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is “prohibition against,” a double negative?
What constitutes a double negative?Is it gramatically a good start to say “It is definitely not unheard that people say”?Alternative for “couldn't not help”?Double Negative?Double Negative with ParallelismIs Shakespeare's Double Negative Grammatically Wrong?Is “The trick is to not try to tell yourself not to think about the bad things…” a double-negative used correctly?Is this correct: “I didn't skip gym for no reason”
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"Prohibition against stealing," was the phrase that was being used. I get what the speaker was trying to say, I'm just wondering if it is grammatically correct or if it could have been worded better.
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"Prohibition against stealing," was the phrase that was being used. I get what the speaker was trying to say, I'm just wondering if it is grammatically correct or if it could have been worded better.
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Nothing wrong with "prohibition against stealing" and certainly no double negative. "Prohibition on stealing" would also be correct and, to my ears, would sound better.
– Michael Henchard
8 hours ago
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Well, nobody is taking the hint. A double negative would be "There isn't no prohibition against stealing"
– Mari-Lou A
4 hours ago
'Support for' means 'support extended to'; the preposition is needed to connect 'support' with the thing supported (the referent of the prepositional complement). The suitable preposition with 'prohibition' are 'against' and 'on'.
– Edwin Ashworth
3 hours ago
This isn't a double negative, but also double negatives are not grammatically incorrect.
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"Prohibition against stealing," was the phrase that was being used. I get what the speaker was trying to say, I'm just wondering if it is grammatically correct or if it could have been worded better.
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"Prohibition against stealing," was the phrase that was being used. I get what the speaker was trying to say, I'm just wondering if it is grammatically correct or if it could have been worded better.
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Nothing wrong with "prohibition against stealing" and certainly no double negative. "Prohibition on stealing" would also be correct and, to my ears, would sound better.
– Michael Henchard
8 hours ago
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Well, nobody is taking the hint. A double negative would be "There isn't no prohibition against stealing"
– Mari-Lou A
4 hours ago
'Support for' means 'support extended to'; the preposition is needed to connect 'support' with the thing supported (the referent of the prepositional complement). The suitable preposition with 'prohibition' are 'against' and 'on'.
– Edwin Ashworth
3 hours ago
This isn't a double negative, but also double negatives are not grammatically incorrect.
– nnnnnn
1 hour ago
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Nothing wrong with "prohibition against stealing" and certainly no double negative. "Prohibition on stealing" would also be correct and, to my ears, would sound better.
– Michael Henchard
8 hours ago
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Well, nobody is taking the hint. A double negative would be "There isn't no prohibition against stealing"
– Mari-Lou A
4 hours ago
'Support for' means 'support extended to'; the preposition is needed to connect 'support' with the thing supported (the referent of the prepositional complement). The suitable preposition with 'prohibition' are 'against' and 'on'.
– Edwin Ashworth
3 hours ago
This isn't a double negative, but also double negatives are not grammatically incorrect.
– nnnnnn
1 hour ago
Nothing wrong with "prohibition against stealing" and certainly no double negative. "Prohibition on stealing" would also be correct and, to my ears, would sound better.
– Michael Henchard
8 hours ago
Nothing wrong with "prohibition against stealing" and certainly no double negative. "Prohibition on stealing" would also be correct and, to my ears, would sound better.
– Michael Henchard
8 hours ago
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Well, nobody is taking the hint. A double negative would be "There isn't no prohibition against stealing"
– Mari-Lou A
4 hours ago
Well, nobody is taking the hint. A double negative would be "There isn't no prohibition against stealing"
– Mari-Lou A
4 hours ago
'Support for' means 'support extended to'; the preposition is needed to connect 'support' with the thing supported (the referent of the prepositional complement). The suitable preposition with 'prohibition' are 'against' and 'on'.
– Edwin Ashworth
3 hours ago
'Support for' means 'support extended to'; the preposition is needed to connect 'support' with the thing supported (the referent of the prepositional complement). The suitable preposition with 'prohibition' are 'against' and 'on'.
– Edwin Ashworth
3 hours ago
This isn't a double negative, but also double negatives are not grammatically incorrect.
– nnnnnn
1 hour ago
This isn't a double negative, but also double negatives are not grammatically incorrect.
– nnnnnn
1 hour ago
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A double negative is a grammatical construction occurring when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence.
