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The Maltese Falcon


What factors contributed to the rise of national monarchies in the high middle ages?Was there any new military innovation during the Siege of Malta?Was there a Spanish plan to retake Malta, had the siege of 1565 been succesful?Why didn't the Ottomans besiege Malta after 1565?Why does the Ħaġar Qim seem to have drilled holes / pitted dots on its stoneworks?Why were the first Universities created?Where is or was the place called Apapis?What are the dimensions of the house in this picture?Is (or was) there a version of the Maltese Cross with the right arrowhead missing? Does it have a name?How did Jean Parisot de Valette, 49th Grand Master of the Order of Malta, die?













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Am wondering if any of this is true (Hammett, The Maltese Falcon, p. 150).




"The
archives of the Order from the twelfth century on are still at Malta.
They are not intact, but what is there holds no less than three"—he
held up three fingers—"referenees that can't be to anything else but
this jeweled falcon. In J. Delaville Le Roulx's Les Archives de
l'Ordre de Saint-Jean
there is a reference to it—oblique to be sure,
but a reference still. And the unpublished—because unfinished at the
time of his death—supplement to Paoli's Dell' origine ed instituto del
sacro militar ordine
has a clear and unmistakable statement of the
facts I am telling you."



"All right," Spade said.



"All right, sir.
Grand Master Villiers de l'Isle d'Adam had this foothigh jeweled bird
made by Turkish slaves in the castle of St. Angelo and sent it to
Charles, who was in Spain. He sent it in a galley commanded by a
French knight named Cormier or Corvere, a member of the Order." His
voice dropped to a whisper again. "It never reached Spain." He smiled
with compressed lips and asked: "You know of Barbarossa, Redbeard,
Khair-ed-Din? No? A famous admiral of buccaneers sailing out of
Algiers then. Well, sir, he took the Knights' galley and he took the
bird. The bird went to Algiers. That's a fact. That's a fact that the
French historian Pierre Dan put in one of his letters from Algiers.




Googling just turns up page after page about movie props.



Clarification: this question asks specifically the details about the falcon, starting with bare existance.










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  • FWIW there isn't a shred of a mention of this story on Philippe Villers de l'Isle-Adam's wiki page.

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Am wondering if any of this is true (Hammett, The Maltese Falcon, p. 150).




"The
archives of the Order from the twelfth century on are still at Malta.
They are not intact, but what is there holds no less than three"—he
held up three fingers—"referenees that can't be to anything else but
this jeweled falcon. In J. Delaville Le Roulx's Les Archives de
l'Ordre de Saint-Jean
there is a reference to it—oblique to be sure,
but a reference still. And the unpublished—because unfinished at the
time of his death—supplement to Paoli's Dell' origine ed instituto del
sacro militar ordine
has a clear and unmistakable statement of the
facts I am telling you."



"All right," Spade said.



"All right, sir.
Grand Master Villiers de l'Isle d'Adam had this foothigh jeweled bird
made by Turkish slaves in the castle of St. Angelo and sent it to
Charles, who was in Spain. He sent it in a galley commanded by a
French knight named Cormier or Corvere, a member of the Order." His
voice dropped to a whisper again. "It never reached Spain." He smiled
with compressed lips and asked: "You know of Barbarossa, Redbeard,
Khair-ed-Din? No? A famous admiral of buccaneers sailing out of
Algiers then. Well, sir, he took the Knights' galley and he took the
bird. The bird went to Algiers. That's a fact. That's a fact that the
French historian Pierre Dan put in one of his letters from Algiers.




Googling just turns up page after page about movie props.



Clarification: this question asks specifically the details about the falcon, starting with bare existance.










share|improve this question



















  • 1





    We don't signal edits, so I made a small clarification there. Other comment removed.

    – KorvinStarmast
    10 hours ago











  • FWIW there isn't a shred of a mention of this story on Philippe Villers de l'Isle-Adam's wiki page.

    – Denis de Bernardy
    10 hours ago













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Am wondering if any of this is true (Hammett, The Maltese Falcon, p. 150).




"The
archives of the Order from the twelfth century on are still at Malta.
They are not intact, but what is there holds no less than three"—he
held up three fingers—"referenees that can't be to anything else but
this jeweled falcon. In J. Delaville Le Roulx's Les Archives de
l'Ordre de Saint-Jean
there is a reference to it—oblique to be sure,
but a reference still. And the unpublished—because unfinished at the
time of his death—supplement to Paoli's Dell' origine ed instituto del
sacro militar ordine
has a clear and unmistakable statement of the
facts I am telling you."



"All right," Spade said.



