Is the statement 'Gods love the mysterious' also found in the Vedic Samhitas?Who is the seer of the Isha Upanishad?Has the Anukramani of the Shukla Yajur Veda ever been published in any form?Is the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad part of the Brihad Aranyaka?What part of the Sama Veda Samhita is the Udgitha?Do the Aitareya and Brihadaranyaka Upanishads correctly interpret two hymns of Vamadeva?Why did Indra deliver Sanyasis to the wolves as the Kaushitaki Upanishad says?Where is the Vedic verse quoted by the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad about Brahman entering the body as a bird?Are two Jnana-related Vedic hymns of Vamadeva ever used in Yagnas?Does Veda has more than one Samhita regarding to Shakha?If I consider only Isha upanishad as infallible canonical pramana , and none others; then i am scripturally valid hindu/sanatani or not?

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Is the statement 'Gods love the mysterious' also found in the Vedic Samhitas?


Who is the seer of the Isha Upanishad?Has the Anukramani of the Shukla Yajur Veda ever been published in any form?Is the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad part of the Brihad Aranyaka?What part of the Sama Veda Samhita is the Udgitha?Do the Aitareya and Brihadaranyaka Upanishads correctly interpret two hymns of Vamadeva?Why did Indra deliver Sanyasis to the wolves as the Kaushitaki Upanishad says?Where is the Vedic verse quoted by the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad about Brahman entering the body as a bird?Are two Jnana-related Vedic hymns of Vamadeva ever used in Yagnas?Does Veda has more than one Samhita regarding to Shakha?If I consider only Isha upanishad as infallible canonical pramana , and none others; then i am scripturally valid hindu/sanatani or not?






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The following is from Aitareya Upanishad.




तस्मादिदन्द्रो नामेदन्द्रो ह वै नाम।



तमिदन्द्रं सन्तमिंद्र इत्याचक्षते परोक्षेण।



परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः ৷৷ 1.3.14 ৷৷



Therefore is He Idandra; for Idandra is the true name of Him. But
though He is Idandra, they call Him Indra because of the veil of the
Unrevelation; for the gods love the veil of the Unrevelation, yea,
verily, the gods love the Unrevelation.




My question is, do the Samhita parts of Vedas contain this statement - the gods love the Unrevelation? (परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः)










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    It is mentioned in Taittiriya Brahmana. I am about to post an answer, but you want only from Samhitas. Mention it in question, as both Samhitas and Brahmanas are collectively called as Vedas.

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    @SparkSunshine: Please post preferably from Samhita part

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    Btw, this verse is used to say Puranas are symbolic because Devas like when Tattvas and other facts are said indirectly (Paroksha priyaa). Good question. Will check Samhitas.

    – The Destroyer
    8 hours ago






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    Unraveling a mystery is always mystical. There is a innate curiosity in all beings. Brahma woke up once and saw other light beings afloat in darkness, he asked them who they were and they said ‘welcome to the club’. They did not know either. Read up Yoga Vasishta some ‘upagyana’. Floating around, light beings had to figure themselves out first. I could say, with all things said that they did. Sadhya devas were the first ones as per Purusha Sukta. Next step. : figure out enclosing darkness. I can guarantee No Vedas there....Yup. That’s why this is a comment 😀

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The following is from Aitareya Upanishad.




तस्मादिदन्द्रो नामेदन्द्रो ह वै नाम।



तमिदन्द्रं सन्तमिंद्र इत्याचक्षते परोक्षेण।



परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः ৷৷ 1.3.14 ৷৷



Therefore is He Idandra; for Idandra is the true name of Him. But
though He is Idandra, they call Him Indra because of the veil of the
Unrevelation; for the gods love the veil of the Unrevelation, yea,
verily, the gods love the Unrevelation.




My question is, do the Samhita parts of Vedas contain this statement - the gods love the Unrevelation? (परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः)










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    @Ikshvaku: I am interested in Samhita part.

    – srimannarayana k v
    9 hours ago






  • 1





    It is mentioned in Taittiriya Brahmana. I am about to post an answer, but you want only from Samhitas. Mention it in question, as both Samhitas and Brahmanas are collectively called as Vedas.