- wikipedia
Your example isn’t a double negative because there aren’t two forms of negation in your quote. There isn’t even one form of negation in the quote.
Syntactically, prohibition is not a negated term. To be a negated form, it would need to be something like non-prohibition.
Likewise, against isn’t a negated term. It is just a preposition to relate the word prohibition to the thing prohibited.
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well, a double logical/semantic narrative...
– Carly
6 hours ago
in-hibition could be a morphological negative
– Carly
6 hours ago
@Carly: the “in-” in “inhibit” is not actually the negative prefix, but the homophonous prepositional prefix.
– sumelic
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No, it's not a double negative. "Against" doesn't mean "not", and any negative sentence it has is applied to "stealing", not "prohibition". It is at most a negative concord. Just because a word "goes with" negative senses doesn't make it a negative. For instance, consider "There are some" versus "There are not any". When you switch from positive to negative, "some" changes to "any". That doesn't mean that "any" is a negative, or that "There are not any" is a double negative.
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You could give an example of a double negstive, so the OP can compare
– Mari-Lou A
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“Prohibition against” is not a double negative. Compare “a battle against”. Even though the preposition “against” often is used to express that something acts counter to something else, it is not a negation. As other answers mention, the word “prohibit” also does not contain any explicit negation. (“Prohibit(ion)” does have some connection to negation in that it can license a negative polarity item like “at all”: we can say “they are prohibited from driving at all” while most speakers can’t use at all in a sentence like *“they are permitted to drive at all”.)
The Google Ngram Viewer indicates that “against” is the second most common preposition found after “prohibition”. The most common is “of”; you could say “prohibition of stealing”. Other possibilities are “prohibition on” and “prohibition from”.
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A double negative? No. It's not even a single negative. Neither "prohibition" nor "against" are negatives. Examples of negatives include but are not limited to:
- no
- not
- nothing
- nobody
- nowhere
- none
A negative in grammar expressly contradicts what the negative is modifying so as to indicate an absence of existence.
To be clear, "prohibition" is the positive action of some authority imposing a rule that bars a thing or activity. "No prohibition" would be a negative because it would indicate the absence of existence of prohibition. Likewise, "against" is a preposition that positively situates the relative positions of the subject of the preposition and the object of the preposition. "Not against" would be a negative because it would indicate the absence of that situation.
"The helmet failed against the crushing weight of the brick falling on it from ten stories up." In that sentence, you may view "failed" in a negative light, but it's not grammatically negative because it is indicating the positive action of the helmet caving in instead of performing the positive action of resisting or repelling the crushing weight. Likewise "against" positively posits the crushing weight in relation to the helmet. Were it "The helmet failed not against the crushing weight..." that would be a negative. Were it "Not the helmet failed against the crushing weight..." that would be a negative. A double negative would be, "It wasn't the helmet that didn't fail," which would be wrong if the meaning were suggesting that the helmet failed but something else didn't.
There's semantic negation (or really negativity) in both words. (But they don't actually logically convert to a single positive.)
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A double negative is a grammatical construction occurring when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence.
- wikipedia
Your example isn’t a double negative because there aren’t two forms of negation in your quote. There isn’t even one form of negation in the quote.
Syntactically, prohibition is not a negated term. To be a negated form, it would need to be something like non-prohibition.
Likewise, against isn’t a negated term. It is just a preposition to relate the word prohibition to the thing prohibited.
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well, a double logical/semantic narrative...
– Carly
6 hours ago
in-hibition could be a morphological negative
– Carly
6 hours ago
@Carly: the “in-” in “inhibit” is not actually the negative prefix, but the homophonous prepositional prefix.
– sumelic
3 hours ago
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A double negative is a grammatical construction occurring when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence.
- wikipedia
Your example isn’t a double negative because there aren’t two forms of negation in your quote. There isn’t even one form of negation in the quote.
Syntactically, prohibition is not a negated term. To be a negated form, it would need to be something like non-prohibition.
Likewise, against isn’t a negated term. It is just a preposition to relate the word prohibition to the thing prohibited.
1
well, a double logical/semantic narrative...
– Carly
6 hours ago
in-hibition could be a morphological negative
– Carly
6 hours ago
@Carly: the “in-” in “inhibit” is not actually the negative prefix, but the homophonous prepositional prefix.
