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A square inside an equilateral triangle
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Given an equilateral triangle and a point $D$ on one of its sides, I need to construct a square $DEFG$ with the vertices $E, F$ lying on the other two sides of the triangle and $G$ somewhere inside it (see picture).
I know if $D$ is the midpoint of the respective side, the problem is easy, but how about the general case? Are there any solutions at all? Actually, my intuition says there should not be if $D$ is not quite close to the middle.
Furthermore, I have tried using analytic geometry but it quickly became messed up....so I wonder also if we can construct such a square with compass and ruler only.
Thanks in advance.
geometry euclidean-geometry analytic-geometry triangles
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Given an equilateral triangle and a point $D$ on one of its sides, I need to construct a square $DEFG$ with the vertices $E, F$ lying on the other two sides of the triangle and $G$ somewhere inside it (see picture).
I know if $D$ is the midpoint of the respective side, the problem is easy, but how about the general case? Are there any solutions at all? Actually, my intuition says there should not be if $D$ is not quite close to the middle.
Furthermore, I have tried using analytic geometry but it quickly became messed up....so I wonder also if we can construct such a square with compass and ruler only.
Thanks in advance.
geometry euclidean-geometry analytic-geometry triangles
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When you are asking for the solution, are you looking for the coordinates of the vertices of the square? Or perhaps the side length/area? And could you share your easy solution for when D is in the middle, as I am not seeing an easy way to find the square without lots of calculation. In fact, I think there is no solution for D being the midpoint.
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Given an equilateral triangle and a point $D$ on one of its sides, I need to construct a square $DEFG$ with the vertices $E, F$ lying on the other two sides of the triangle and $G$ somewhere inside it (see picture).
I know if $D$ is the midpoint of the respective side, the problem is easy, but how about the general case? Are there any solutions at all? Actually, my intuition says there should not be if $D$ is not quite close to the middle.
Furthermore, I have tried using analytic geometry but it quickly became messed up....so I wonder also if we can construct such a square with compass and ruler only.
Thanks in advance.
geometry euclidean-geometry analytic-geometry triangles
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Given an equilateral triangle and a point $D$ on one of its sides, I need to construct a square $DEFG$ with the vertices $E, F$ lying on the other two sides of the triangle and $G$ somewhere inside it (see picture).
I know if $D$ is the midpoint of the respective side, the problem is easy, but how about the general case? Are there any solutions at all? Actually, my intuition says there should not be if $D$ is not quite close to the middle.
Furthermore, I have tried using analytic geometry but it quickly became messed up....so I wonder also if we can construct such a square with compass and ruler only.
Thanks in advance.
geometry euclidean-geometry analytic-geometry triangles
geometry euclidean-geometry analytic-geometry triangles
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When you are asking for the solution, are you looking for the coordinates of the vertices of the square? Or perhaps the side length/area? And could you share your easy solution for when D is in the middle, as I am not seeing an easy way to find the square without lots of calculation. In fact, I think there is no solution for D being the midpoint.
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When you are asking for the solution, are you looking for the coordinates of the vertices of the square? Or perhaps the side length/area? And could you share your easy solution for when D is in the middle, as I am not seeing an easy way to find the square without lots of calculation. In fact, I think there is no solution for D being the midpoint.
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When you are asking for the solution, are you looking for the coordinates of the vertices of the square? Or perhaps the side length/area? And could you share your easy solution for when D is in the middle, as I am not seeing an easy way to find the square without lots of calculation. In fact, I think there is no solution for D being the midpoint.
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When you are asking for the solution, are you looking for the coordinates of the vertices of the square? Or perhaps the side length/area? And could you share your easy solution for when D is in the middle, as I am not seeing an easy way to find the square without lots of calculation. In fact, I think there is no solution for D being the midpoint.
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As $DF=DEsqrt 2$ and the angle $angle EDF=45^circ,$ the point $F$ is obtained from $E$ through the rotation composed with the homothety (common center $D$, angle and ratio as above).
Construct in this transformation the image of the side that should contain $E.$ Its intersection (if it exists) with the side that doesn't contain $D$ is $F.$
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Suppose triangle $ABC$ is equilateral.
Using coordinates, and then solving algebraically, we get the following result:
If $E$ is on side $CA$, strictly between $C$ and $A$, there is at most one square $DEFG$ such that
$D$ is on side $BC$, strictly between $B$ and $C$.$\[4pt]$
$F$ is on side $AB$, strictly between $A$ and $B$.$\[4pt]$
$G$ is in the interior of triangle $ABC$.
and such a square exists if and only if
$$2sqrt3-3 < fracCA < 4-2sqrt3qquad(mathbf*)$$
Moreover, if $(mathbf*)$ is satisfied, then letting
$$
w=fracCA
qquadqquad;;;;;,
$$
the points $D,F,G$ are uniqely determined by
beginalign*
frac&=-1+w(sqrt3+1)\[4pt]
fracAF&=(1-sqrt3)+w(1+sqrt3)\[4pt]
endalign*
and where $G$ is the reflection of $E$ over the line $DF$.