"All right, sir.
Grand Master Villiers de l'Isle d'Adam had this foothigh jeweled bird
made by Turkish slaves in the castle of St. Angelo and sent it to
Charles, who was in Spain. He sent it in a galley commanded by a
French knight named Cormier or Corvere, a member of the Order." His
voice dropped to a whisper again. "It never reached Spain." He smiled
with compressed lips and asked: "You know of Barbarossa, Redbeard,
Khair-ed-Din? No? A famous admiral of buccaneers sailing out of
Algiers then. Well, sir, he took the Knights' galley and he took the
bird. The bird went to Algiers. That's a fact. That's a fact that the
French historian Pierre Dan put in one of his letters from Algiers.




Googling just turns up page after page about movie props.



Clarification: this question asks specifically the details about the falcon, starting with bare existance.










share|improve this question
















Am wondering if any of this is true (Hammett, The Maltese Falcon, p. 150).




"The
archives of the Order from the twelfth century on are still at Malta.
They are not intact, but what is there holds no less than three"—he
held up three fingers—"referenees that can't be to anything else but
this jeweled falcon. In J. Delaville Le Roulx's Les Archives de
l'Ordre de Saint-Jean
there is a reference to it—oblique to be sure,
but a reference still. And the unpublished—because unfinished at the
time of his death—supplement to Paoli's Dell' origine ed instituto del
sacro militar ordine
has a clear and unmistakable statement of the
facts I am telling you."



"All right," Spade said.



"All right, sir.
Grand Master Villiers de l'Isle d'Adam had this foothigh jeweled bird
made by Turkish slaves in the castle of St. Angelo and sent it to
Charles, who was in Spain. He sent it in a galley commanded by a
French knight named Cormier or Corvere, a member of the Order." His
voice dropped to a whisper again. "It never reached Spain." He smiled
with compressed lips and asked: "You know of Barbarossa, Redbeard,
Khair-ed-Din? No? A famous admiral of buccaneers sailing out of
Algiers then. Well, sir, he took the Knights' galley and he took the
bird. The bird went to Algiers. That's a fact. That's a fact that the
French historian Pierre Dan put in one of his letters from Algiers.




Googling just turns up page after page about movie props.



Clarification: this question asks specifically the details about the falcon, starting with bare existance.







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    – KorvinStarmast
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  • FWIW there isn't a shred of a mention of this story on Philippe Villers de l'Isle-Adam's wiki page.

    – Denis de Bernardy
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    We don't signal edits, so I made a small clarification there. Other comment removed.

    – KorvinStarmast
    10 hours ago











  • FWIW there isn't a shred of a mention of this story on Philippe Villers de l'Isle-Adam's wiki page.

    – Denis de Bernardy
    10 hours ago







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We don't signal edits, so I made a small clarification there. Other comment removed.

– KorvinStarmast
10 hours ago





We don't signal edits, so I made a small clarification there. Other comment removed.

– KorvinStarmast
10 hours ago













FWIW there isn't a shred of a mention of this story on Philippe Villers de l'Isle-Adam's wiki page.

– Denis de Bernardy
10 hours ago





FWIW there isn't a shred of a mention of this story on Philippe Villers de l'Isle-Adam's wiki page.

– Denis de Bernardy
10 hours ago










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While the "Maltese Falcon" itself is fictional the object might have been inspired by a real one - albeit one without the exciting Knights Templar and Pirates(!) backstory. The "Kniphausen Hawk" is a bejeweled drinking vessel dating to at least 1697 and is currently owned by the Duke of Devonshire, being ~15 inches high and literally covered in gemstones it would certainly fit the bill (pun intended!) but it has nothing to do with Malta or Algiers and I've not been able to find any evidence to show that Hammet was aware of the Kniphausen Hawk.






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    Actually, this wiki page says "The 'Maltese Falcon' itself is said to have been based on the 'Kniphausen Hawk'."

    – Tomas By
    7 hours ago







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    And it's the Hospitallers not the Templars.

    – Tomas By
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These are facts, historical facts, not schoolbook history, not Mr. Wells's history, but history nevertheless. ...




I believe what this is saying is that the following information isn't written down in any history book anywhere, but (in Hammet's fictional universe) did actually happen.



Its meant to both lay out some background information to the reader, and to clue them in that this is stuff the author made up to make his story interesting, and help drive its plot.



As far as real world information goes, you should translate the quoted sentence above as "These are fictional facts my author made up, that are only valid within the confines of this book."






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While the "Maltese Falcon" itself is fictional the object might have been inspired by a real one - albeit one without the exciting Knights Templar and Pirates(!) backstory. The "Kniphausen Hawk" is a bejeweled drinking vessel dating to at least 1697 and is currently owned by the Duke of Devonshire, being ~15 inches high and literally covered in gemstones it would certainly fit the bill (pun intended!) but it has nothing to do with Malta or Algiers and I've not been able to find any evidence to show that Hammet was aware of the Kniphausen Hawk.






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    Actually, this wiki page says "The 'Maltese Falcon' itself is said to have been based on the 'Kniphausen Hawk'."

    – Tomas By
    7 hours ago







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    And it's the Hospitallers not the Templars.

