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How far off did Apollo 11 land?How “hard” did Apollo 12 turn left just before it landed?Where were the various Apollo Lunar Modules (LMs) discarded?How did the Apollo astronauts train for the 1/6G lunar landing?What were the differences on the LM ascent stage engines on Apollo 9, 10, and 11?How might the Lunar X Prize contestant spacecraft have navigated their descent from orbit, to landing?As they were all qualified, how/why were the Apollo Astronauts chosen for their individual missions?What colors were used in the Apollo Lunar Module interior, and why?Were Apollo astronauts charged for their berths during their missions?Could the crash sites of the Apollo 11 and 16 LMs be seen by the LRO?What were the problems on the Apollo 11 lunar module?How were the LM astronauts supported during the moon landing and ascent? What were the max G's on them during these phases?






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The story of the Apollo 11 landing includes Armstrong having to fly the LM beyond a boulder field at the automatically targeted site. Was this essentially continuing along the same track the LM had followed through its descent, or was there some lateral deviation as well? The LM had six degrees of freedom (3 axes of both rotation and translation, although having only limited forward view, it would not have been wise to fly it "sideways" or "backwards" i.e. blind). What I am interested in is whether Armstrong (or any of the pilots of the subsequent missions) executed any significant "pirouette" or lateral translation maneuvers to locate and fly to their chosen landing sites and/or pirouette to fully inspect a site before touchdown. If not, was it purely unnecessary, was it inadvisable due to stability concerns, inadvisable due to fuel management concerns... ?










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The story of the Apollo 11 landing includes Armstrong having to fly the LM beyond a boulder field at the automatically targeted site. Was this essentially continuing along the same track the LM had followed through its descent, or was there some lateral deviation as well? The LM had six degrees of freedom (3 axes of both rotation and translation, although having only limited forward view, it would not have been wise to fly it "sideways" or "backwards" i.e. blind). What I am interested in is whether Armstrong (or any of the pilots of the subsequent missions) executed any significant "pirouette" or lateral translation maneuvers to locate and fly to their chosen landing sites and/or pirouette to fully inspect a site before touchdown. If not, was it purely unnecessary, was it inadvisable due to stability concerns, inadvisable due to fuel management concerns... ?










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The story of the Apollo 11 landing includes Armstrong having to fly the LM beyond a boulder field at the automatically targeted site. Was this essentially continuing along the same track the LM had followed through its descent, or was there some lateral deviation as well? The LM had six degrees of freedom (3 axes of both rotation and translation, although having only limited forward view, it would not have been wise to fly it "sideways" or "backwards" i.e. blind). What I am interested in is whether Armstrong (or any of the pilots of the subsequent missions) executed any significant "pirouette" or lateral translation maneuvers to locate and fly to their chosen landing sites and/or pirouette to fully inspect a site before touchdown. If not, was it purely unnecessary, was it inadvisable due to stability concerns, inadvisable due to fuel management concerns... ?










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The excellent monograph by my former colleague Floyd Bennett has this information on Apollo 11 and 12.



Here are the Apollo 11 and 12 ground tracks showing lateral maneuvering.



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There is no information about the maneuvered distance to avoid obstacles, only the distance between planned and actual landing spot.
From the Apollo 11 Summary, link from called2voyage:




The 756.39-second powered descent engine burn was initiated at
102:33:05.01. The time was as planned, but the position at which
powered descent initiation occurred was about 4 n mi farther downrange
than expected. This resulted in the landing point being shifted
downrange about 4 n mi.



The LM was maneuvered manually 1,100 feet down range from the
preplanned landing point during the final 2.5 minutes of descent.




The minimum distance was acheived by Apollo 14 with 55 feet north and 165 feet east, using Pythagoras 174 feet.






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    The excellent monograph by my former colleague Floyd Bennett has this information on Apollo 11 and 12.



    Here are the Apollo 11 and 12 ground tracks showing lateral maneuvering.



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    The excellent monograph by my former colleague Floyd Bennett has this information on Apollo 11 and 12.



    Here are the Apollo 11 and 12 ground tracks showing lateral maneuvering.



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    The excellent monograph by my former colleague Floyd Bennett has this information on Apollo 11 and 12.



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    Apologies for poor image quality.






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    The excellent monograph by my former colleague Floyd Bennett has this information on Apollo 11 and 12.



    Here are the Apollo 11 and 12 ground tracks showing lateral maneuvering.



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    There is no information about the maneuvered distance to avoid obstacles, only the distance between planned and actual landing spot.
    From the Apollo 11 Summary, link from called2voyage:




    The 756.39-second powered descent engine burn was initiated at
    102:33:05.01. The time was as planned, but the position at which
    powered descent initiation occurred was about 4 n mi farther downrange
    than expected. This resulted in the landing point being shifted
    downrange about 4 n mi.



    The LM was maneuvered manually 1,100 feet down range from the
    preplanned landing point during the final 2.5 minutes of descent.




    The minimum distance was acheived by Apollo 14 with 55 feet north and 165 feet east, using Pythagoras 174 feet.






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      See Apollo by the Numbers page 35:



      enter image description here



      There is no information about the maneuvered distance to avoid obstacles, only the distance between planned and actual landing spot.
      From the Apollo 11 Summary, link from called2voyage:




      The 756.39-second powered descent engine burn was initiated at
      102:33:05.01. The time was as planned, but the position at which
      powered descent initiation occurred was about 4 n mi farther downrange
      than expected. This resulted in the landing point being shifted
      downrange about 4 n mi.



      The LM was maneuvered manually 1,100 feet down range from the
      preplanned landing point during the final 2.5 minutes of descent.




      The minimum distance was acheived by Apollo 14 with 55 feet north and 165 feet east, using Pythagoras 174 feet.






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        There is no information about the maneuvered distance to avoid obstacles, only the distance between planned and actual landing spot.
        From the Apollo 11 Summary, link from called2voyage:




        The 756.39-second powered descent engine burn was initiated at
        102:33:05.01. The time was as planned, but the position at which
        powered descent initiation occurred was about 4 n mi farther downrange
        than expected. This resulted in the landing point being shifted
        downrange about 4 n mi.



        The LM was maneuvered manually 1,100 feet down range from the
        preplanned landing point during the final 2.5 minutes of descent.




        The minimum distance was acheived by Apollo 14 with 55 feet north and 165 feet east, using Pythagoras 174 feet.






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        See Apollo by the Numbers page 35:



        enter image description here



        There is no information about the maneuvered distance to avoid obstacles, only the distance between planned and actual landing spot.
        From the Apollo 11 Summary, link from called2voyage:




        The 756.39-second powered descent engine burn was initiated at
        102:33:05.01. The time was as planned, but the position at which
        powered descent initiation occurred was about 4 n mi farther downrange
        than expected. This resulted in the landing point being shifted
        downrange about 4 n mi.



        The LM was maneuvered manually 1,100 feet down range from the
        preplanned landing point during the final 2.5 minutes of descent.




        The minimum distance was acheived by Apollo 14 with 55 feet north and 165 feet east, using Pythagoras 174 feet.







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