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Find equation of the circle whose diameter is the common chord of two other circles?
Find the equation of a circle which is tangent to $y$-axis at a given point and cuts a chord of given length on the $x$-axisFind the length of the chord given that the circle's diameter and the subtended angleCircle Chord Length Given other ChordHow to find the equation of diameter of a circle that passes through the origin?How to find the common chord to $2$ parabolasCircles are drawn through $P$ touching the coordinate axes,such that the length of the common chord of these circles is maximum.Find the ratio $a:b$Find the Length of a Common ChordFind length of chord between two tangents and distance of chord from originGiven two points endpoints of circle chord find the locus of midpointFind chord length given equations for circle and line
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Circle 1:
$$x^2 + y^2 +6x + 2y +6 = 0$$
Circle 2:
$$x^2 + y^2 + 8x + y + 10 = 0$$
My attampt:
From circle 1 and 2, I found
$$ y = 2x + 4 $$
which is the common chord.
Pluging that in equation 1 I got
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30 = 0$$
here I got stuck for too much complication if I use quadratic formula.Is there anything wrong?
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Circle 1:
$$x^2 + y^2 +6x + 2y +6 = 0$$
Circle 2:
$$x^2 + y^2 + 8x + y + 10 = 0$$
My attampt:
From circle 1 and 2, I found
$$ y = 2x + 4 $$
which is the common chord.
Pluging that in equation 1 I got
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30 = 0$$
here I got stuck for too much complication if I use quadratic formula.Is there anything wrong?
analytic-geometry circles
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That’s not the common chord: a chord is a line segment. That’s the circles’ radical axis, which is the extension of the common chord.
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Circle 1:
$$x^2 + y^2 +6x + 2y +6 = 0$$
Circle 2:
$$x^2 + y^2 + 8x + y + 10 = 0$$
My attampt:
From circle 1 and 2, I found
$$ y = 2x + 4 $$
which is the common chord.
Pluging that in equation 1 I got
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30 = 0$$
here I got stuck for too much complication if I use quadratic formula.Is there anything wrong?
analytic-geometry circles
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Circle 1:
$$x^2 + y^2 +6x + 2y +6 = 0$$
Circle 2:
$$x^2 + y^2 + 8x + y + 10 = 0$$
My attampt:
From circle 1 and 2, I found
$$ y = 2x + 4 $$
which is the common chord.
Pluging that in equation 1 I got
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30 = 0$$
here I got stuck for too much complication if I use quadratic formula.Is there anything wrong?
analytic-geometry circles
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That’s not the common chord: a chord is a line segment. That’s the circles’ radical axis, which is the extension of the common chord.
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That’s not the common chord: a chord is a line segment. That’s the circles’ radical axis, which is the extension of the common chord.
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– amd
6 hours ago
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That’s not the common chord: a chord is a line segment. That’s the circles’ radical axis, which is the extension of the common chord.
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– amd
6 hours ago
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That’s not the common chord: a chord is a line segment. That’s the circles’ radical axis, which is the extension of the common chord.
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First, obtain the equations of the intersection points below for both $x$ and $y$,
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30= 0$$
$$5y^2 + 12y -8= 0$$
It may be more efficient not to solve for the intersection points explicitly. Rather, use the relationships from the above equations ,
$$x_1+x_2=-frac265,>>>x_1x_2=6$$
$$y_1+y_2=-frac125,>>>y_1y_2=-frac 85 $$
Thus, the center of the circle is $(-13/5, -6/5)$ and its diameter squared is,
$$(x_1-x_2)^2 + (y_1-y_2)^2$$
$$ = (x_1+x_2)^2- 4x_1x_2 + (y_1+y_2)^2 - 4y_1y_2$$
$$= left( frac265 right)^2 -4cdot 6 + left( frac125right)^2 + 4cdot frac 85 = frac765$$
The equation of the circle is
$$left( x+frac135 right)^2 + left( y +frac65right)^2 = frac195$$
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You are on the right track. The numbers cancel out nicely when you sum them. Indeed:
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30 = 0 Rightarrow x_1=frac-13-sqrt195,x_2=frac-13+sqrt195\
y_1=frac-6-2sqrt195, y_2=frac-6+2sqrt195$$
The center of the new circle:
$$fracx_1+x_22=-frac135,fracy_1+y_22=-frac65$$
The diameter of the new circle:
$$d=sqrt(x_1-x_2)^2+(y_1-y_2)^2=sqrtfrac4cdot 1925+frac16cdot 1925=sqrtfrac765 Rightarrow \
r=frac12d=sqrtfrac764cdot 5=sqrtfrac195$$
Thus:
$$left(x+frac135right)^2+left(y+frac65right)^2=frac195.$$
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Comparing this to other solutions, solving the quadratic equation is not so much more complicated after all. Sometimes you just have to not give up so quickly.
