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How would a situation where rescue is impossible be handled by the crew?
Were cosmonauts equipped with poison pills?How would a situation where rescue is impossible be handled by ground staff?Has any spacecraft had a way for the crew to escape during reentry?How hard is it on the crew to go through the 14+ g's of a launchpad abort of the Soyuz, or the Falcon system?Where are the COPVs on Falcon 9's second stage?Could a micrometeorite bombardment in an IMIS craft result in reactor rupture leading to the crew becoming stranded?Was a method available to save the Challenger Crew?Did the crew of Soyuz MS-10 pass the Karman Line?How easy would opening an Apollo capsule following dry landing be?How did the Mir crew recover from the power outage following collision with Progress 34?Was launch pad 110R ever used again after being obliterated on 3 July 1969?
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The President of the United States famously had a speech prepared for the eventuality of the Apollo 11 crew getting stuck on the moon and unable to be rescued.
What plans have been made for how a similar situation be handled by the crew might? Doesn't have to be Apollo related, any non-recoverable situation is okay, and any space agency, not just NASA. For example, I read that some Soviet cosmonauts were given cyanide pills.
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The President of the United States famously had a speech prepared for the eventuality of the Apollo 11 crew getting stuck on the moon and unable to be rescued.
What plans have been made for how a similar situation be handled by the crew might? Doesn't have to be Apollo related, any non-recoverable situation is okay, and any space agency, not just NASA. For example, I read that some Soviet cosmonauts were given cyanide pills.
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The President of the United States famously had a speech prepared for the eventuality of the Apollo 11 crew getting stuck on the moon and unable to be rescued.
What plans have been made for how a similar situation be handled by the crew might? Doesn't have to be Apollo related, any non-recoverable situation is okay, and any space agency, not just NASA. For example, I read that some Soviet cosmonauts were given cyanide pills.
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The President of the United States famously had a speech prepared for the eventuality of the Apollo 11 crew getting stuck on the moon and unable to be rescued.
What plans have been made for how a similar situation be handled by the crew might? Doesn't have to be Apollo related, any non-recoverable situation is okay, and any space agency, not just NASA. For example, I read that some Soviet cosmonauts were given cyanide pills.
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As covered by an earlier QA here, there's not much evidence for the cyanide pill story.
Jim Lovell stated that they'd continue to try to solve the problem until consumables ran out, then vent their remaining air out to space for a quick and painless end. I assume most of the American astronauts would have felt the same way.
Andrew Chaikin, interviewing Lovell about Apollo 13:
Surprisingly, Lovell never felt as if he were staring death in the face.
"I think that as long as we had an option, it never really came up," Lovell explained. "If there was a chance to get home, you work on the plus side; you don't work on the minus side."
"We never would've thought about it [death] until all hope was lost," Lovell told me. "And then our idea was, if all hope was lost, if we went by the Earth -- say we missed the Earth. And we were on an orbit about the sun, if we had exceeded the escape velocity.... My idea was to hold off, you know, as long as we had options, as long as we could stand it, send back data.... We probably would have been farther out than anybody. And then, you know, then we would decide, you know, what to do.
"People often say, 'Did you [carry] a suicide pill?' or something like that," said Lovell. "You didn't [need] those. All you had to do was crank open the little valve to the hatch, there...
"Maybe we would have all committed suicide by opening up the vent valve," said Lovell. "And that would have been the end of the deal."
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Source for the suicide statement?
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Finally found a good one from Lovell.
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As covered by an earlier QA here, there's not much evidence for the cyanide pill story.
Jim Lovell stated that they'd continue to try to solve the problem until consumables ran out, then vent their remaining air out to space for a quick and painless end. I assume most of the American astronauts would have felt the same way.
Andrew Chaikin, interviewing Lovell about Apollo 13:
Surprisingly, Lovell never felt as if he were staring death in the face.
"I think that as long as we had an option, it never really came up," Lovell explained. "If there was a chance to get home, you work on the plus side; you don't work on the minus side."
"We never would've thought about it [death] until all hope was lost," Lovell told me. "And then our idea was, if all hope was lost, if we went by the Earth -- say we missed the Earth. And we were on an orbit about the sun, if we had exceeded the escape velocity.... My idea was to hold off, you know, as long as we had options, as long as we could stand it, send back data.... We probably would have been farther out than anybody. And then, you know, then we would decide, you know, what to do.
"People often say, 'Did you [carry] a suicide pill?' or something like that," said Lovell. "You didn't [need] those. All you had to do was crank open the little valve to the hatch, there...