    – Spark Sunshine
    9 hours ago







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    @SparkSunshine: Please post preferably from Samhita part

    – srimannarayana k v
    9 hours ago






  • 1





    Btw, this verse is used to say Puranas are symbolic because Devas like when Tattvas and other facts are said indirectly (Paroksha priyaa). Good question. Will check Samhitas.

    – The Destroyer
    8 hours ago






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    Unraveling a mystery is always mystical. There is a innate curiosity in all beings. Brahma woke up once and saw other light beings afloat in darkness, he asked them who they were and they said ‘welcome to the club’. They did not know either. Read up Yoga Vasishta some ‘upagyana’. Floating around, light beings had to figure themselves out first. I could say, with all things said that they did. Sadhya devas were the first ones as per Purusha Sukta. Next step. : figure out enclosing darkness. I can guarantee No Vedas there....Yup. That’s why this is a comment 😀

    – Gopal Anantharaman
    4 hours ago













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The following is from Aitareya Upanishad.




तस्मादिदन्द्रो नामेदन्द्रो ह वै नाम।



तमिदन्द्रं सन्तमिंद्र इत्याचक्षते परोक्षेण।



परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः ৷৷ 1.3.14 ৷৷



Therefore is He Idandra; for Idandra is the true name of Him. But
though He is Idandra, they call Him Indra because of the veil of the
Unrevelation; for the gods love the veil of the Unrevelation, yea,
verily, the gods love the Unrevelation.




My question is, do the Samhita parts of Vedas contain this statement - the gods love the Unrevelation? (परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः)










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The following is from Aitareya Upanishad.




तस्मादिदन्द्रो नामेदन्द्रो ह वै नाम।



तमिदन्द्रं सन्तमिंद्र इत्याचक्षते परोक्षेण।



परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः ৷৷ 1.3.14 ৷৷



Therefore is He Idandra; for Idandra is the true name of Him. But
though He is Idandra, they call Him Indra because of the veil of the
Unrevelation; for the gods love the veil of the Unrevelation, yea,
verily, the gods love the Unrevelation.




My question is, do the Samhita parts of Vedas contain this statement - the gods love the Unrevelation? (परोक्षप्रिया इव हि देवाः)







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    @Ikshvaku: I am interested in Samhita part.

    – srimannarayana k v
    9 hours ago






  • 1





    It is mentioned in Taittiriya Brahmana. I am about to post an answer, but you want only from Samhitas. Mention it in question, as both Samhitas and Brahmanas are collectively called as Vedas.

    – Spark Sunshine
    9 hours ago







  • 1





    @SparkSunshine: Please post preferably from Samhita part

    – srimannarayana k v
    9 hours ago






  • 1





    Btw, this verse is used to say Puranas are symbolic because Devas like when Tattvas and other facts are said indirectly (Paroksha priyaa). Good question. Will check Samhitas.

    – The Destroyer
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    Unraveling a mystery is always mystical. There is a innate curiosity in all beings. Brahma woke up once and saw other light beings afloat in darkness, he asked them who they were and they said ‘welcome to the club’. They did not know either. Read up Yoga Vasishta some ‘upagyana’. Floating around, light beings had to figure themselves out first. I could say, with all things said that they did. Sadhya devas were the first ones as per Purusha Sukta. Next step. : figure out enclosing darkness. I can guarantee No Vedas there....Yup. That’s why this is a comment 😀

    – Gopal Anantharaman
    4 hours ago












  • 2





    @Ikshvaku: I am interested in Samhita part.

    – srimannarayana k v
    9 hours ago






  • 1





    It is mentioned in Taittiriya Brahmana. I am about to post an answer, but you want only from Samhitas. Mention it in question, as both Samhitas and Brahmanas are collectively called as Vedas.

    – Spark Sunshine
    9 hours ago







  • 1





    @SparkSunshine: Please post preferably from Samhita part

    – srimannarayana k v
    9 hours ago






  • 1





    Btw, this verse is used to say Puranas are symbolic because Devas like when Tattvas and other facts are said indirectly (Paroksha priyaa). Good question. Will check Samhitas.