– sumelic
3 hours ago
add a comment |
A double negative is a grammatical construction occurring when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence.
- wikipedia
Your example isn’t a double negative because there aren’t two forms of negation in your quote. There isn’t even one form of negation in the quote.
Syntactically, prohibition is not a negated term. To be a negated form, it would need to be something like non-prohibition.
Likewise, against isn’t a negated term. It is just a preposition to relate the word prohibition to the thing prohibited.
A double negative is a grammatical construction occurring when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence.
- wikipedia
Your example isn’t a double negative because there aren’t two forms of negation in your quote. There isn’t even one form of negation in the quote.
Syntactically, prohibition is not a negated term. To be a negated form, it would need to be something like non-prohibition.
Likewise, against isn’t a negated term. It is just a preposition to relate the word prohibition to the thing prohibited.
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well, a double logical/semantic narrative...
– Carly
6 hours ago
in-hibition could be a morphological negative
– Carly
6 hours ago
@Carly: the “in-” in “inhibit” is not actually the negative prefix, but the homophonous prepositional prefix.
– sumelic
3 hours ago
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1
well, a double logical/semantic narrative...
– Carly
6 hours ago
in-hibition could be a morphological negative
– Carly
6 hours ago
@Carly: the “in-” in “inhibit” is not actually the negative prefix, but the homophonous prepositional prefix.
– sumelic
3 hours ago
1
1
well, a double logical/semantic narrative...
– Carly
6 hours ago
well, a double logical/semantic narrative...
– Carly
6 hours ago
in-hibition could be a morphological negative
– Carly
6 hours ago
in-hibition could be a morphological negative
– Carly
6 hours ago
@Carly: the “in-” in “inhibit” is not actually the negative prefix, but the homophonous prepositional prefix.
– sumelic
3 hours ago
@Carly: the “in-” in “inhibit” is not actually the negative prefix, but the homophonous prepositional prefix.
– sumelic
3 hours ago
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No, it's not a double negative. "Against" doesn't mean "not", and any negative sentence it has is applied to "stealing", not "prohibition". It is at most a negative concord. Just because a word "goes with" negative senses doesn't make it a negative. For instance, consider "There are some" versus "There are not any". When you switch from positive to negative, "some" changes to "any". That doesn't mean that "any" is a negative, or that "There are not any" is a double negative.
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You could give an example of a double negstive, so the OP can compare
– Mari-Lou A
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No, it's not a double negative. "Against" doesn't mean "not", and any negative sentence it has is applied to "stealing", not "prohibition". It is at most a negative concord. Just because a word "goes with" negative senses doesn't make it a negative. For instance, consider "There are some" versus "There are not any". When you switch from positive to negative, "some" changes to "any". That doesn't mean that "any" is a negative, or that "There are not any" is a double negative.
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You could give an example of a double negstive, so the OP can compare
– Mari-Lou A
7 hours ago
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No, it's not a double negative. "Against" doesn't mean "not", and any negative sentence it has is applied to "stealing", not "prohibition". It is at most a negative concord. Just because a word "goes with" negative senses doesn't make it a negative. For instance, consider "There are some" versus "There are not any". When you switch from positive to negative, "some" changes to "any". That doesn't mean that "any" is a negative, or that "There are not any" is a double negative.
No, it's not a double negative. "Against" doesn't mean "not", and any negative sentence it has is applied to "stealing", not "prohibition". It is at most a negative concord. Just because a word "goes with" negative senses doesn't make it a negative. For instance, consider "There are some" versus "There are not any". When you switch from positive to negative, "some" changes to "any". That doesn't mean that "any" is a negative, or that "There are not any" is a double negative.
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You could give an example of a double negstive, so the OP can compare
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You could give an example of a double negstive, so the OP can compare
– Mari-Lou A
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You could give an example of a double negstive, so the OP can compare
– Mari-Lou A
7 hours ago
You could give an example of a double negstive, so the OP can compare
– Mari-Lou A
7 hours ago
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“Prohibition against” is not a double negative. Compare “a battle against”. Even though the preposition “against” often is used to express that something acts counter to something else, it is not a negation. As other answers mention, the word “prohibit” also does not contain any explicit negation. (“Prohibit(ion)” does have some connection to negation in that it can license a negative polarity item like “at all”: we can say “they are prohibited from driving at all” while most speakers can’t use at all in a sentence like *“they are permitted to drive at all”.)
