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Advanced beginner here,
Going through some vocabulary flash cards and I’ve come across this sentence:
かれは私わたしの方ほうを見みました。
I don’t understand why ほう is necessary here. It appears to me to be superfluous. Any clarification would be appreciated.
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Advanced beginner here,
Going through some vocabulary flash cards and I’ve come across this sentence:
かれは私わたしの方ほうを見みました。
I don’t understand why ほう is necessary here. It appears to me to be superfluous. Any clarification would be appreciated.
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Advanced beginner here,
Going through some vocabulary flash cards and I’ve come across this sentence:
かれは私わたしの方ほうを見みました。
I don’t understand why ほう is necessary here. It appears to me to be superfluous. Any clarification would be appreciated.
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Advanced beginner here,
Going through some vocabulary flash cards and I’ve come across this sentence:
かれは私わたしの方ほうを見みました。
I don’t understand why ほう is necessary here. It appears to me to be superfluous. Any clarification would be appreciated.
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方【ほう】 can refer to a direction.
彼【かれ】は私【わたし】を見【み】ました。
He looked at me.
Compare that to:
彼【かれ】は私【わたし】の方【ほう】を見【み】ました。
He looked toward me. / He looked in my direction.
Please comment if the above does not answer your question, and I can update.
I understand that it can refer to a direction, but I'm curious if this is necessary to include in the sentence. As an English translation it makes equal sense without it. So it would, probably, be dropped colloquially. Is that assumption correct for Japanese or is 方 necessary?
– Matt
6 hours ago
3
"Necessary" here is very subjective. The "方" here is as necessary for this Japanese sentence as the distinction between "He looked toward me" and "He looked at me" is in English. They both make equal amounts of sense, but mean different things - or at the very least have very different nuances. In both Japanese and English, native speakers are presumably going to use whichever one best expresses what they're thinking or feeling. For anything beyond that, you'd have to start looking at empirical word frequencies.
– Mindful
6 hours ago
@Matt, what Mindful said. If the distinction between "at" and "toward" is important to the speaker, then being specific about the 「の方【ほう】」 is "necessary". Note too that, when translating, there's a difference between the translation making sense and the translation being a faithful rendering of the source. (No dig intended, just making that point.)
– Eiríkr Útlendi
4 hours ago
@EiríkrÚtlendi I understand. Thanks!
– Matt
9 mins ago
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方【ほう】 can refer to a direction.
彼【かれ】は私【わたし】を見【み】ました。
He looked at me.
Compare that to:
彼【かれ】は私【わたし】の方【ほう】を見【み】ました。
He looked toward me. / He looked in my direction.
Please comment if the above does not answer your question, and I can update.
I understand that it can refer to a direction, but I'm curious if this is necessary to include in the sentence. As an English translation it makes equal sense without it. So it would, probably, be dropped colloquially. Is that assumption correct for Japanese or is 方 necessary?
– Matt
6 hours ago
3
"Necessary" here is very subjective. The "方" here is as necessary for this Japanese sentence as the distinction between "He looked toward me" and "He looked at me" is in English. They both make equal amounts of sense, but mean different things - or at the very least have very different nuances. In both Japanese and English, native speakers are presumably going to use whichever one best expresses what they're thinking or feeling. For anything beyond that, you'd have to start looking at empirical word frequencies.
– Mindful
6 hours ago
@Matt, what Mindful said. If the distinction between "at" and "toward" is important to the speaker, then being specific about the 「の方【ほう】」 is "necessary". Note too that, when translating, there's a difference between the translation making sense and the translation being a faithful rendering of the source. (No dig intended, just making that point.)
– Eiríkr Útlendi
4 hours ago
@EiríkrÚtlendi I understand. Thanks!
– Matt
9 mins ago
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方【ほう】 can refer to a direction.
彼【かれ】は私【わたし】を見【み】ました。
He looked at me.
Compare that to:
彼【かれ】は私【わたし】の方【ほう】を見【み】ました。
He looked toward me. / He looked in my direction.
Please comment if the above does not answer your question, and I can update.
I understand that it can refer to a direction, but I'm curious if this is necessary to include in the sentence. As an English translation it makes equal sense without it. So it would, probably, be dropped colloquially. Is that assumption correct for Japanese or is 方 necessary?
– Matt
6 hours ago
3
"Necessary" here is very subjective. The "方" here is as necessary for this Japanese sentence as the distinction between "He looked toward me" and "He looked at me" is in English. They both make equal amounts of sense, but mean different things - or at the very least have very different nuances. In both Japanese and English, native speakers are presumably going to use whichever one best expresses what they're thinking or feeling. For anything beyond that, you'd have to start looking at empirical word frequencies.
– Mindful
6 hours ago
@Matt, what Mindful said. If the distinction between "at" and "toward" is important to the speaker, then being specific about the 「の方【ほう】」 is "necessary". Note too that, when translating, there's a difference between the translation making sense and the translation being a faithful rendering of the source. (No dig intended, just making that point.)
– Eiríkr Útlendi
4 hours ago
@EiríkrÚtlendi I understand. Thanks!