    – The Destroyer
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    Unraveling a mystery is always mystical. There is a innate curiosity in all beings. Brahma woke up once and saw other light beings afloat in darkness, he asked them who they were and they said ‘welcome to the club’. They did not know either. Read up Yoga Vasishta some ‘upagyana’. Floating around, light beings had to figure themselves out first. I could say, with all things said that they did. Sadhya devas were the first ones as per Purusha Sukta. Next step. : figure out enclosing darkness. I can guarantee No Vedas there....Yup. That’s why this is a comment 😀

    – Gopal Anantharaman
    4 hours ago







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@Ikshvaku: I am interested in Samhita part.

– srimannarayana k v
9 hours ago





@Ikshvaku: I am interested in Samhita part.

– srimannarayana k v
9 hours ago




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It is mentioned in Taittiriya Brahmana. I am about to post an answer, but you want only from Samhitas. Mention it in question, as both Samhitas and Brahmanas are collectively called as Vedas.

– Spark Sunshine
9 hours ago






It is mentioned in Taittiriya Brahmana. I am about to post an answer, but you want only from Samhitas. Mention it in question, as both Samhitas and Brahmanas are collectively called as Vedas.

– Spark Sunshine
9 hours ago





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@SparkSunshine: Please post preferably from Samhita part

– srimannarayana k v
9 hours ago





@SparkSunshine: Please post preferably from Samhita part

– srimannarayana k v
9 hours ago




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Btw, this verse is used to say Puranas are symbolic because Devas like when Tattvas and other facts are said indirectly (Paroksha priyaa). Good question. Will check Samhitas.

– The Destroyer
8 hours ago





Btw, this verse is used to say Puranas are symbolic because Devas like when Tattvas and other facts are said indirectly (Paroksha priyaa). Good question. Will check Samhitas.

– The Destroyer
8 hours ago




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Unraveling a mystery is always mystical. There is a innate curiosity in all beings. Brahma woke up once and saw other light beings afloat in darkness, he asked them who they were and they said ‘welcome to the club’. They did not know either. Read up Yoga Vasishta some ‘upagyana’. Floating around, light beings had to figure themselves out first. I could say, with all things said that they did. Sadhya devas were the first ones as per Purusha Sukta. Next step. : figure out enclosing darkness. I can guarantee No Vedas there....Yup. That’s why this is a comment 😀

– Gopal Anantharaman
4 hours ago





Unraveling a mystery is always mystical. There is a innate curiosity in all beings. Brahma woke up once and saw other light beings afloat in darkness, he asked them who they were and they said ‘welcome to the club’. They did not know either. Read up Yoga Vasishta some ‘upagyana’. Floating around, light beings had to figure themselves out first. I could say, with all things said that they did. Sadhya devas were the first ones as per Purusha Sukta. Next step. : figure out enclosing darkness. I can guarantee No Vedas there....Yup. That’s why this is a comment 😀

– Gopal Anantharaman
4 hours ago










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Yes, such quotes are present in Vedas, like in Shatapatha Brahmana also:




सा यदुखा नाम । एतद्वै देवा एतेन कर्मणैतयावृतेमांल्लोकानुदखनन्यदुदखनंस्तस्मादुत्खोत्खा ह वै तामुखेत्याचक्षते परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवाः - ६.७.१.[२३]


And as to why it is called 'Ukhâ;'--by means of this sacred performance and this process the gods at that time dug out these worlds; and inasmuch as they so dug out (ut-khan), it (the pan representing the worlds) is called 'utkhâ,'--'utkhâ' being what they mysteriously (esoterically) call 'ukhâ,' for the gods love the mysterious. (Satapatha Brahamana 6.7.1.23)




Shatapatha Brahamana also contains similar quote about Indra:




स योऽयं मध्ये प्राणः । एष एवेन्द्रस्तानेष प्राणान्मध्यत इन्द्रियेणैन्द्ध यदैन्द्ध तस्मादिन्ध इन्धो ह वै तमिन्द्र इत्याचक्षते परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवास्त इद्धाः सप्त नाना पुरुषानसृजन्त - ६.१.१.[२]