The Google Ngram Viewer indicates that “against” is the second most common preposition found after “prohibition”. The most common is “of”; you could say “prohibition of stealing”. Other possibilities are “prohibition on” and “prohibition from”.
add a comment |
“Prohibition against” is not a double negative. Compare “a battle against”. Even though the preposition “against” often is used to express that something acts counter to something else, it is not a negation. As other answers mention, the word “prohibit” also does not contain any explicit negation. (“Prohibit(ion)” does have some connection to negation in that it can license a negative polarity item like “at all”: we can say “they are prohibited from driving at all” while most speakers can’t use at all in a sentence like *“they are permitted to drive at all”.)
The Google Ngram Viewer indicates that “against” is the second most common preposition found after “prohibition”. The most common is “of”; you could say “prohibition of stealing”. Other possibilities are “prohibition on” and “prohibition from”.
add a comment |
“Prohibition against” is not a double negative. Compare “a battle against”. Even though the preposition “against” often is used to express that something acts counter to something else, it is not a negation. As other answers mention, the word “prohibit” also does not contain any explicit negation. (“Prohibit(ion)” does have some connection to negation in that it can license a negative polarity item like “at all”: we can say “they are prohibited from driving at all” while most speakers can’t use at all in a sentence like *“they are permitted to drive at all”.)
The Google Ngram Viewer indicates that “against” is the second most common preposition found after “prohibition”. The most common is “of”; you could say “prohibition of stealing”. Other possibilities are “prohibition on” and “prohibition from”.
“Prohibition against” is not a double negative. Compare “a battle against”. Even though the preposition “against” often is used to express that something acts counter to something else, it is not a negation. As other answers mention, the word “prohibit” also does not contain any explicit negation. (“Prohibit(ion)” does have some connection to negation in that it can license a negative polarity item like “at all”: we can say “they are prohibited from driving at all” while most speakers can’t use at all in a sentence like *“they are permitted to drive at all”.)
The Google Ngram Viewer indicates that “against” is the second most common preposition found after “prohibition”. The most common is “of”; you could say “prohibition of stealing”. Other possibilities are “prohibition on” and “prohibition from”.
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A double negative? No. It's not even a single negative. Neither "prohibition" nor "against" are negatives. Examples of negatives include but are not limited to:
- no
- not
- nothing
- nobody
- nowhere
- none
A negative in grammar expressly contradicts what the negative is modifying so as to indicate an absence of existence.
To be clear, "prohibition" is the positive action of some authority imposing a rule that bars a thing or activity. "No prohibition" would be a negative because it would indicate the absence of existence of prohibition. Likewise, "against" is a preposition that positively situates the relative positions of the subject of the preposition and the object of the preposition. "Not against" would be a negative because it would indicate the absence of that situation.
"The helmet failed against the crushing weight of the brick falling on it from ten stories up." In that sentence, you may view "failed" in a negative light, but it's not grammatically negative because it is indicating the positive action of the helmet caving in instead of performing the positive action of resisting or repelling the crushing weight. Likewise "against" positively posits the crushing weight in relation to the helmet. Were it "The helmet failed not against the crushing weight..." that would be a negative. Were it "Not the helmet failed against the crushing weight..." that would be a negative. A double negative would be, "It wasn't the helmet that didn't fail," which would be wrong if the meaning were suggesting that the helmet failed but something else didn't.
There's semantic negation (or really negativity) in both words. (But they don't actually logically convert to a single positive.)
– Mitch
3 hours ago
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A double negative? No. It's not even a single negative. Neither "prohibition" nor "against" are negatives. Examples of negatives include but are not limited to:
- no
- not
- nothing
- nobody
- nowhere
- none
A negative in grammar expressly contradicts what the negative is modifying so as to indicate an absence of existence.
To be clear, "prohibition" is the positive action of some authority imposing a rule that bars a thing or activity. "No prohibition" would be a negative because it would indicate the absence of existence of prohibition. Likewise, "against" is a preposition that positively situates the relative positions of the subject of the preposition and the object of the preposition. "Not against" would be a negative because it would indicate the absence of that situation.
