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Integrate without expansion?
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I want to evaluate
$$ int_0^1 ( 1 - x^2)^10 dx $$
One way I can do this is by expanding out $(1 - x^2)^10$ term by term, but is there a better way to do this?
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I want to evaluate
$$ int_0^1 ( 1 - x^2)^10 dx $$
One way I can do this is by expanding out $(1 - x^2)^10$ term by term, but is there a better way to do this?
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Yes, by coming up with the reduction formula!
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I want to evaluate
$$ int_0^1 ( 1 - x^2)^10 dx $$
One way I can do this is by expanding out $(1 - x^2)^10$ term by term, but is there a better way to do this?
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I want to evaluate
$$ int_0^1 ( 1 - x^2)^10 dx $$
One way I can do this is by expanding out $(1 - x^2)^10$ term by term, but is there a better way to do this?
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Yes, by coming up with the reduction formula!
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Yes, by coming up with the reduction formula!
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Yes, by coming up with the reduction formula!
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Yes, by coming up with the reduction formula!
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When you encounter this type of problem, the first thing to do is to come up with a reduction formula. Let us find the reduction formula for $int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx $.
Using integration by parts:
$u = (k-x^2)^n $ and $dv = dx$ then $du = n(k^2 - x^2)^n-1(-2x)dx $ and $v =x$
Thus,
$$int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int x^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 \
= x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int bigg[ k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 - (k^2 - x^2)^n bigg] dx \
= x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx - 2n int (k^2 - x^2)^n dx
$$
From here you can see that:
$$2nint(k^2 - x^2)^n dx + int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx - 2n int (k^2 - x^2)^n dx $$
Thus,
$$int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = fracx(k^2 - x^2)^n-12n+1 + frac2nk^22n+1 int (k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx$$
For your problem, $k=1$ and $n=10$. Can you take it from here?
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wow! I knew there must be a shorter way. Thank you!
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– MathStudent
8 hours ago
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Is this really a shorter way? Evaluating all of the terms of the recursion seems like just as much effort as simply using the binomial expansion.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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@MathStudent No problem.
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@SZN Note that this is a definite integral... look at the recursion.... what happen to the first part? This is similar to $int_0^pi sin^n(x) dx$. You also get a recursion... but the trick is the bound of the integral. It makes it easier to evaluate
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8 hours ago
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@user209663 what you say is perfectly fine. But by using the binomial expansion I can evaluate the integral in just a few lines without any recursion or argument about bounds.
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8 hours ago
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This answer is exactly what the asker is NOT asking for. However, I believe it will be useful to show the asker that expanding out "term-by-term" is not actually that hard.
We have
beginalign
int_0^1 (1-x^2)^10dx &= int_0^1 sum_i=0^10 C(10,i)(-x^2)^idx \
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& = sum_i=0^10 (-1)^iC(10,i)int_0^1 x^2idx\
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&= sum_i=0^10 frac(-1)^iC(10,i)2i+1,
endalign
where $$C(n,m) = fracn!m!(n-m)!.$$
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An alternate approach is through the beta function. We start by u-substitution and try to make our way towards an integral form of the beta function:
$$beginalign*
int_0^1(1-x^2)^10,mathrm dx &= frac12 int_0^1 (1-u)^10u^-1/2,mathrm du,qquad x=sqrtu \
&= frac12 int_0^1 (1-u)^11-1u^1/2-1,mathrm du\
&= frac12cdotfracGamma(11)Gamma(1/2)Gamma(11+1/2)\
&= frac12cdotfrac10!sqrtpifrac22!4^11cdot11!sqrtpi\
&= frac262144969969.
endalign*$$
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Upvoted. There's a special place in my heart for using special functions to solve problems that look like they only admit basic methods :-)
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– SZN
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Similar to dxdydz's answer, let $x=sin(t)$
$$int_0^1 ( 1 - x^2)^10, dx=int_0^frac pi 2cos^21(t),dt$$ and remember that
$$int_0^frac pi 2cos^n(t),dt=fracsqrtpi 2 frac Gamma left(fracn+12right) Gamma
left(fracn+22right)$$
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When you encounter this type of problem, the first thing to do is to come up with a reduction formula. Let us find the reduction formula for $int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx $.