This same vital air in the midst doubtless is Indra. He, by his power (indriya), kindled those (other) vital airs from the midst; and inasmuch as he kindled (indh), he is the kindler (indha): the kindler indeed,--him they call 'Indra' mystically (esoterically), for the gods love the mystic. They (the vital airs), being kindled, created seven separate persons (purusha). (Shatapatha Brahmana 6.1.1.2)




The phrase 'परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवा' occurs frequently in Shatapatha Brahmana like in 6.1.1, 7.4.1, 9.1.2, 7.5.1, 8.6.2, 6.7.1, 14.1.1, 10.5.2, 9.1.1, 6.1.2, 7.4.2...etc. So, it can be considered a valid Vaidic Rishi pramana.






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    Yes, such quotes are present in Vedas, like in Shatapatha Brahmana also:




    सा यदुखा नाम । एतद्वै देवा एतेन कर्मणैतयावृतेमांल्लोकानुदखनन्यदुदखनंस्तस्मादुत्खोत्खा ह वै तामुखेत्याचक्षते परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवाः - ६.७.१.[२३]


    And as to why it is called 'Ukhâ;'--by means of this sacred performance and this process the gods at that time dug out these worlds; and inasmuch as they so dug out (ut-khan), it (the pan representing the worlds) is called 'utkhâ,'--'utkhâ' being what they mysteriously (esoterically) call 'ukhâ,' for the gods love the mysterious. (Satapatha Brahamana 6.7.1.23)




    Shatapatha Brahamana also contains similar quote about Indra:




    स योऽयं मध्ये प्राणः । एष एवेन्द्रस्तानेष प्राणान्मध्यत इन्द्रियेणैन्द्ध यदैन्द्ध तस्मादिन्ध इन्धो ह वै तमिन्द्र इत्याचक्षते परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवास्त इद्धाः सप्त नाना पुरुषानसृजन्त - ६.१.१.[२]


    This same vital air in the midst doubtless is Indra. He, by his power (indriya), kindled those (other) vital airs from the midst; and inasmuch as he kindled (indh), he is the kindler (indha): the kindler indeed,--him they call 'Indra' mystically (esoterically), for the gods love the mystic. They (the vital airs), being kindled, created seven separate persons (purusha). (Shatapatha Brahmana 6.1.1.2)




    The phrase 'परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवा' occurs frequently in Shatapatha Brahmana like in 6.1.1, 7.4.1, 9.1.2, 7.5.1, 8.6.2, 6.7.1, 14.1.1, 10.5.2, 9.1.1, 6.1.2, 7.4.2...etc. So, it can be considered a valid Vaidic Rishi pramana.






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      Yes, such quotes are present in Vedas, like in Shatapatha Brahmana also:




      सा यदुखा नाम । एतद्वै देवा एतेन कर्मणैतयावृतेमांल्लोकानुदखनन्यदुदखनंस्तस्मादुत्खोत्खा ह वै तामुखेत्याचक्षते परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवाः - ६.७.१.[२३]


      And as to why it is called 'Ukhâ;'--by means of this sacred performance and this process the gods at that time dug out these worlds; and inasmuch as they so dug out (ut-khan), it (the pan representing the worlds) is called 'utkhâ,'--'utkhâ' being what they mysteriously (esoterically) call 'ukhâ,' for the gods love the mysterious. (Satapatha Brahamana 6.7.1.23)




      Shatapatha Brahamana also contains similar quote about Indra:




      स योऽयं मध्ये प्राणः । एष एवेन्द्रस्तानेष प्राणान्मध्यत इन्द्रियेणैन्द्ध यदैन्द्ध तस्मादिन्ध इन्धो ह वै तमिन्द्र इत्याचक्षते परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवास्त इद्धाः सप्त नाना पुरुषानसृजन्त - ६.१.१.[२]


      This same vital air in the midst doubtless is Indra. He, by his power (indriya), kindled those (other) vital airs from the midst; and inasmuch as he kindled (indh), he is the kindler (indha): the kindler indeed,--him they call 'Indra' mystically (esoterically), for the gods love the mystic. They (the vital airs), being kindled, created seven separate persons (purusha). (Shatapatha Brahmana 6.1.1.2)




      The phrase 'परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवा' occurs frequently in Shatapatha Brahmana like in 6.1.1, 7.4.1, 9.1.2, 7.5.1, 8.6.2, 6.7.1, 14.1.1, 10.5.2, 9.1.1, 6.1.2, 7.4.2...etc. So, it can be considered a valid Vaidic Rishi pramana.