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You can certainly keep going the way you are: solve the quadratic equation for $x$ and substitute back into the equation of the radical axis (or either circle equation) to get the endpoints $(x_1,y_1)$ and $(x_2,y_2)$ of the chord. An equation of the circle with that diameter can be written down directly: $(x-x_1)(x-x_2)+(y-y_1)(y-y_2)=0$. Rearrange this into whatever form is required.
However, there’s another way to solve this that requires less work, I think. The circles that pass through the two intersection points form a one-parameter family with equations that can be expressed as an affine combination of the equations of the two circles, to wit, $$(1-lambda)(x^2+y^2+6x+2y+6)+lambda(x^2+y^2+8x+y+10) = 0$$ or $$x^2+y^2+(2lambda+6)x+(2-lambda)y+(4lambda+6)=0.tag*$$ By inspection, the coordinates of the center of this circle are $(-lambda-3,lambda/2-1)$ and we want it to lie on the radical axis $y=2x+4$. Substitute the coordinates of the center into this equation and solve the resulting linear equation for $lambda$, then plug that value into equation (*).
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First, obtain the equations of the intersection points below for both $x$ and $y$,
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30= 0$$
$$5y^2 + 12y -8= 0$$
It may be more efficient not to solve for the intersection points explicitly. Rather, use the relationships from the above equations ,
$$x_1+x_2=-frac265,>>>x_1x_2=6$$
$$y_1+y_2=-frac125,>>>y_1y_2=-frac 85 $$
Thus, the center of the circle is $(-13/5, -6/5)$ and its diameter squared is,
$$(x_1-x_2)^2 + (y_1-y_2)^2$$
$$ = (x_1+x_2)^2- 4x_1x_2 + (y_1+y_2)^2 - 4y_1y_2$$
$$= left( frac265 right)^2 -4cdot 6 + left( frac125right)^2 + 4cdot frac 85 = frac765$$
The equation of the circle is
$$left( x+frac135 right)^2 + left( y +frac65right)^2 = frac195$$
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$begingroup$
First, obtain the equations of the intersection points below for both $x$ and $y$,
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30= 0$$
$$5y^2 + 12y -8= 0$$
It may be more efficient not to solve for the intersection points explicitly. Rather, use the relationships from the above equations ,
$$x_1+x_2=-frac265,>>>x_1x_2=6$$
$$y_1+y_2=-frac125,>>>y_1y_2=-frac 85 $$
Thus, the center of the circle is $(-13/5, -6/5)$ and its diameter squared is,
$$(x_1-x_2)^2 + (y_1-y_2)^2$$
$$ = (x_1+x_2)^2- 4x_1x_2 + (y_1+y_2)^2 - 4y_1y_2$$
$$= left( frac265 right)^2 -4cdot 6 + left( frac125right)^2 + 4cdot frac 85 = frac765$$
The equation of the circle is
$$left( x+frac135 right)^2 + left( y +frac65right)^2 = frac195$$
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$begingroup$
First, obtain the equations of the intersection points below for both $x$ and $y$,
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30= 0$$
$$5y^2 + 12y -8= 0$$
It may be more efficient not to solve for the intersection points explicitly. Rather, use the relationships from the above equations ,
$$x_1+x_2=-frac265,>>>x_1x_2=6$$
$$y_1+y_2=-frac125,>>>y_1y_2=-frac 85 $$
Thus, the center of the circle is $(-13/5, -6/5)$ and its diameter squared is,
$$(x_1-x_2)^2 + (y_1-y_2)^2$$
$$ = (x_1+x_2)^2- 4x_1x_2 + (y_1+y_2)^2 - 4y_1y_2$$
$$= left( frac265 right)^2 -4cdot 6 + left( frac125right)^2 + 4cdot frac 85 = frac765$$
The equation of the circle is
$$left( x+frac135 right)^2 + left( y +frac65right)^2 = frac195$$
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First, obtain the equations of the intersection points below for both $x$ and $y$,
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30= 0$$
$$5y^2 + 12y -8= 0$$
It may be more efficient not to solve for the intersection points explicitly. Rather, use the relationships from the above equations ,
$$x_1+x_2=-frac265,>>>x_1x_2=6$$
$$y_1+y_2=-frac125,>>>y_1y_2=-frac 85 $$
Thus, the center of the circle is $(-13/5, -6/5)$ and its diameter squared is,