Using integration by parts:
$u = (k-x^2)^n $ and $dv = dx$ then $du = n(k^2 - x^2)^n-1(-2x)dx $ and $v =x$
Thus,
$$int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int x^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 \
= x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int bigg[ k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 - (k^2 - x^2)^n bigg] dx \
= x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx - 2n int (k^2 - x^2)^n dx
$$
From here you can see that:
$$2nint(k^2 - x^2)^n dx + int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx - 2n int (k^2 - x^2)^n dx $$
Thus,
$$int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = fracx(k^2 - x^2)^n-12n+1 + frac2nk^22n+1 int (k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx$$
For your problem, $k=1$ and $n=10$. Can you take it from here?
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wow! I knew there must be a shorter way. Thank you!
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– MathStudent
8 hours ago
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Is this really a shorter way? Evaluating all of the terms of the recursion seems like just as much effort as simply using the binomial expansion.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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@MathStudent No problem.
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@SZN Note that this is a definite integral... look at the recursion.... what happen to the first part? This is similar to $int_0^pi sin^n(x) dx$. You also get a recursion... but the trick is the bound of the integral. It makes it easier to evaluate
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@user209663 what you say is perfectly fine. But by using the binomial expansion I can evaluate the integral in just a few lines without any recursion or argument about bounds.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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When you encounter this type of problem, the first thing to do is to come up with a reduction formula. Let us find the reduction formula for $int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx $.
Using integration by parts:
$u = (k-x^2)^n $ and $dv = dx$ then $du = n(k^2 - x^2)^n-1(-2x)dx $ and $v =x$
Thus,
$$int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int x^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 \
= x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int bigg[ k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 - (k^2 - x^2)^n bigg] dx \
= x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx - 2n int (k^2 - x^2)^n dx
$$
From here you can see that:
$$2nint(k^2 - x^2)^n dx + int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx - 2n int (k^2 - x^2)^n dx $$
Thus,
$$int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = fracx(k^2 - x^2)^n-12n+1 + frac2nk^22n+1 int (k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx$$
For your problem, $k=1$ and $n=10$. Can you take it from here?
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wow! I knew there must be a shorter way. Thank you!
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– MathStudent
8 hours ago
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Is this really a shorter way? Evaluating all of the terms of the recursion seems like just as much effort as simply using the binomial expansion.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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@MathStudent No problem.
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@SZN Note that this is a definite integral... look at the recursion.... what happen to the first part? This is similar to $int_0^pi sin^n(x) dx$. You also get a recursion... but the trick is the bound of the integral. It makes it easier to evaluate
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@user209663 what you say is perfectly fine. But by using the binomial expansion I can evaluate the integral in just a few lines without any recursion or argument about bounds.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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When you encounter this type of problem, the first thing to do is to come up with a reduction formula. Let us find the reduction formula for $int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx $.
Using integration by parts:
$u = (k-x^2)^n $ and $dv = dx$ then $du = n(k^2 - x^2)^n-1(-2x)dx $ and $v =x$
Thus,
$$int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int x^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 \
= x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int bigg[ k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 - (k^2 - x^2)^n bigg] dx \
= x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx - 2n int (k^2 - x^2)^n dx
$$
From here you can see that:
$$2nint(k^2 - x^2)^n dx + int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx - 2n int (k^2 - x^2)^n dx $$
Thus,
$$int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = fracx(k^2 - x^2)^n-12n+1 + frac2nk^22n+1 int (k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx$$
For your problem, $k=1$ and $n=10$. Can you take it from here?
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When you encounter this type of problem, the first thing to do is to come up with a reduction formula. Let us find the reduction formula for $int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx $.
Using integration by parts:
$u = (k-x^2)^n $ and $dv = dx$ then $du = n(k^2 - x^2)^n-1(-2x)dx $ and $v =x$
Thus,
$$int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int x^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 \
= x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int bigg[ k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 - (k^2 - x^2)^n bigg] dx \
= x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx - 2n int (k^2 - x^2)^n dx
$$
From here you can see that:
$$2nint(k^2 - x^2)^n dx + int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = x(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 + 2n int k^2(k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx - 2n int (k^2 - x^2)^n dx $$
Thus,
$$int(k^2 - x^2)^n dx = fracx(k^2 - x^2)^n-12n+1 + frac2nk^22n+1 int (k^2 - x^2)^n-1 dx$$
For your problem, $k=1$ and $n=10$. Can you take it from here?
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wow! I knew there must be a shorter way. Thank you!
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– MathStudent
8 hours ago
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Is this really a shorter way? Evaluating all of the terms of the recursion seems like just as much effort as simply using the binomial expansion.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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@MathStudent No problem.
