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Orbital mechanics: Jump from ISS, where will I meet again?


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If an astronaut would stand on the surface of the ISS, and he or she will make a jump directed perfectly towards the earth, what will their orbit be, and when will they meet again with the ISS? After one round (90 Minutes) or half a round (45 Minutes) around the earth.



Note: I read somewhere (do not remember where) that two object, separated at a point, will meet again while in orbit (neglecting any atmospherical drag).










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    Tristan's answer is generally correct; in practice at JSC, we used/wrote software tools that integrated the equations of motion for whatever object to determine if it would contact or re-contact the ISS. Analyses would consider multiple orbits to guard against something like the drag of the ISS eventually overcoming a larger initial impulse for the object. Two of the tools I remember: ADIOS (Adverse Departure Iterative Orbit Simulation) and Vireo ("It's a bird, not an acronym"). There were probably many more.
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This is a hypothetical question, and I hope it is on-topic here.



If an astronaut would stand on the surface of the ISS, and he or she will make a jump directed perfectly towards the earth, what will their orbit be, and when will they meet again with the ISS? After one round (90 Minutes) or half a round (45 Minutes) around the earth.



Note: I read somewhere (do not remember where) that two object, separated at a point, will meet again while in orbit (neglecting any atmospherical drag).










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    Tristan's answer is generally correct; in practice at JSC, we used/wrote software tools that integrated the equations of motion for whatever object to determine if it would contact or re-contact the ISS. Analyses would consider multiple orbits to guard against something like the drag of the ISS eventually overcoming a larger initial impulse for the object. Two of the tools I remember: ADIOS (Adverse Departure Iterative Orbit Simulation) and Vireo ("It's a bird, not an acronym"). There were probably many more.
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This is a hypothetical question, and I hope it is on-topic here.



If an astronaut would stand on the surface of the ISS, and he or she will make a jump directed perfectly towards the earth, what will their orbit be, and when will they meet again with the ISS? After one round (90 Minutes) or half a round (45 Minutes) around the earth.



Note: I read somewhere (do not remember where) that two object, separated at a point, will meet again while in orbit (neglecting any atmospherical drag).










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This is a hypothetical question, and I hope it is on-topic here.



If an astronaut would stand on the surface of the ISS, and he or she will make a jump directed perfectly towards the earth, what will their orbit be, and when will they meet again with the ISS? After one round (90 Minutes) or half a round (45 Minutes) around the earth.



Note: I read somewhere (do not remember where) that two object, separated at a point, will meet again while in orbit (neglecting any atmospherical drag).







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    Tristan's answer is generally correct; in practice at JSC, we used/wrote software tools that integrated the equations of motion for whatever object to determine if it would contact or re-contact the ISS. Analyses would consider multiple orbits to guard against something like the drag of the ISS eventually overcoming a larger initial impulse for the object. Two of the tools I remember: ADIOS (Adverse Departure Iterative Orbit Simulation) and Vireo ("It's a bird, not an acronym"). There were probably many more.
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Tristan's answer is generally correct; in practice at JSC, we used/wrote software tools that integrated the equations of motion for whatever object to determine if it would contact or re-contact the ISS. Analyses would consider multiple orbits to guard against something like the drag of the ISS eventually overcoming a larger initial impulse for the object. Two of the tools I remember: ADIOS (Adverse Departure Iterative Orbit Simulation) and Vireo ("It's a bird, not an acronym"). There were probably many more.
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Tristan's answer is generally correct; in practice at JSC, we used/wrote software tools that integrated the equations of motion for whatever object to determine if it would contact or re-contact the ISS. Analyses would consider multiple orbits to guard against something like the drag of the ISS eventually overcoming a larger initial impulse for the object. Two of the tools I remember: ADIOS (Adverse Departure Iterative Orbit Simulation) and Vireo ("It's a bird, not an acronym"). There were probably many more.
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If your jump is perfectly nadir pointing, and all perturbing forces are neglected so we can consider both your orbit and the ISS orbit as perfect two-body orbits, you will meet again after one full orbit, as a low-velocity impulse that is perfectly radial does not affect the orbital period.



From your perspective, relative to the ISS, you will move downward initially, then you will drift forward, then come back up, then drift backward, then eventually settle back down where you jumped from.



If I have time later, I can see if I can graph something up.






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    If your jump is perfectly nadir pointing, and all perturbing forces are neglected so we can consider both your orbit and the ISS orbit as perfect two-body orbits, you will meet again after one full orbit, as a low-velocity impulse that is perfectly radial does not affect the orbital period.



    From your perspective, relative to the ISS, you will move downward initially, then you will drift forward, then come back up, then drift backward, then eventually settle back down where you jumped from.



    If I have time later, I can see if I can graph something up.






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      If your jump is perfectly nadir pointing, and all perturbing forces are neglected so we can consider both your orbit and the ISS orbit as perfect two-body orbits, you will meet again after one full orbit, as a low-velocity impulse that is perfectly radial does not affect the orbital period.



      From your perspective, relative to the ISS, you will move downward initially, then you will drift forward, then come back up, then drift backward, then eventually settle back down where you jumped from.



      If I have time later, I can see if I can graph something up.






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        If your jump is perfectly nadir pointing, and all perturbing forces are neglected so we can consider both your orbit and the ISS orbit as perfect two-body orbits, you will meet again after one full orbit, as a low-velocity impulse that is perfectly radial does not affect the orbital period.



        From your perspective, relative to the ISS, you will move downward initially, then you will drift forward, then come back up, then drift backward, then eventually settle back down where you jumped from.



        If I have time later, I can see if I can graph something up.






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        If your jump is perfectly nadir pointing, and all perturbing forces are neglected so we can consider both your orbit and the ISS orbit as perfect two-body orbits, you will meet again after one full orbit, as a low-velocity impulse that is perfectly radial does not affect the orbital period.



        From your perspective, relative to the ISS, you will move downward initially, then you will drift forward, then come back up, then drift backward, then eventually settle back down where you jumped from.



        If I have time later, I can see if I can graph something up.







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