    – Tomas By
    7 hours ago
















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While the "Maltese Falcon" itself is fictional the object might have been inspired by a real one - albeit one without the exciting Knights Templar and Pirates(!) backstory. The "Kniphausen Hawk" is a bejeweled drinking vessel dating to at least 1697 and is currently owned by the Duke of Devonshire, being ~15 inches high and literally covered in gemstones it would certainly fit the bill (pun intended!) but it has nothing to do with Malta or Algiers and I've not been able to find any evidence to show that Hammet was aware of the Kniphausen Hawk.






share|improve this answer




















  • 1





    Actually, this wiki page says "The 'Maltese Falcon' itself is said to have been based on the 'Kniphausen Hawk'."

    – Tomas By
    7 hours ago







  • 1





    And it's the Hospitallers not the Templars.

    – Tomas By
    7 hours ago














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While the "Maltese Falcon" itself is fictional the object might have been inspired by a real one - albeit one without the exciting Knights Templar and Pirates(!) backstory. The "Kniphausen Hawk" is a bejeweled drinking vessel dating to at least 1697 and is currently owned by the Duke of Devonshire, being ~15 inches high and literally covered in gemstones it would certainly fit the bill (pun intended!) but it has nothing to do with Malta or Algiers and I've not been able to find any evidence to show that Hammet was aware of the Kniphausen Hawk.






share|improve this answer















While the "Maltese Falcon" itself is fictional the object might have been inspired by a real one - albeit one without the exciting Knights Templar and Pirates(!) backstory. The "Kniphausen Hawk" is a bejeweled drinking vessel dating to at least 1697 and is currently owned by the Duke of Devonshire, being ~15 inches high and literally covered in gemstones it would certainly fit the bill (pun intended!) but it has nothing to do with Malta or Algiers and I've not been able to find any evidence to show that Hammet was aware of the Kniphausen Hawk.







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    Actually, this wiki page says "The 'Maltese Falcon' itself is said to have been based on the 'Kniphausen Hawk'."

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    And it's the Hospitallers not the Templars.

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    Actually, this wiki page says "The 'Maltese Falcon' itself is said to have been based on the 'Kniphausen Hawk'."

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    And it's the Hospitallers not the Templars.

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Actually, this wiki page says "The 'Maltese Falcon' itself is said to have been based on the 'Kniphausen Hawk'."

– Tomas By
7 hours ago






Actually, this wiki page says "The 'Maltese Falcon' itself is said to have been based on the 'Kniphausen Hawk'."

– Tomas By
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And it's the Hospitallers not the Templars.

– Tomas By
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And it's the Hospitallers not the Templars.

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7 hours ago












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These are facts, historical facts, not schoolbook history, not Mr. Wells's history, but history nevertheless. ...




I believe what this is saying is that the following information isn't written down in any history book anywhere, but (in Hammet's fictional universe) did actually happen.



Its meant to both lay out some background information to the reader, and to clue them in that this is stuff the author made up to make his story interesting, and help drive its plot.



As far as real world information goes, you should translate the quoted sentence above as "These are fictional facts my author made up, that are only valid within the confines of this book."






share|improve this answer























  • Yeah, it's not facts, that stuff is made out of dreams.

    – Ne Mo
    3 hours ago
















10















These are facts, historical facts, not schoolbook history, not Mr. Wells's history, but history nevertheless. ...




I believe what this is saying is that the following information isn't written down in any history book anywhere, but (in Hammet's fictional universe) did actually happen.



Its meant to both lay out some background information to the reader, and to clue them in that this is stuff the author made up to make his story interesting, and help drive its plot.



As far as real world information goes, you should translate the quoted sentence above as "These are fictional facts my author made up, that are only valid within the confines of this book."






share|improve this answer























  • Yeah, it's not facts, that stuff is made out of dreams.

    – Ne Mo
    3 hours ago














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10








10








These are facts, historical facts, not schoolbook history, not Mr. Wells's history, but history nevertheless. ...




I believe what this is saying is that the following information isn't written down in any history book anywhere, but (in Hammet's fictional universe) did actually happen.



Its meant to both lay out some background information to the reader, and to clue them in that this is stuff the author made up to make his story interesting, and help drive its plot.



As far as real world information goes, you should translate the quoted sentence above as "These are fictional facts my author made up, that are only valid within the confines of this book."






share|improve this answer














These are facts, historical facts, not schoolbook history, not Mr. Wells's history, but history nevertheless. ...




I believe what this is saying is that the following information isn't written down in any history book anywhere, but (in Hammet's fictional universe) did actually happen.



Its meant to both lay out some background information to the reader, and to clue them in that this is stuff the author made up to make his story interesting, and help drive its plot.



As far as real world information goes, you should translate the quoted sentence above as "These are fictional facts my author made up, that are only valid within the confines of this book."







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