$$(x_1-x_2)^2 + (y_1-y_2)^2$$
$$ = (x_1+x_2)^2- 4x_1x_2 + (y_1+y_2)^2 - 4y_1y_2$$
$$= left( frac265 right)^2 -4cdot 6 + left( frac125right)^2 + 4cdot frac 85 = frac765$$
The equation of the circle is
$$left( x+frac135 right)^2 + left( y +frac65right)^2 = frac195$$
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You are on the right track. The numbers cancel out nicely when you sum them. Indeed:
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30 = 0 Rightarrow x_1=frac-13-sqrt195,x_2=frac-13+sqrt195\
y_1=frac-6-2sqrt195, y_2=frac-6+2sqrt195$$
The center of the new circle:
$$fracx_1+x_22=-frac135,fracy_1+y_22=-frac65$$
The diameter of the new circle:
$$d=sqrt(x_1-x_2)^2+(y_1-y_2)^2=sqrtfrac4cdot 1925+frac16cdot 1925=sqrtfrac765 Rightarrow \
r=frac12d=sqrtfrac764cdot 5=sqrtfrac195$$
Thus:
$$left(x+frac135right)^2+left(y+frac65right)^2=frac195.$$
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Comparing this to other solutions, solving the quadratic equation is not so much more complicated after all. Sometimes you just have to not give up so quickly.
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– David K
6 hours ago
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$begingroup$
You are on the right track. The numbers cancel out nicely when you sum them. Indeed:
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30 = 0 Rightarrow x_1=frac-13-sqrt195,x_2=frac-13+sqrt195\
y_1=frac-6-2sqrt195, y_2=frac-6+2sqrt195$$
The center of the new circle:
$$fracx_1+x_22=-frac135,fracy_1+y_22=-frac65$$
The diameter of the new circle:
$$d=sqrt(x_1-x_2)^2+(y_1-y_2)^2=sqrtfrac4cdot 1925+frac16cdot 1925=sqrtfrac765 Rightarrow \
r=frac12d=sqrtfrac764cdot 5=sqrtfrac195$$
Thus:
$$left(x+frac135right)^2+left(y+frac65right)^2=frac195.$$
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$begingroup$
Comparing this to other solutions, solving the quadratic equation is not so much more complicated after all. Sometimes you just have to not give up so quickly.
$endgroup$
– David K
6 hours ago
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$begingroup$
You are on the right track. The numbers cancel out nicely when you sum them. Indeed:
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30 = 0 Rightarrow x_1=frac-13-sqrt195,x_2=frac-13+sqrt195\
y_1=frac-6-2sqrt195, y_2=frac-6+2sqrt195$$
The center of the new circle:
$$fracx_1+x_22=-frac135,fracy_1+y_22=-frac65$$
The diameter of the new circle:
$$d=sqrt(x_1-x_2)^2+(y_1-y_2)^2=sqrtfrac4cdot 1925+frac16cdot 1925=sqrtfrac765 Rightarrow \
r=frac12d=sqrtfrac764cdot 5=sqrtfrac195$$
Thus:
$$left(x+frac135right)^2+left(y+frac65right)^2=frac195.$$
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You are on the right track. The numbers cancel out nicely when you sum them. Indeed:
$$5x^2 + 26x + 30 = 0 Rightarrow x_1=frac-13-sqrt195,x_2=frac-13+sqrt195\
y_1=frac-6-2sqrt195, y_2=frac-6+2sqrt195$$
The center of the new circle:
$$fracx_1+x_22=-frac135,fracy_1+y_22=-frac65$$
The diameter of the new circle:
$$d=sqrt(x_1-x_2)^2+(y_1-y_2)^2=sqrtfrac4cdot 1925+frac16cdot 1925=sqrtfrac765 Rightarrow \
r=frac12d=sqrtfrac764cdot 5=sqrtfrac195$$
Thus:
$$left(x+frac135right)^2+left(y+frac65right)^2=frac195.$$
answered 8 hours ago
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Comparing this to other solutions, solving the quadratic equation is not so much more complicated after all. Sometimes you just have to not give up so quickly.
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Comparing this to other solutions, solving the quadratic equation is not so much more complicated after all. Sometimes you just have to not give up so quickly.
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– David K
6 hours ago
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Comparing this to other solutions, solving the quadratic equation is not so much more complicated after all. Sometimes you just have to not give up so quickly.
