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How to ride a fish?
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In my world, there are giant fish, reptiles, and bugs. My question is, how would you be able to put a harness or saddle on a fish?
Info:
- Swamp bio being ridden by humans
- Fish range in all different sizes but are mostly bigger than the average adult
- Fish have different plant life growing off of them but can be trimmed if needed
- Possibly a saddle and reins deal
- All primitive materials like plants: vines, spider slick, leaves, wood; also basic metal skills.
- There are no mammals so no fur or leather
fauna materials construction transportation
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In my world, there are giant fish, reptiles, and bugs. My question is, how would you be able to put a harness or saddle on a fish?
Info:
- Swamp bio being ridden by humans
- Fish range in all different sizes but are mostly bigger than the average adult
- Fish have different plant life growing off of them but can be trimmed if needed
- Possibly a saddle and reins deal
- All primitive materials like plants: vines, spider slick, leaves, wood; also basic metal skills.
- There are no mammals so no fur or leather
fauna materials construction transportation
edited 8 hours ago
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We can't come with a unique solution if you don't define the body shape of the fish.
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– L.Dutch♦
10 hours ago
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You can make leather from fish skin, FYI. There are even commercial enterprises operating today that will sell you stuff made from it.
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– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
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Also, when you say "ride", what will be doing the riding, and in what environment? A humanoid biped, riding at the surface? Something else riding at the surface? "riding" under the water? You're gonna need to be a bit more detailed here!
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– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
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Who is doing the riding ? Are they water or air breathers or amphibians ? Do they have legs (how many ?), arms, hands, claws, suction cups ? If there are no mammals this suggests they (the riders) are also not mammals so what are they ?
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– StephenG
10 hours ago
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Do your fish have a slime coat like literally all real world fish? Do they have smooth or rough skin like a shark?
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In my world, there are giant fish, reptiles, and bugs. My question is, how would you be able to put a harness or saddle on a fish?
Info:
- Swamp bio being ridden by humans
- Fish range in all different sizes but are mostly bigger than the average adult
- Fish have different plant life growing off of them but can be trimmed if needed
- Possibly a saddle and reins deal
- All primitive materials like plants: vines, spider slick, leaves, wood; also basic metal skills.
- There are no mammals so no fur or leather
fauna materials construction transportation
edited 8 hours ago
DJClayworth
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asked 10 hours ago
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In my world, there are giant fish, reptiles, and bugs. My question is, how would you be able to put a harness or saddle on a fish?
Info:
- Swamp bio being ridden by humans
- Fish range in all different sizes but are mostly bigger than the average adult
- Fish have different plant life growing off of them but can be trimmed if needed
- Possibly a saddle and reins deal
- All primitive materials like plants: vines, spider slick, leaves, wood; also basic metal skills.
- There are no mammals so no fur or leather
fauna materials construction transportation
fauna materials construction transportation
edited 8 hours ago
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We can't come with a unique solution if you don't define the body shape of the fish.
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– L.Dutch♦
10 hours ago
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You can make leather from fish skin, FYI. There are even commercial enterprises operating today that will sell you stuff made from it.
$endgroup$
– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
2
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Also, when you say "ride", what will be doing the riding, and in what environment? A humanoid biped, riding at the surface? Something else riding at the surface? "riding" under the water? You're gonna need to be a bit more detailed here!
$endgroup$
– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
Who is doing the riding ? Are they water or air breathers or amphibians ? Do they have legs (how many ?), arms, hands, claws, suction cups ? If there are no mammals this suggests they (the riders) are also not mammals so what are they ?
$endgroup$
– StephenG
10 hours ago
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Do your fish have a slime coat like literally all real world fish? Do they have smooth or rough skin like a shark?
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– stix
8 hours ago
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We can't come with a unique solution if you don't define the body shape of the fish.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
10 hours ago
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You can make leather from fish skin, FYI. There are even commercial enterprises operating today that will sell you stuff made from it.
$endgroup$
– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
Also, when you say "ride", what will be doing the riding, and in what environment? A humanoid biped, riding at the surface? Something else riding at the surface? "riding" under the water? You're gonna need to be a bit more detailed here!
$endgroup$
– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
Who is doing the riding ? Are they water or air breathers or amphibians ? Do they have legs (how many ?), arms, hands, claws, suction cups ? If there are no mammals this suggests they (the riders) are also not mammals so what are they ?
$endgroup$
– StephenG
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
Do your fish have a slime coat like literally all real world fish? Do they have smooth or rough skin like a shark?
$endgroup$
– stix
8 hours ago
2
2
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We can't come with a unique solution if you don't define the body shape of the fish.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
We can't come with a unique solution if you don't define the body shape of the fish.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
You can make leather from fish skin, FYI. There are even commercial enterprises operating today that will sell you stuff made from it.