"Maybe we would have all committed suicide by opening up the vent valve," said Lovell. "And that would have been the end of the deal."
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Source for the suicide statement?
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– Organic Marble
6 hours ago
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Finally found a good one from Lovell.
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– Russell Borogove
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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As covered by an earlier QA here, there's not much evidence for the cyanide pill story.
Jim Lovell stated that they'd continue to try to solve the problem until consumables ran out, then vent their remaining air out to space for a quick and painless end. I assume most of the American astronauts would have felt the same way.
Andrew Chaikin, interviewing Lovell about Apollo 13:
Surprisingly, Lovell never felt as if he were staring death in the face.
"I think that as long as we had an option, it never really came up," Lovell explained. "If there was a chance to get home, you work on the plus side; you don't work on the minus side."
"We never would've thought about it [death] until all hope was lost," Lovell told me. "And then our idea was, if all hope was lost, if we went by the Earth -- say we missed the Earth. And we were on an orbit about the sun, if we had exceeded the escape velocity.... My idea was to hold off, you know, as long as we had options, as long as we could stand it, send back data.... We probably would have been farther out than anybody. And then, you know, then we would decide, you know, what to do.
"People often say, 'Did you [carry] a suicide pill?' or something like that," said Lovell. "You didn't [need] those. All you had to do was crank open the little valve to the hatch, there...
"Maybe we would have all committed suicide by opening up the vent valve," said Lovell. "And that would have been the end of the deal."
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Source for the suicide statement?
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– Organic Marble
6 hours ago
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Finally found a good one from Lovell.
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– Russell Borogove
5 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
As covered by an earlier QA here, there's not much evidence for the cyanide pill story.
Jim Lovell stated that they'd continue to try to solve the problem until consumables ran out, then vent their remaining air out to space for a quick and painless end. I assume most of the American astronauts would have felt the same way.
Andrew Chaikin, interviewing Lovell about Apollo 13:
Surprisingly, Lovell never felt as if he were staring death in the face.
"I think that as long as we had an option, it never really came up," Lovell explained. "If there was a chance to get home, you work on the plus side; you don't work on the minus side."
"We never would've thought about it [death] until all hope was lost," Lovell told me. "And then our idea was, if all hope was lost, if we went by the Earth -- say we missed the Earth. And we were on an orbit about the sun, if we had exceeded the escape velocity.... My idea was to hold off, you know, as long as we had options, as long as we could stand it, send back data.... We probably would have been farther out than anybody. And then, you know, then we would decide, you know, what to do.
"People often say, 'Did you [carry] a suicide pill?' or something like that," said Lovell. "You didn't [need] those. All you had to do was crank open the little valve to the hatch, there...
"Maybe we would have all committed suicide by opening up the vent valve," said Lovell. "And that would have been the end of the deal."
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As covered by an earlier QA here, there's not much evidence for the cyanide pill story.
Jim Lovell stated that they'd continue to try to solve the problem until consumables ran out, then vent their remaining air out to space for a quick and painless end. I assume most of the American astronauts would have felt the same way.
Andrew Chaikin, interviewing Lovell about Apollo 13:
Surprisingly, Lovell never felt as if he were staring death in the face.
"I think that as long as we had an option, it never really came up," Lovell explained. "If there was a chance to get home, you work on the plus side; you don't work on the minus side."
"We never would've thought about it [death] until all hope was lost," Lovell told me. "And then our idea was, if all hope was lost, if we went by the Earth -- say we missed the Earth. And we were on an orbit about the sun, if we had exceeded the escape velocity.... My idea was to hold off, you know, as long as we had options, as long as we could stand it, send back data.... We probably would have been farther out than anybody. And then, you know, then we would decide, you know, what to do.
"People often say, 'Did you [carry] a suicide pill?' or something like that," said Lovell. "You didn't [need] those. All you had to do was crank open the little valve to the hatch, there...
"Maybe we would have all committed suicide by opening up the vent valve," said Lovell. "And that would have been the end of the deal."
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Finally found a good one from Lovell.
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– Russell Borogove
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Source for the suicide statement?
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– Organic Marble
6 hours ago
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Finally found a good one from Lovell.
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– Russell Borogove
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Source for the suicide statement?
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– Organic Marble
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Source for the suicide statement?
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– Organic Marble
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Finally found a good one from Lovell.
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– Russell Borogove
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Finally found a good one from Lovell.
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– Russell Borogove
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