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Let
the vertex of the triangle between $D$ and $E$ be $A$
and
the vertex of the triangle between $E$ and $F$ be $C$
Let the length of the side of the triangle be $a$
length of the side of the square be $u$
$angle ADE = theta$ (therefore, $angle EFC = frac5 pi6 - theta$)
length of $AE$ be $x$, therefore length of $CE$ is $a-x$
Then consider the triangles $ ADE$ and $CEF$ using Sine rule:
$displaystyle fracusin fracpi3 = fracxsin theta = fraca-xsin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right) = fracasin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
Hence
$displaystyle u = fraca sin fracpi3sin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
$displaystyle x = fraca sin thetasin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
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As $DF=DEsqrt 2$ and the angle $angle EDF=45^circ,$ the point $F$ is obtained from $E$ through the rotation composed with the homothety (common center $D$, angle and ratio as above).
Construct in this transformation the image of the side that should contain $E.$ Its intersection (if it exists) with the side that doesn't contain $D$ is $F.$
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$begingroup$
As $DF=DEsqrt 2$ and the angle $angle EDF=45^circ,$ the point $F$ is obtained from $E$ through the rotation composed with the homothety (common center $D$, angle and ratio as above).
Construct in this transformation the image of the side that should contain $E.$ Its intersection (if it exists) with the side that doesn't contain $D$ is $F.$
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$begingroup$
As $DF=DEsqrt 2$ and the angle $angle EDF=45^circ,$ the point $F$ is obtained from $E$ through the rotation composed with the homothety (common center $D$, angle and ratio as above).
Construct in this transformation the image of the side that should contain $E.$ Its intersection (if it exists) with the side that doesn't contain $D$ is $F.$
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As $DF=DEsqrt 2$ and the angle $angle EDF=45^circ,$ the point $F$ is obtained from $E$ through the rotation composed with the homothety (common center $D$, angle and ratio as above).
Construct in this transformation the image of the side that should contain $E.$ Its intersection (if it exists) with the side that doesn't contain $D$ is $F.$
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$;;;$
Suppose triangle $ABC$ is equilateral.
Using coordinates, and then solving algebraically, we get the following result:
If $E$ is on side $CA$, strictly between $C$ and $A$, there is at most one square $DEFG$ such that
$D$ is on side $BC$, strictly between $B$ and $C$.$\[4pt]$
$F$ is on side $AB$, strictly between $A$ and $B$.$\[4pt]$
$G$ is in the interior of triangle $ABC$.
and such a square exists if and only if
$$2sqrt3-3 < fracCA < 4-2sqrt3qquad(mathbf*)$$
Moreover, if $(mathbf*)$ is satisfied, then letting
$$
w=fracCA
qquadqquad;;;;;,
$$
the points $D,F,G$ are uniqely determined by
beginalign*
frac&=-1+w(sqrt3+1)\[4pt]
fracAF&=(1-sqrt3)+w(1+sqrt3)\[4pt]
endalign*
and where $G$ is the reflection of $E$ over the line $DF$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
$;;;$
Suppose triangle $ABC$ is equilateral.
Using coordinates, and then solving algebraically, we get the following result:
If $E$ is on side $CA$, strictly between $C$ and $A$, there is at most one square $DEFG$ such that
$D$ is on side $BC$, strictly between $B$ and $C$.$\[4pt]$
$F$ is on side $AB$, strictly between $A$ and $B$.$\[4pt]$
$G$ is in the interior of triangle $ABC$.
and such a square exists if and only if
$$2sqrt3-3 < fracCA < 4-2sqrt3qquad(mathbf*)$$
Moreover, if $(mathbf*)$ is satisfied, then letting
$$
w=fracCA
qquadqquad;;;;;,
$$
the points $D,F,G$ are uniqely determined by
beginalign*
frac&=-1+w(sqrt3+1)\[4pt]
fracAF&=(1-sqrt3)+w(1+sqrt3)\[4pt]
endalign*
and where $G$ is the reflection of $E$ over the line $DF$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
$;;;$
Suppose triangle $ABC$ is equilateral.