"The helmet failed against the crushing weight of the brick falling on it from ten stories up." In that sentence, you may view "failed" in a negative light, but it's not grammatically negative because it is indicating the positive action of the helmet caving in instead of performing the positive action of resisting or repelling the crushing weight. Likewise "against" positively posits the crushing weight in relation to the helmet. Were it "The helmet failed not against the crushing weight..." that would be a negative. Were it "Not the helmet failed against the crushing weight..." that would be a negative. A double negative would be, "It wasn't the helmet that didn't fail," which would be wrong if the meaning were suggesting that the helmet failed but something else didn't.
There's semantic negation (or really negativity) in both words. (But they don't actually logically convert to a single positive.)
– Mitch
3 hours ago
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A double negative? No. It's not even a single negative. Neither "prohibition" nor "against" are negatives. Examples of negatives include but are not limited to:
- no
- not
- nothing
- nobody
- nowhere
- none
A negative in grammar expressly contradicts what the negative is modifying so as to indicate an absence of existence.
To be clear, "prohibition" is the positive action of some authority imposing a rule that bars a thing or activity. "No prohibition" would be a negative because it would indicate the absence of existence of prohibition. Likewise, "against" is a preposition that positively situates the relative positions of the subject of the preposition and the object of the preposition. "Not against" would be a negative because it would indicate the absence of that situation.
"The helmet failed against the crushing weight of the brick falling on it from ten stories up." In that sentence, you may view "failed" in a negative light, but it's not grammatically negative because it is indicating the positive action of the helmet caving in instead of performing the positive action of resisting or repelling the crushing weight. Likewise "against" positively posits the crushing weight in relation to the helmet. Were it "The helmet failed not against the crushing weight..." that would be a negative. Were it "Not the helmet failed against the crushing weight..." that would be a negative. A double negative would be, "It wasn't the helmet that didn't fail," which would be wrong if the meaning were suggesting that the helmet failed but something else didn't.
A double negative? No. It's not even a single negative. Neither "prohibition" nor "against" are negatives. Examples of negatives include but are not limited to:
- no
- not
- nothing
- nobody
- nowhere
- none
A negative in grammar expressly contradicts what the negative is modifying so as to indicate an absence of existence.
To be clear, "prohibition" is the positive action of some authority imposing a rule that bars a thing or activity. "No prohibition" would be a negative because it would indicate the absence of existence of prohibition. Likewise, "against" is a preposition that positively situates the relative positions of the subject of the preposition and the object of the preposition. "Not against" would be a negative because it would indicate the absence of that situation.
"The helmet failed against the crushing weight of the brick falling on it from ten stories up." In that sentence, you may view "failed" in a negative light, but it's not grammatically negative because it is indicating the positive action of the helmet caving in instead of performing the positive action of resisting or repelling the crushing weight. Likewise "against" positively posits the crushing weight in relation to the helmet. Were it "The helmet failed not against the crushing weight..." that would be a negative. Were it "Not the helmet failed against the crushing weight..." that would be a negative. A double negative would be, "It wasn't the helmet that didn't fail," which would be wrong if the meaning were suggesting that the helmet failed but something else didn't.
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There's semantic negation (or really negativity) in both words. (But they don't actually logically convert to a single positive.)
– Mitch
3 hours ago
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There's semantic negation (or really negativity) in both words. (But they don't actually logically convert to a single positive.)
– Mitch
3 hours ago
There's semantic negation (or really negativity) in both words. (But they don't actually logically convert to a single positive.)
– Mitch
3 hours ago
There's semantic negation (or really negativity) in both words. (But they don't actually logically convert to a single positive.)
– Mitch
3 hours ago
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Nothing wrong with "prohibition against stealing" and certainly no double negative. "Prohibition on stealing" would also be correct and, to my ears, would sound better.
– Michael Henchard
8 hours ago
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Well, nobody is taking the hint. A double negative would be "There isn't no prohibition against stealing"
– Mari-Lou A
4 hours ago
'Support for' means 'support extended to'; the preposition is needed to connect 'support' with the thing supported (the referent of the prepositional complement). The suitable preposition with 'prohibition' are 'against' and 'on'.
– Edwin Ashworth
3 hours ago
This isn't a double negative, but also double negatives are not grammatically incorrect.
– nnnnnn
1 hour ago