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– David K
6 hours ago
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Comparing this to other solutions, solving the quadratic equation is not so much more complicated after all. Sometimes you just have to not give up so quickly.
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– David K
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You can certainly keep going the way you are: solve the quadratic equation for $x$ and substitute back into the equation of the radical axis (or either circle equation) to get the endpoints $(x_1,y_1)$ and $(x_2,y_2)$ of the chord. An equation of the circle with that diameter can be written down directly: $(x-x_1)(x-x_2)+(y-y_1)(y-y_2)=0$. Rearrange this into whatever form is required.
However, there’s another way to solve this that requires less work, I think. The circles that pass through the two intersection points form a one-parameter family with equations that can be expressed as an affine combination of the equations of the two circles, to wit, $$(1-lambda)(x^2+y^2+6x+2y+6)+lambda(x^2+y^2+8x+y+10) = 0$$ or $$x^2+y^2+(2lambda+6)x+(2-lambda)y+(4lambda+6)=0.tag*$$ By inspection, the coordinates of the center of this circle are $(-lambda-3,lambda/2-1)$ and we want it to lie on the radical axis $y=2x+4$. Substitute the coordinates of the center into this equation and solve the resulting linear equation for $lambda$, then plug that value into equation (*).
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You can certainly keep going the way you are: solve the quadratic equation for $x$ and substitute back into the equation of the radical axis (or either circle equation) to get the endpoints $(x_1,y_1)$ and $(x_2,y_2)$ of the chord. An equation of the circle with that diameter can be written down directly: $(x-x_1)(x-x_2)+(y-y_1)(y-y_2)=0$. Rearrange this into whatever form is required.
However, there’s another way to solve this that requires less work, I think. The circles that pass through the two intersection points form a one-parameter family with equations that can be expressed as an affine combination of the equations of the two circles, to wit, $$(1-lambda)(x^2+y^2+6x+2y+6)+lambda(x^2+y^2+8x+y+10) = 0$$ or $$x^2+y^2+(2lambda+6)x+(2-lambda)y+(4lambda+6)=0.tag*$$ By inspection, the coordinates of the center of this circle are $(-lambda-3,lambda/2-1)$ and we want it to lie on the radical axis $y=2x+4$. Substitute the coordinates of the center into this equation and solve the resulting linear equation for $lambda$, then plug that value into equation (*).
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You can certainly keep going the way you are: solve the quadratic equation for $x$ and substitute back into the equation of the radical axis (or either circle equation) to get the endpoints $(x_1,y_1)$ and $(x_2,y_2)$ of the chord. An equation of the circle with that diameter can be written down directly: $(x-x_1)(x-x_2)+(y-y_1)(y-y_2)=0$. Rearrange this into whatever form is required.
However, there’s another way to solve this that requires less work, I think. The circles that pass through the two intersection points form a one-parameter family with equations that can be expressed as an affine combination of the equations of the two circles, to wit, $$(1-lambda)(x^2+y^2+6x+2y+6)+lambda(x^2+y^2+8x+y+10) = 0$$ or $$x^2+y^2+(2lambda+6)x+(2-lambda)y+(4lambda+6)=0.tag*$$ By inspection, the coordinates of the center of this circle are $(-lambda-3,lambda/2-1)$ and we want it to lie on the radical axis $y=2x+4$. Substitute the coordinates of the center into this equation and solve the resulting linear equation for $lambda$, then plug that value into equation (*).
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You can certainly keep going the way you are: solve the quadratic equation for $x$ and substitute back into the equation of the radical axis (or either circle equation) to get the endpoints $(x_1,y_1)$ and $(x_2,y_2)$ of the chord. An equation of the circle with that diameter can be written down directly: $(x-x_1)(x-x_2)+(y-y_1)(y-y_2)=0$. Rearrange this into whatever form is required.
However, there’s another way to solve this that requires less work, I think. The circles that pass through the two intersection points form a one-parameter family with equations that can be expressed as an affine combination of the equations of the two circles, to wit, $$(1-lambda)(x^2+y^2+6x+2y+6)+lambda(x^2+y^2+8x+y+10) = 0$$ or $$x^2+y^2+(2lambda+6)x+(2-lambda)y+(4lambda+6)=0.tag*$$ By inspection, the coordinates of the center of this circle are $(-lambda-3,lambda/2-1)$ and we want it to lie on the radical axis $y=2x+4$. Substitute the coordinates of the center into this equation and solve the resulting linear equation for $lambda$, then plug that value into equation (*).
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That’s not the common chord: a chord is a line segment. That’s the circles’ radical axis, which is the extension of the common chord.
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