$endgroup$
– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
You can make leather from fish skin, FYI. There are even commercial enterprises operating today that will sell you stuff made from it.
$endgroup$
– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
Also, when you say "ride", what will be doing the riding, and in what environment? A humanoid biped, riding at the surface? Something else riding at the surface? "riding" under the water? You're gonna need to be a bit more detailed here!
$endgroup$
– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
Also, when you say "ride", what will be doing the riding, and in what environment? A humanoid biped, riding at the surface? Something else riding at the surface? "riding" under the water? You're gonna need to be a bit more detailed here!
$endgroup$
– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
Who is doing the riding ? Are they water or air breathers or amphibians ? Do they have legs (how many ?), arms, hands, claws, suction cups ? If there are no mammals this suggests they (the riders) are also not mammals so what are they ?
$endgroup$
– StephenG
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
Who is doing the riding ? Are they water or air breathers or amphibians ? Do they have legs (how many ?), arms, hands, claws, suction cups ? If there are no mammals this suggests they (the riders) are also not mammals so what are they ?
$endgroup$
– StephenG
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
Do your fish have a slime coat like literally all real world fish? Do they have smooth or rough skin like a shark?
$endgroup$
– stix
8 hours ago
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Do your fish have a slime coat like literally all real world fish? Do they have smooth or rough skin like a shark?
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– stix
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Water is 1000x denser than air, and much more viscous. So saddling fish only works if you are going to be riding on the surface. That's on top of the fish having a shape that allows for saddling.
If you are going to be underwater, you'd better be horizontal and grab the animal by some means. If they have shark skin, you might be able to hold on to them (you'll need a thick skin or you may bleed).
If you wish for something more natural than a saddle and hardier than plants, remoras will do:
Or if the fish is male, you can hold on to them by the linus. Sharks and rays have two of these. This may also be used to cause the fish to release some nutritive, protein-rich secretion.
Aerial fish may be surfed on. There is plenty of literature on this:
And here is a real life example, as seen in Sharknado 2: The Second One:
answered 10 hours ago
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– Backup Plan
10 hours ago
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This is what me and my old man do while fishing. you have something that goes through the gills and out the mouth, you can steer it that way. we attach fish to the boat that way and they stay alive. the cord goes in the gills through the mouth and out the other gill, the rider pulls each on the side to steer. or if you want to be fancy ,out the front and over the nose, I'll message with a sketch in a few hours.
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– WindWelder
9 hours ago
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Coffee just came out my nose....Haters gonna hate indeed
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– Paul TIKI
8 hours ago
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If humans ride it strictly on the surface, a saddle-like seat made out of vines is a good anti-slip material for the rider. The contraption is a belt which wraps around the body like a belt, with loops into which the dorsal fin and side fins can fit. This will hold the seat in place and prevent it from sagging and turning. (Yes, fish skin is very slippery). Reins for controlling direction work well too.
If the fish is ridden underwater too, you have a serious issue with water resistance. The saddle would be modified to allow the rider to lie down on the fish's back. He/she may need to strap his/her waist to the saddle and the feet holding on to the stirrups, which are strapped to the saddle. The rider needs to release him/herself quickly for air, in case the fish does not rise to the surface for a reason.
Saddle parts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddle#/media/File%3AEnglishSaddleParts.png
Can be modified to suit the task.
answered 7 hours ago
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Water is 1000x denser than air, and much more viscous. So saddling fish only works if you are going to be riding on the surface. That's on top of the fish having a shape that allows for saddling.
If you are going to be underwater, you'd better be horizontal and grab the animal by some means. If they have shark skin, you might be able to hold on to them (you'll need a thick skin or you may bleed).
If you wish for something more natural than a saddle and hardier than plants, remoras will do:
Or if the fish is male, you can hold on to them by the linus. Sharks and rays have two of these. This may also be used to cause the fish to release some nutritive, protein-rich secretion.
Aerial fish may be surfed on. There is plenty of literature on this:
And here is a real life example, as seen in Sharknado 2: The Second One:
answered 10 hours ago
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– Backup Plan
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This is what me and my old man do while fishing. you have something that goes through the gills and out the mouth, you can steer it that way. we attach fish to the boat that way and they stay alive. the cord goes in the gills through the mouth and out the other gill, the rider pulls each on the side to steer. or if you want to be fancy ,out the front and over the nose, I'll message with a sketch in a few hours.
