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Can an NPC use the teleport spell to affect an object they can see with the scry spell?


Is it possible to attack enemies through a scrying sensor?What counts as a target for a spell?Is there any way to see through the Darkness spell without removing it?Teleportation: What familiarity does the caster have with the destination if they can see it?Can a character shadowstep, dimension door, or teleport away from sovereign glue?Can the first effect of Plane Shift work remotely with the Distant Spell metamagic option?Is there a spell that can teleport to an unfamiliar but known location?What is the proper parsing for targets of a Teleport spell?Can a creature with truesight see the invisible sensor created by the Clairvoyance spell?What sorts of objects can you target with the Enlarge/Reduce spell?






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Teleport shows that it has a range of 10ft and uses the following language:




This spell instantly transports you and up to eight willing creatures
of your choice that you can see within range, or a single object that
you can see within range, to a destination you select. If you target
an object, it must be able to fit entirely inside a 10-foot cube, and
it can’t be held or carried by an unwilling creature.




I want to have a non-present NPC who is using the scry spell to spy on the Players location to use the Teleport spell on an object in the room the Players are in. Is this possible as long as the object is within 10ft of the sensor created by the scry spell or is it not possible?



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Teleport shows that it has a range of 10ft and uses the following language:




This spell instantly transports you and up to eight willing creatures
of your choice that you can see within range, or a single object that
you can see within range, to a destination you select. If you target
an object, it must be able to fit entirely inside a 10-foot cube, and
it can’t be held or carried by an unwilling creature.




I want to have a non-present NPC who is using the scry spell to spy on the Players location to use the Teleport spell on an object in the room the Players are in. Is this possible as long as the object is within 10ft of the sensor created by the scry spell or is it not possible?



TLDR; can I cast the teleport spell through the sensor created with the scry spell, using the sensor’s location as the base for target range?










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    I understand it's probably scary to have people watching you from far away but did you perhaps mean the Scry spell? :)
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Teleport shows that it has a range of 10ft and uses the following language:




This spell instantly transports you and up to eight willing creatures
of your choice that you can see within range, or a single object that
you can see within range, to a destination you select. If you target
an object, it must be able to fit entirely inside a 10-foot cube, and
it can’t be held or carried by an unwilling creature.




I want to have a non-present NPC who is using the scry spell to spy on the Players location to use the Teleport spell on an object in the room the Players are in. Is this possible as long as the object is within 10ft of the sensor created by the scry spell or is it not possible?



TLDR; can I cast the teleport spell through the sensor created with the scry spell, using the sensor’s location as the base for target range?










share|improve this question











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Teleport shows that it has a range of 10ft and uses the following language:




This spell instantly transports you and up to eight willing creatures
of your choice that you can see within range, or a single object that
you can see within range, to a destination you select. If you target
an object, it must be able to fit entirely inside a 10-foot cube, and
it can’t be held or carried by an unwilling creature.




I want to have a non-present NPC who is using the scry spell to spy on the Players location to use the Teleport spell on an object in the room the Players are in. Is this possible as long as the object is within 10ft of the sensor created by the scry spell or is it not possible?



TLDR; can I cast the teleport spell through the sensor created with the scry spell, using the sensor’s location as the base for target range?







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    I understand it's probably scary to have people watching you from far away but did you perhaps mean the Scry spell? :)
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    – Sdjz
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  • 2




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    Helpful: "What counts as a target for a spell?". Related: "Is it possible to attack enemies through a scrying sensor?".
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    $begingroup$
    I understand it's probably scary to have people watching you from far away but did you perhaps mean the Scry spell? :)
    $endgroup$
    – Sdjz
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    Helpful: "What counts as a target for a spell?". Related: "Is it possible to attack enemies through a scrying sensor?".
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Helpful: "What counts as a target for a spell?". Related: "Is it possible to attack enemies through a scrying sensor?".
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Scrying does not expand spell ranges



The two restrictions, that the target must be within range and that you must be able to see it are separate and both must be satisfied. "See within range" is not a requirement on the clarity with which you see them and thus does not translate to "see as if you were within range".



So you will not be able to fetch an item from a far away location like this. The problem is further compounded by the restriction that you must have a clear path to anything you target (PHB 204).



So scrying will not help in teleporting an item away, but it would help in targeting the spell if you would teleport something to the place under observation (making familiarity "very familiar").






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    Without looking up the specifics of the spells, and based on what I read here...



