator raising dimension from 0.677 to 0.8 to give more room for long descender. I also changed the denominator dropping dimension from 0.686 to 0.8 for more even spacing both above and below the fraction bar.






share|improve this answer

























  • Thank you for this great answer. This is very useful to know - your description of the raising and dropping parameters is very helpful. I didn't know that these font parameters could be tweaked, so knowing about this approach will help if I run into similar problems with newpxmath too. Thanks again!

    – palatinouser1
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    @palatinouser1 The above code could be simplified to defsetSYdimens... but this turns out revealing a hidden bug in newpxmath. If weren’t for your question I would not notice this bug: Changing dimensions in the symbol font also changes dimensions in the extensible font. I will send an email to the maintainer to report this bug.

    – Ruixi Zhang
    6 hours ago












  • Very nice answer!

    – Oleg Lobachev
    3 hours ago















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The design of Palatino contains long descenders. When a math font is based Palatino, the various math font dimensions should be chosen to avoid unevenness, as much as possible.



There are many font dimensions governing the positions of numerator and denominator in a fraction. We can change two of them in newpxmath which are the most relevant.



newpxmath-modified



documentclassarticle
usepackagenewpxmath

% Code modified from lmsnpxsy.fd
makeatletter
expandafterifxcsname npxmath@scaledendcsnamerelax
letnpxmath@@scaled@empty%
else
edefnpxmath@@scaleds*[csname npxmath@scaledendcsname]%
fi
DeclareFontFamilyLMSnpxsyprovidecommand setSYdimenssetSYdimensskewchar font =120
DeclareFontShapeLMSnpxsymn%
<-> npxmath@@scaled zplsy
%
fontdimen 8font=0.8fontdimen6font % was 0.677 of a quad
fontdimen11font=0.8fontdimen6font % was 0.686 of a quad

makeatother

usepackagemathtools% for clap
newcommand*drawbaseline%
claprule80pt0.4pt%


begindocument
[
begingathered
x,ydrawbaseline,z\
fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ydrawbaselinepartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t fracpartial z_j_jpartial t\
fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t fracpartial z_j_jpartial t\
endgathered
]
enddocument


Modifying font dimensions gives the most consistent look for all your fractions, but this requires your own aesthetic judgement.



Here, I changed the numerator raising dimension from 0.677 to 0.8 to give more room for long descender. I also changed the denominator dropping dimension from 0.686 to 0.8 for more even spacing both above and below the fraction bar.






share|improve this answer

























  • Thank you for this great answer. This is very useful to know - your description of the raising and dropping parameters is very helpful. I didn't know that these font parameters could be tweaked, so knowing about this approach will help if I run into similar problems with newpxmath too. Thanks again!

    – palatinouser1
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    @palatinouser1 The above code could be simplified to defsetSYdimens... but this turns out revealing a hidden bug in newpxmath. If weren’t for your question I would not notice this bug: Changing dimensions in the symbol font also changes dimensions in the extensible font. I will send an email to the maintainer to report this bug.

    – Ruixi Zhang
    6 hours ago












  • Very nice answer!

    – Oleg Lobachev
    3 hours ago













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The design of Palatino contains long descenders. When a math font is based Palatino, the various math font dimensions should be chosen to avoid unevenness, as much as possible.



There are many font dimensions governing the positions of numerator and denominator in a fraction. We can change two of them in newpxmath which are the most relevant.



newpxmath-modified



documentclassarticle
usepackagenewpxmath

% Code modified from lmsnpxsy.fd
makeatletter
expandafterifxcsname npxmath@scaledendcsnamerelax
letnpxmath@@scaled@empty%
else
edefnpxmath@@scaleds*[csname npxmath@scaledendcsname]%
fi
DeclareFontFamilyLMSnpxsyprovidecommand setSYdimenssetSYdimensskewchar font =120
DeclareFontShapeLMSnpxsymn%
<-> npxmath@@scaled zplsy
%
fontdimen 8font=0.8fontdimen6font % was 0.677 of a quad
fontdimen11font=0.8fontdimen6font % was 0.686 of a quad

makeatother

usepackagemathtools% for clap
newcommand*drawbaseline%
claprule80pt0.4pt%


begindocument
[
begingathered
x,ydrawbaseline,z\
fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ydrawbaselinepartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t fracpartial z_j_jpartial t\
fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t fracpartial z_j_jpartial t\
endgathered
]
enddocument


Modifying font dimensions gives the most consistent look for all your fractions, but this requires your own aesthetic judgement.