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– WindWelder
9 hours ago
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Coffee just came out my nose....Haters gonna hate indeed
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– Paul TIKI
8 hours ago
add a comment
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$begingroup$
Water is 1000x denser than air, and much more viscous. So saddling fish only works if you are going to be riding on the surface. That's on top of the fish having a shape that allows for saddling.
If you are going to be underwater, you'd better be horizontal and grab the animal by some means. If they have shark skin, you might be able to hold on to them (you'll need a thick skin or you may bleed).
If you wish for something more natural than a saddle and hardier than plants, remoras will do:
Or if the fish is male, you can hold on to them by the linus. Sharks and rays have two of these. This may also be used to cause the fish to release some nutritive, protein-rich secretion.
Aerial fish may be surfed on. There is plenty of literature on this:
And here is a real life example, as seen in Sharknado 2: The Second One:
answered 10 hours ago
RenanRenan
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This is gold, awesome collection.
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– Backup Plan
10 hours ago
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This is what me and my old man do while fishing. you have something that goes through the gills and out the mouth, you can steer it that way. we attach fish to the boat that way and they stay alive. the cord goes in the gills through the mouth and out the other gill, the rider pulls each on the side to steer. or if you want to be fancy ,out the front and over the nose, I'll message with a sketch in a few hours.
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– WindWelder
9 hours ago
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Coffee just came out my nose....Haters gonna hate indeed
$endgroup$
– Paul TIKI
8 hours ago
add a comment
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$begingroup$
Water is 1000x denser than air, and much more viscous. So saddling fish only works if you are going to be riding on the surface. That's on top of the fish having a shape that allows for saddling.
If you are going to be underwater, you'd better be horizontal and grab the animal by some means. If they have shark skin, you might be able to hold on to them (you'll need a thick skin or you may bleed).
If you wish for something more natural than a saddle and hardier than plants, remoras will do:
Or if the fish is male, you can hold on to them by the linus. Sharks and rays have two of these. This may also be used to cause the fish to release some nutritive, protein-rich secretion.
Aerial fish may be surfed on. There is plenty of literature on this:
And here is a real life example, as seen in Sharknado 2: The Second One:
answered 10 hours ago
RenanRenan
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$endgroup$
Water is 1000x denser than air, and much more viscous. So saddling fish only works if you are going to be riding on the surface. That's on top of the fish having a shape that allows for saddling.
If you are going to be underwater, you'd better be horizontal and grab the animal by some means. If they have shark skin, you might be able to hold on to them (you'll need a thick skin or you may bleed).
If you wish for something more natural than a saddle and hardier than plants, remoras will do:
Or if the fish is male, you can hold on to them by the linus. Sharks and rays have two of these. This may also be used to cause the fish to release some nutritive, protein-rich secretion.
Aerial fish may be surfed on. There is plenty of literature on this:
And here is a real life example, as seen in Sharknado 2: The Second One:
answered 10 hours ago
RenanRenan
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answered 10 hours ago
RenanRenan
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answered 10 hours ago
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answered 10 hours ago
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This is gold, awesome collection.
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– Backup Plan
10 hours ago
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This is what me and my old man do while fishing. you have something that goes through the gills and out the mouth, you can steer it that way. we attach fish to the boat that way and they stay alive. the cord goes in the gills through the mouth and out the other gill, the rider pulls each on the side to steer. or if you want to be fancy ,out the front and over the nose, I'll message with a sketch in a few hours.
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– WindWelder
9 hours ago
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Coffee just came out my nose....Haters gonna hate indeed
$endgroup$
– Paul TIKI
8 hours ago
add a comment
|
2
$begingroup$
This is gold, awesome collection.
$endgroup$
– Backup Plan
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
This is what me and my old man do while fishing. you have something that goes through the gills and out the mouth, you can steer it that way. we attach fish to the boat that way and they stay alive. the cord goes in the gills through the mouth and out the other gill, the rider pulls each on the side to steer. or if you want to be fancy ,out the front and over the nose, I'll message with a sketch in a few hours.
$endgroup$
– WindWelder
9 hours ago
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Coffee just came out my nose....Haters gonna hate indeed
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– Paul TIKI
8 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
This is gold, awesome collection.
$endgroup$
– Backup Plan
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
This is gold, awesome collection.
$endgroup$
– Backup Plan
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
This is what me and my old man do while fishing. you have something that goes through the gills and out the mouth, you can steer it that way. we attach fish to the boat that way and they stay alive. the cord goes in the gills through the mouth and out the other gill, the rider pulls each on the side to steer. or if you want to be fancy ,out the front and over the nose, I'll message with a sketch in a few hours.