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@SZN Note that this is a definite integral... look at the recursion.... what happen to the first part? This is similar to $int_0^pi sin^n(x) dx$. You also get a recursion... but the trick is the bound of the integral. It makes it easier to evaluate
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@user209663 what you say is perfectly fine. But by using the binomial expansion I can evaluate the integral in just a few lines without any recursion or argument about bounds.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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wow! I knew there must be a shorter way. Thank you!
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– MathStudent
8 hours ago
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Is this really a shorter way? Evaluating all of the terms of the recursion seems like just as much effort as simply using the binomial expansion.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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@MathStudent No problem.
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@SZN Note that this is a definite integral... look at the recursion.... what happen to the first part? This is similar to $int_0^pi sin^n(x) dx$. You also get a recursion... but the trick is the bound of the integral. It makes it easier to evaluate
$endgroup$
– user209663
8 hours ago
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@user209663 what you say is perfectly fine. But by using the binomial expansion I can evaluate the integral in just a few lines without any recursion or argument about bounds.
$endgroup$
– SZN
8 hours ago
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wow! I knew there must be a shorter way. Thank you!
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– MathStudent
8 hours ago
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wow! I knew there must be a shorter way. Thank you!
$endgroup$
– MathStudent
8 hours ago
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Is this really a shorter way? Evaluating all of the terms of the recursion seems like just as much effort as simply using the binomial expansion.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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Is this really a shorter way? Evaluating all of the terms of the recursion seems like just as much effort as simply using the binomial expansion.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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@MathStudent No problem.
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@MathStudent No problem.
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@SZN Note that this is a definite integral... look at the recursion.... what happen to the first part? This is similar to $int_0^pi sin^n(x) dx$. You also get a recursion... but the trick is the bound of the integral. It makes it easier to evaluate
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@SZN Note that this is a definite integral... look at the recursion.... what happen to the first part? This is similar to $int_0^pi sin^n(x) dx$. You also get a recursion... but the trick is the bound of the integral. It makes it easier to evaluate
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– user209663
8 hours ago
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@user209663 what you say is perfectly fine. But by using the binomial expansion I can evaluate the integral in just a few lines without any recursion or argument about bounds.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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@user209663 what you say is perfectly fine. But by using the binomial expansion I can evaluate the integral in just a few lines without any recursion or argument about bounds.
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– SZN
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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This answer is exactly what the asker is NOT asking for. However, I believe it will be useful to show the asker that expanding out "term-by-term" is not actually that hard.
We have
beginalign
int_0^1 (1-x^2)^10dx &= int_0^1 sum_i=0^10 C(10,i)(-x^2)^idx \
%
& = sum_i=0^10 (-1)^iC(10,i)int_0^1 x^2idx\
%
&= sum_i=0^10 frac(-1)^iC(10,i)2i+1,
endalign
where $$C(n,m) = fracn!m!(n-m)!.$$
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This answer is exactly what the asker is NOT asking for. However, I believe it will be useful to show the asker that expanding out "term-by-term" is not actually that hard.
We have
beginalign
int_0^1 (1-x^2)^10dx &= int_0^1 sum_i=0^10 C(10,i)(-x^2)^idx \
%
& = sum_i=0^10 (-1)^iC(10,i)int_0^1 x^2idx\
%
&= sum_i=0^10 frac(-1)^iC(10,i)2i+1,
endalign
where $$C(n,m) = fracn!m!(n-m)!.$$
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
This answer is exactly what the asker is NOT asking for. However, I believe it will be useful to show the asker that expanding out "term-by-term" is not actually that hard.
We have
beginalign
int_0^1 (1-x^2)^10dx &= int_0^1 sum_i=0^10 C(10,i)(-x^2)^idx \
%
& = sum_i=0^10 (-1)^iC(10,i)int_0^1 x^2idx\
%
&= sum_i=0^10 frac(-1)^iC(10,i)2i+1,
endalign
where $$C(n,m) = fracn!m!(n-m)!.$$
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This answer is exactly what the asker is NOT asking for. However, I believe it will be useful to show the asker that expanding out "term-by-term" is not actually that hard.