Using coordinates, and then solving algebraically, we get the following result:
If $E$ is on side $CA$, strictly between $C$ and $A$, there is at most one square $DEFG$ such that
$D$ is on side $BC$, strictly between $B$ and $C$.$\[4pt]$
$F$ is on side $AB$, strictly between $A$ and $B$.$\[4pt]$
$G$ is in the interior of triangle $ABC$.
and such a square exists if and only if
$$2sqrt3-3 < fracCA < 4-2sqrt3qquad(mathbf*)$$
Moreover, if $(mathbf*)$ is satisfied, then letting
$$
w=fracCA
qquadqquad;;;;;,
$$
the points $D,F,G$ are uniqely determined by
beginalign*
frac&=-1+w(sqrt3+1)\[4pt]
fracAF&=(1-sqrt3)+w(1+sqrt3)\[4pt]
endalign*
and where $G$ is the reflection of $E$ over the line $DF$.
$endgroup$
$;;;$
Suppose triangle $ABC$ is equilateral.
Using coordinates, and then solving algebraically, we get the following result:
If $E$ is on side $CA$, strictly between $C$ and $A$, there is at most one square $DEFG$ such that
$D$ is on side $BC$, strictly between $B$ and $C$.$\[4pt]$
$F$ is on side $AB$, strictly between $A$ and $B$.$\[4pt]$
$G$ is in the interior of triangle $ABC$.
and such a square exists if and only if
$$2sqrt3-3 < fracCA < 4-2sqrt3qquad(mathbf*)$$
Moreover, if $(mathbf*)$ is satisfied, then letting
$$
w=fracCA
qquadqquad;;;;;,
$$
the points $D,F,G$ are uniqely determined by
beginalign*
frac&=-1+w(sqrt3+1)\[4pt]
fracAF&=(1-sqrt3)+w(1+sqrt3)\[4pt]
endalign*
and where $G$ is the reflection of $E$ over the line $DF$.
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Let
the vertex of the triangle between $D$ and $E$ be $A$
and
the vertex of the triangle between $E$ and $F$ be $C$
Let the length of the side of the triangle be $a$
length of the side of the square be $u$
$angle ADE = theta$ (therefore, $angle EFC = frac5 pi6 - theta$)
length of $AE$ be $x$, therefore length of $CE$ is $a-x$
Then consider the triangles $ ADE$ and $CEF$ using Sine rule:
$displaystyle fracusin fracpi3 = fracxsin theta = fraca-xsin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right) = fracasin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
Hence
$displaystyle u = fraca sin fracpi3sin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
$displaystyle x = fraca sin thetasin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
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Let
the vertex of the triangle between $D$ and $E$ be $A$
and
the vertex of the triangle between $E$ and $F$ be $C$
Let the length of the side of the triangle be $a$
length of the side of the square be $u$
$angle ADE = theta$ (therefore, $angle EFC = frac5 pi6 - theta$)
length of $AE$ be $x$, therefore length of $CE$ is $a-x$
Then consider the triangles $ ADE$ and $CEF$ using Sine rule:
$displaystyle fracusin fracpi3 = fracxsin theta = fraca-xsin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right) = fracasin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
Hence
$displaystyle u = fraca sin fracpi3sin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
$displaystyle x = fraca sin thetasin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let
the vertex of the triangle between $D$ and $E$ be $A$
and
the vertex of the triangle between $E$ and $F$ be $C$
Let the length of the side of the triangle be $a$
length of the side of the square be $u$
$angle ADE = theta$ (therefore, $angle EFC = frac5 pi6 - theta$)
length of $AE$ be $x$, therefore length of $CE$ is $a-x$
Then consider the triangles $ ADE$ and $CEF$ using Sine rule:
$displaystyle fracusin fracpi3 = fracxsin theta = fraca-xsin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right) = fracasin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
Hence
$displaystyle u = fraca sin fracpi3sin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
$displaystyle x = fraca sin thetasin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
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Let
the vertex of the triangle between $D$ and $E$ be $A$
and
the vertex of the triangle between $E$ and $F$ be $C$
Let the length of the side of the triangle be $a$
length of the side of the square be $u$
$angle ADE = theta$ (therefore, $angle EFC = frac5 pi6 - theta$)
length of $AE$ be $x$, therefore length of $CE$ is $a-x$
Then consider the triangles $ ADE$ and $CEF$ using Sine rule:
$displaystyle fracusin fracpi3 = fracxsin theta = fraca-xsin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right) = fracasin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
Hence
$displaystyle u = fraca sin fracpi3sin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
$displaystyle x = fraca sin thetasin theta + sin left( frac5 pi6 - theta right)$
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When you are asking for the solution, are you looking for the coordinates of the vertices of the square? Or perhaps the side length/area? And could you share your easy solution for when D is in the middle, as I am not seeing an easy way to find the square without lots of calculation. In fact, I think there is no solution for D being the midpoint.
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