$endgroup$
– WindWelder
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
This is what me and my old man do while fishing. you have something that goes through the gills and out the mouth, you can steer it that way. we attach fish to the boat that way and they stay alive. the cord goes in the gills through the mouth and out the other gill, the rider pulls each on the side to steer. or if you want to be fancy ,out the front and over the nose, I'll message with a sketch in a few hours.
$endgroup$
– WindWelder
9 hours ago
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Coffee just came out my nose....Haters gonna hate indeed
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– Paul TIKI
8 hours ago
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Coffee just came out my nose....Haters gonna hate indeed
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– Paul TIKI
8 hours ago
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If humans ride it strictly on the surface, a saddle-like seat made out of vines is a good anti-slip material for the rider. The contraption is a belt which wraps around the body like a belt, with loops into which the dorsal fin and side fins can fit. This will hold the seat in place and prevent it from sagging and turning. (Yes, fish skin is very slippery). Reins for controlling direction work well too.
If the fish is ridden underwater too, you have a serious issue with water resistance. The saddle would be modified to allow the rider to lie down on the fish's back. He/she may need to strap his/her waist to the saddle and the feet holding on to the stirrups, which are strapped to the saddle. The rider needs to release him/herself quickly for air, in case the fish does not rise to the surface for a reason.
Saddle parts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddle#/media/File%3AEnglishSaddleParts.png
Can be modified to suit the task.
answered 7 hours ago
Christmas SnowChristmas Snow
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$begingroup$
If humans ride it strictly on the surface, a saddle-like seat made out of vines is a good anti-slip material for the rider. The contraption is a belt which wraps around the body like a belt, with loops into which the dorsal fin and side fins can fit. This will hold the seat in place and prevent it from sagging and turning. (Yes, fish skin is very slippery). Reins for controlling direction work well too.
If the fish is ridden underwater too, you have a serious issue with water resistance. The saddle would be modified to allow the rider to lie down on the fish's back. He/she may need to strap his/her waist to the saddle and the feet holding on to the stirrups, which are strapped to the saddle. The rider needs to release him/herself quickly for air, in case the fish does not rise to the surface for a reason.
Saddle parts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddle#/media/File%3AEnglishSaddleParts.png
Can be modified to suit the task.
answered 7 hours ago
Christmas SnowChristmas Snow
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$endgroup$
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$begingroup$
If humans ride it strictly on the surface, a saddle-like seat made out of vines is a good anti-slip material for the rider. The contraption is a belt which wraps around the body like a belt, with loops into which the dorsal fin and side fins can fit. This will hold the seat in place and prevent it from sagging and turning. (Yes, fish skin is very slippery). Reins for controlling direction work well too.
If the fish is ridden underwater too, you have a serious issue with water resistance. The saddle would be modified to allow the rider to lie down on the fish's back. He/she may need to strap his/her waist to the saddle and the feet holding on to the stirrups, which are strapped to the saddle. The rider needs to release him/herself quickly for air, in case the fish does not rise to the surface for a reason.
Saddle parts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddle#/media/File%3AEnglishSaddleParts.png
Can be modified to suit the task.
answered 7 hours ago
Christmas SnowChristmas Snow
3,2925 silver badges19 bronze badges
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If humans ride it strictly on the surface, a saddle-like seat made out of vines is a good anti-slip material for the rider. The contraption is a belt which wraps around the body like a belt, with loops into which the dorsal fin and side fins can fit. This will hold the seat in place and prevent it from sagging and turning. (Yes, fish skin is very slippery). Reins for controlling direction work well too.
If the fish is ridden underwater too, you have a serious issue with water resistance. The saddle would be modified to allow the rider to lie down on the fish's back. He/she may need to strap his/her waist to the saddle and the feet holding on to the stirrups, which are strapped to the saddle. The rider needs to release him/herself quickly for air, in case the fish does not rise to the surface for a reason.
Saddle parts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddle#/media/File%3AEnglishSaddleParts.png
Can be modified to suit the task.
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We can't come with a unique solution if you don't define the body shape of the fish.
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– L.Dutch♦
10 hours ago
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You can make leather from fish skin, FYI. There are even commercial enterprises operating today that will sell you stuff made from it.
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– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
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Also, when you say "ride", what will be doing the riding, and in what environment? A humanoid biped, riding at the surface? Something else riding at the surface? "riding" under the water? You're gonna need to be a bit more detailed here!
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– Starfish Prime
10 hours ago
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Who is doing the riding ? Are they water or air breathers or amphibians ? Do they have legs (how many ?), arms, hands, claws, suction cups ? If there are no mammals this suggests they (the riders) are also not mammals so what are they ?
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– StephenG
10 hours ago
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Do your fish have a slime coat like literally all real world fish? Do they have smooth or rough skin like a shark?
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– stix
8 hours ago