– Matt
9 mins ago
add a comment |
方【ほう】 can refer to a direction.
彼【かれ】は私【わたし】を見【み】ました。
He looked at me.
Compare that to:
彼【かれ】は私【わたし】の方【ほう】を見【み】ました。
He looked toward me. / He looked in my direction.
Please comment if the above does not answer your question, and I can update.
方【ほう】 can refer to a direction.
彼【かれ】は私【わたし】を見【み】ました。
He looked at me.
Compare that to:
彼【かれ】は私【わたし】の方【ほう】を見【み】ました。
He looked toward me. / He looked in my direction.
Please comment if the above does not answer your question, and I can update.
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I understand that it can refer to a direction, but I'm curious if this is necessary to include in the sentence. As an English translation it makes equal sense without it. So it would, probably, be dropped colloquially. Is that assumption correct for Japanese or is 方 necessary?
– Matt
6 hours ago
3
"Necessary" here is very subjective. The "方" here is as necessary for this Japanese sentence as the distinction between "He looked toward me" and "He looked at me" is in English. They both make equal amounts of sense, but mean different things - or at the very least have very different nuances. In both Japanese and English, native speakers are presumably going to use whichever one best expresses what they're thinking or feeling. For anything beyond that, you'd have to start looking at empirical word frequencies.
– Mindful
6 hours ago
@Matt, what Mindful said. If the distinction between "at" and "toward" is important to the speaker, then being specific about the 「の方【ほう】」 is "necessary". Note too that, when translating, there's a difference between the translation making sense and the translation being a faithful rendering of the source. (No dig intended, just making that point.)
– Eiríkr Útlendi
4 hours ago
@EiríkrÚtlendi I understand. Thanks!
– Matt
9 mins ago
add a comment |
I understand that it can refer to a direction, but I'm curious if this is necessary to include in the sentence. As an English translation it makes equal sense without it. So it would, probably, be dropped colloquially. Is that assumption correct for Japanese or is 方 necessary?
– Matt
6 hours ago
3
"Necessary" here is very subjective. The "方" here is as necessary for this Japanese sentence as the distinction between "He looked toward me" and "He looked at me" is in English. They both make equal amounts of sense, but mean different things - or at the very least have very different nuances. In both Japanese and English, native speakers are presumably going to use whichever one best expresses what they're thinking or feeling. For anything beyond that, you'd have to start looking at empirical word frequencies.
– Mindful
6 hours ago
@Matt, what Mindful said. If the distinction between "at" and "toward" is important to the speaker, then being specific about the 「の方【ほう】」 is "necessary". Note too that, when translating, there's a difference between the translation making sense and the translation being a faithful rendering of the source. (No dig intended, just making that point.)
– Eiríkr Útlendi
4 hours ago
@EiríkrÚtlendi I understand. Thanks!
– Matt
9 mins ago
I understand that it can refer to a direction, but I'm curious if this is necessary to include in the sentence. As an English translation it makes equal sense without it. So it would, probably, be dropped colloquially. Is that assumption correct for Japanese or is 方 necessary?
– Matt
6 hours ago
I understand that it can refer to a direction, but I'm curious if this is necessary to include in the sentence. As an English translation it makes equal sense without it. So it would, probably, be dropped colloquially. Is that assumption correct for Japanese or is 方 necessary?
– Matt
6 hours ago
3
3
"Necessary" here is very subjective. The "方" here is as necessary for this Japanese sentence as the distinction between "He looked toward me" and "He looked at me" is in English. They both make equal amounts of sense, but mean different things - or at the very least have very different nuances. In both Japanese and English, native speakers are presumably going to use whichever one best expresses what they're thinking or feeling. For anything beyond that, you'd have to start looking at empirical word frequencies.
– Mindful
6 hours ago
"Necessary" here is very subjective. The "方" here is as necessary for this Japanese sentence as the distinction between "He looked toward me" and "He looked at me" is in English. They both make equal amounts of sense, but mean different things - or at the very least have very different nuances. In both Japanese and English, native speakers are presumably going to use whichever one best expresses what they're thinking or feeling. For anything beyond that, you'd have to start looking at empirical word frequencies.
– Mindful
6 hours ago
@Matt, what Mindful said. If the distinction between "at" and "toward" is important to the speaker, then being specific about the 「の方【ほう】」 is "necessary". Note too that, when translating, there's a difference between the translation making sense and the translation being a faithful rendering of the source. (No dig intended, just making that point.)
– Eiríkr Útlendi
4 hours ago
@Matt, what Mindful said. If the distinction between "at" and "toward" is important to the speaker, then being specific about the 「の方【ほう】」 is "necessary". Note too that, when translating, there's a difference between the translation making sense and the translation being a faithful rendering of the source. (No dig intended, just making that point.)
– Eiríkr Útlendi
4 hours ago
@EiríkrÚtlendi I understand. Thanks!
– Matt
9 mins ago
@EiríkrÚtlendi I understand. Thanks!
– Matt
9 mins ago
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