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        Yes, such quotes are present in Vedas, like in Shatapatha Brahmana also:




        सा यदुखा नाम । एतद्वै देवा एतेन कर्मणैतयावृतेमांल्लोकानुदखनन्यदुदखनंस्तस्मादुत्खोत्खा ह वै तामुखेत्याचक्षते परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवाः - ६.७.१.[२३]


        And as to why it is called 'Ukhâ;'--by means of this sacred performance and this process the gods at that time dug out these worlds; and inasmuch as they so dug out (ut-khan), it (the pan representing the worlds) is called 'utkhâ,'--'utkhâ' being what they mysteriously (esoterically) call 'ukhâ,' for the gods love the mysterious. (Satapatha Brahamana 6.7.1.23)




        Shatapatha Brahamana also contains similar quote about Indra:




        स योऽयं मध्ये प्राणः । एष एवेन्द्रस्तानेष प्राणान्मध्यत इन्द्रियेणैन्द्ध यदैन्द्ध तस्मादिन्ध इन्धो ह वै तमिन्द्र इत्याचक्षते परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवास्त इद्धाः सप्त नाना पुरुषानसृजन्त - ६.१.१.[२]


        This same vital air in the midst doubtless is Indra. He, by his power (indriya), kindled those (other) vital airs from the midst; and inasmuch as he kindled (indh), he is the kindler (indha): the kindler indeed,--him they call 'Indra' mystically (esoterically), for the gods love the mystic. They (the vital airs), being kindled, created seven separate persons (purusha). (Shatapatha Brahmana 6.1.1.2)




        The phrase 'परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवा' occurs frequently in Shatapatha Brahmana like in 6.1.1, 7.4.1, 9.1.2, 7.5.1, 8.6.2, 6.7.1, 14.1.1, 10.5.2, 9.1.1, 6.1.2, 7.4.2...etc. So, it can be considered a valid Vaidic Rishi pramana.






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        Yes, such quotes are present in Vedas, like in Shatapatha Brahmana also:




        सा यदुखा नाम । एतद्वै देवा एतेन कर्मणैतयावृतेमांल्लोकानुदखनन्यदुदखनंस्तस्मादुत्खोत्खा ह वै तामुखेत्याचक्षते परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवाः - ६.७.१.[२३]


        And as to why it is called 'Ukhâ;'--by means of this sacred performance and this process the gods at that time dug out these worlds; and inasmuch as they so dug out (ut-khan), it (the pan representing the worlds) is called 'utkhâ,'--'utkhâ' being what they mysteriously (esoterically) call 'ukhâ,' for the gods love the mysterious. (Satapatha Brahamana 6.7.1.23)




        Shatapatha Brahamana also contains similar quote about Indra:




        स योऽयं मध्ये प्राणः । एष एवेन्द्रस्तानेष प्राणान्मध्यत इन्द्रियेणैन्द्ध यदैन्द्ध तस्मादिन्ध इन्धो ह वै तमिन्द्र इत्याचक्षते परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवास्त इद्धाः सप्त नाना पुरुषानसृजन्त - ६.१.१.[२]


        This same vital air in the midst doubtless is Indra. He, by his power (indriya), kindled those (other) vital airs from the midst; and inasmuch as he kindled (indh), he is the kindler (indha): the kindler indeed,--him they call 'Indra' mystically (esoterically), for the gods love the mystic. They (the vital airs), being kindled, created seven separate persons (purusha). (Shatapatha Brahmana 6.1.1.2)




        The phrase 'परोऽक्षं परोऽक्षकामा हि देवा' occurs frequently in Shatapatha Brahmana like in 6.1.1, 7.4.1, 9.1.2, 7.5.1, 8.6.2, 6.7.1, 14.1.1, 10.5.2, 9.1.1, 6.1.2, 7.4.2...etc. So, it can be considered a valid Vaidic Rishi pramana.







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