Here, I changed the numerator raising dimension from 0.677 to 0.8 to give more room for long descender. I also changed the denominator dropping dimension from 0.686 to 0.8 for more even spacing both above and below the fraction bar.






share|improve this answer













The design of Palatino contains long descenders. When a math font is based Palatino, the various math font dimensions should be chosen to avoid unevenness, as much as possible.



There are many font dimensions governing the positions of numerator and denominator in a fraction. We can change two of them in newpxmath which are the most relevant.



newpxmath-modified



documentclassarticle
usepackagenewpxmath

% Code modified from lmsnpxsy.fd
makeatletter
expandafterifxcsname npxmath@scaledendcsnamerelax
letnpxmath@@scaled@empty%
else
edefnpxmath@@scaleds*[csname npxmath@scaledendcsname]%
fi
DeclareFontFamilyLMSnpxsyprovidecommand setSYdimenssetSYdimensskewchar font =120
DeclareFontShapeLMSnpxsymn%
<-> npxmath@@scaled zplsy
%
fontdimen 8font=0.8fontdimen6font % was 0.677 of a quad
fontdimen11font=0.8fontdimen6font % was 0.686 of a quad

makeatother

usepackagemathtools% for clap
newcommand*drawbaseline%
claprule80pt0.4pt%


begindocument
[
begingathered
x,ydrawbaseline,z\
fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ydrawbaselinepartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t fracpartial z_j_jpartial t\
fracpartial xpartial t fracpartial ypartial t fracpartial z_jpartial t fracpartial z_j_jpartial t\
endgathered
]
enddocument


Modifying font dimensions gives the most consistent look for all your fractions, but this requires your own aesthetic judgement.



Here, I changed the numerator raising dimension from 0.677 to 0.8 to give more room for long descender. I also changed the denominator dropping dimension from 0.686 to 0.8 for more even spacing both above and below the fraction bar.







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  • Thank you for this great answer. This is very useful to know - your description of the raising and dropping parameters is very helpful. I didn't know that these font parameters could be tweaked, so knowing about this approach will help if I run into similar problems with newpxmath too. Thanks again!

    – palatinouser1
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    @palatinouser1 The above code could be simplified to defsetSYdimens... but this turns out revealing a hidden bug in newpxmath. If weren’t for your question I would not notice this bug: Changing dimensions in the symbol font also changes dimensions in the extensible font. I will send an email to the maintainer to report this bug.

    – Ruixi Zhang
    6 hours ago












  • Very nice answer!

    – Oleg Lobachev
    3 hours ago

















  • Thank you for this great answer. This is very useful to know - your description of the raising and dropping parameters is very helpful. I didn't know that these font parameters could be tweaked, so knowing about this approach will help if I run into similar problems with newpxmath too. Thanks again!

    – palatinouser1
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    @palatinouser1 The above code could be simplified to defsetSYdimens... but this turns out revealing a hidden bug in newpxmath. If weren’t for your question I would not notice this bug: Changing dimensions in the symbol font also changes dimensions in the extensible font. I will send an email to the maintainer to report this bug.

    – Ruixi Zhang
    6 hours ago












  • Very nice answer!

    – Oleg Lobachev
    3 hours ago
















Thank you for this great answer. This is very useful to know - your description of the raising and dropping parameters is very helpful. I didn't know that these font parameters could be tweaked, so knowing about this approach will help if I run into similar problems with newpxmath too. Thanks again!

– palatinouser1
6 hours ago





Thank you for this great answer. This is very useful to know - your description of the raising and dropping parameters is very helpful. I didn't know that these font parameters could be tweaked, so knowing about this approach will help if I run into similar problems with newpxmath too. Thanks again!

– palatinouser1
6 hours ago




1




1





@palatinouser1 The above code could be simplified to defsetSYdimens... but this turns out revealing a hidden bug in newpxmath. If weren’t for your question I would not notice this bug: Changing dimensions in the symbol font also changes dimensions in the extensible font. I will send an email to the maintainer to report this bug.

– Ruixi Zhang
6 hours ago






@palatinouser1 The above code could be simplified to defsetSYdimens... but this turns out revealing a hidden bug in newpxmath. If weren’t for your question I would not notice this bug: Changing dimensions in the symbol font also changes dimensions in the extensible font. I will send an email to the maintainer to report this bug.

– Ruixi Zhang
6 hours ago














Very nice answer!

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3 hours ago





Very nice answer!

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