    I would be open to an argument that as long as the item to teleport is within 10 feet, one could use scry to get around a line of sight issue.



    For instance, if the NPC is immediately upstairs (and probably more or less directly over the object), or next door, scry could let the NPC 'see' the object and teleport it out of the room. It won't go very far! But in this situation, scry and teleport can be used together.



    And from a play perspective, it suggests the NPC is close by and the PCs can now have fun trying to run the NPC down and get the object back.






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      Scrying does not expand spell ranges



      The two restrictions, that the target must be within range and that you must be able to see it are separate and both must be satisfied. "See within range" is not a requirement on the clarity with which you see them and thus does not translate to "see as if you were within range".



      So you will not be able to fetch an item from a far away location like this. The problem is further compounded by the restriction that you must have a clear path to anything you target (PHB 204).



      So scrying will not help in teleporting an item away, but it would help in targeting the spell if you would teleport something to the place under observation (making familiarity "very familiar").






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        Scrying does not expand spell ranges



        The two restrictions, that the target must be within range and that you must be able to see it are separate and both must be satisfied. "See within range" is not a requirement on the clarity with which you see them and thus does not translate to "see as if you were within range".



        So you will not be able to fetch an item from a far away location like this. The problem is further compounded by the restriction that you must have a clear path to anything you target (PHB 204).



        So scrying will not help in teleporting an item away, but it would help in targeting the spell if you would teleport something to the place under observation (making familiarity "very familiar").






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          Scrying does not expand spell ranges



          The two restrictions, that the target must be within range and that you must be able to see it are separate and both must be satisfied. "See within range" is not a requirement on the clarity with which you see them and thus does not translate to "see as if you were within range".



          So you will not be able to fetch an item from a far away location like this. The problem is further compounded by the restriction that you must have a clear path to anything you target (PHB 204).



          So scrying will not help in teleporting an item away, but it would help in targeting the spell if you would teleport something to the place under observation (making familiarity "very familiar").






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          Scrying does not expand spell ranges



          The two restrictions, that the target must be within range and that you must be able to see it are separate and both must be satisfied. "See within range" is not a requirement on the clarity with which you see them and thus does not translate to "see as if you were within range".



          So you will not be able to fetch an item from a far away location like this. The problem is further compounded by the restriction that you must have a clear path to anything you target (PHB 204).



          So scrying will not help in teleporting an item away, but it would help in targeting the spell if you would teleport something to the place under observation (making familiarity "very familiar").







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              Without looking up the specifics of the spells, and based on what I read here...



              I would be open to an argument that as long as the item to teleport is within 10 feet, one could use scry to get around a line of sight issue.



              For instance, if the NPC is immediately upstairs (and probably more or less directly over the object), or next door, scry could let the NPC 'see' the object and teleport it out of the room. It won't go very far! But in this situation, scry and teleport can be used together.



              And from a play perspective, it suggests the NPC is close by and the PCs can now have fun trying to run the NPC down and get the object back.






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                Without looking up the specifics of the spells, and based on what I read here...



                I would be open to an argument that as long as the item to teleport is within 10 feet, one could use scry to get around a line of sight issue.



                For instance, if the NPC is immediately upstairs (and probably more or less directly over the object), or next door, scry could let the NPC 'see' the object and teleport it out of the room. It won't go very far! But in this situation, scry and teleport can be used together.



                And from a play perspective, it suggests the NPC is close by and the PCs can now have fun trying to run the NPC down and get the object back.






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                  Without looking up the specifics of the spells, and based on what I read here...



                  I would be open to an argument that as long as the item to teleport is within 10 feet, one could use scry to get around a line of sight issue.



                  For instance, if the NPC is immediately upstairs (and probably more or less directly over the object), or next door, scry could let the NPC 'see' the object and teleport it out of the room. It won't go very far! But in this situation, scry and teleport can be used together.



                  And from a play perspective, it suggests the NPC is close by and the PCs can now have fun trying to run the NPC down and get the object back.






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                  Without looking up the specifics of the spells, and based on what I read here...



                  I would be open to an argument that as long as the item to teleport is within 10 feet, one could use scry to get around a line of sight issue.



                  For instance, if the NPC is immediately upstairs (and probably more or less directly over the object), or next door, scry could let the NPC 'see' the object and teleport it out of the room. It won't go very far! But in this situation, scry and teleport can be used together.



                  And from a play perspective, it suggests the NPC is close by and the PCs can now have fun trying to run the NPC down and get the object back.







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