We have
beginalign
int_0^1 (1-x^2)^10dx &= int_0^1 sum_i=0^10 C(10,i)(-x^2)^idx \
%
& = sum_i=0^10 (-1)^iC(10,i)int_0^1 x^2idx\
%
&= sum_i=0^10 frac(-1)^iC(10,i)2i+1,
endalign
where $$C(n,m) = fracn!m!(n-m)!.$$
answered 8 hours ago
SZNSZN
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An alternate approach is through the beta function. We start by u-substitution and try to make our way towards an integral form of the beta function:
$$beginalign*
int_0^1(1-x^2)^10,mathrm dx &= frac12 int_0^1 (1-u)^10u^-1/2,mathrm du,qquad x=sqrtu \
&= frac12 int_0^1 (1-u)^11-1u^1/2-1,mathrm du\
&= frac12cdotfracGamma(11)Gamma(1/2)Gamma(11+1/2)\
&= frac12cdotfrac10!sqrtpifrac22!4^11cdot11!sqrtpi\
&= frac262144969969.
endalign*$$
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Upvoted. There's a special place in my heart for using special functions to solve problems that look like they only admit basic methods :-)
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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An alternate approach is through the beta function. We start by u-substitution and try to make our way towards an integral form of the beta function:
$$beginalign*
int_0^1(1-x^2)^10,mathrm dx &= frac12 int_0^1 (1-u)^10u^-1/2,mathrm du,qquad x=sqrtu \
&= frac12 int_0^1 (1-u)^11-1u^1/2-1,mathrm du\
&= frac12cdotfracGamma(11)Gamma(1/2)Gamma(11+1/2)\
&= frac12cdotfrac10!sqrtpifrac22!4^11cdot11!sqrtpi\
&= frac262144969969.
endalign*$$
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Upvoted. There's a special place in my heart for using special functions to solve problems that look like they only admit basic methods :-)
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– SZN
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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An alternate approach is through the beta function. We start by u-substitution and try to make our way towards an integral form of the beta function:
$$beginalign*
int_0^1(1-x^2)^10,mathrm dx &= frac12 int_0^1 (1-u)^10u^-1/2,mathrm du,qquad x=sqrtu \
&= frac12 int_0^1 (1-u)^11-1u^1/2-1,mathrm du\
&= frac12cdotfracGamma(11)Gamma(1/2)Gamma(11+1/2)\
&= frac12cdotfrac10!sqrtpifrac22!4^11cdot11!sqrtpi\
&= frac262144969969.
endalign*$$
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An alternate approach is through the beta function. We start by u-substitution and try to make our way towards an integral form of the beta function:
$$beginalign*
int_0^1(1-x^2)^10,mathrm dx &= frac12 int_0^1 (1-u)^10u^-1/2,mathrm du,qquad x=sqrtu \
&= frac12 int_0^1 (1-u)^11-1u^1/2-1,mathrm du\
&= frac12cdotfracGamma(11)Gamma(1/2)Gamma(11+1/2)\
&= frac12cdotfrac10!sqrtpifrac22!4^11cdot11!sqrtpi\
&= frac262144969969.
endalign*$$
answered 8 hours ago
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Upvoted. There's a special place in my heart for using special functions to solve problems that look like they only admit basic methods :-)
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Upvoted. There's a special place in my heart for using special functions to solve problems that look like they only admit basic methods :-)
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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Upvoted. There's a special place in my heart for using special functions to solve problems that look like they only admit basic methods :-)
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– SZN
8 hours ago
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Upvoted. There's a special place in my heart for using special functions to solve problems that look like they only admit basic methods :-)
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Similar to dxdydz's answer, let $x=sin(t)$
$$int_0^1 ( 1 - x^2)^10, dx=int_0^frac pi 2cos^21(t),dt$$ and remember that
$$int_0^frac pi 2cos^n(t),dt=fracsqrtpi 2 frac Gamma left(fracn+12right) Gamma
left(fracn+22right)$$
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Similar to dxdydz's answer, let $x=sin(t)$
$$int_0^1 ( 1 - x^2)^10, dx=int_0^frac pi 2cos^21(t),dt$$ and remember that
$$int_0^frac pi 2cos^n(t),dt=fracsqrtpi 2 frac Gamma left(fracn+12right) Gamma
left(fracn+22right)$$
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Similar to dxdydz's answer, let $x=sin(t)$
$$int_0^1 ( 1 - x^2)^10, dx=int_0^frac pi 2cos^21(t),dt$$ and remember that
$$int_0^frac pi 2cos^n(t),dt=fracsqrtpi 2 frac Gamma left(fracn+12right) Gamma
left(fracn+22right)$$
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Similar to dxdydz's answer, let $x=sin(t)$
$$int_0^1 ( 1 - x^2)^10, dx=int_0^frac pi 2cos^21(t),dt$$ and remember that
$$int_0^frac pi 2cos^n(t),dt=fracsqrtpi 2 frac Gamma left(fracn+12right) Gamma
left(fracn+22right)$$
answered 57 mins ago
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