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The Logo programming language was created by researchers at MIT's AI Lab. Its post-1980s use has been predominately in the educational field, but is this was the language was originally designed for?



The PDP-11 assembly contains numerous references to a "real turtle" and a "display turtle". Since tortoises, an analogue precursor to turtles, were originally developed as a demonstration on cognition, the MIT AI Lab might've wanted to explore (potentially more powerful) digital implementations – was this what the language was originally designed for?



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The Logo programming language was created by researchers at MIT's AI Lab. Its post-1980s use has been predominately in the educational field, but is this was the language was originally designed for?



The PDP-11 assembly contains numerous references to a "real turtle" and a "display turtle". Since tortoises, an analogue precursor to turtles, were originally developed as a demonstration on cognition, the MIT AI Lab might've wanted to explore (potentially more powerful) digital implementations – was this what the language was originally designed for?



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The Logo programming language was created by researchers at MIT's AI Lab. Its post-1980s use has been predominately in the educational field, but is this was the language was originally designed for?



The PDP-11 assembly contains numerous references to a "real turtle" and a "display turtle". Since tortoises, an analogue precursor to turtles, were originally developed as a demonstration on cognition, the MIT AI Lab might've wanted to explore (potentially more powerful) digital implementations – was this what the language was originally designed for?



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The Logo programming language was created by researchers at MIT's AI Lab. Its post-1980s use has been predominately in the educational field, but is this was the language was originally designed for?



The PDP-11 assembly contains numerous references to a "real turtle" and a "display turtle". Since tortoises, an analogue precursor to turtles, were originally developed as a demonstration on cognition, the MIT AI Lab might've wanted to explore (potentially more powerful) digital implementations – was this what the language was originally designed for?



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By 'tortoise' are you referring to the sort of thing that William Grey Walter built?

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By 'tortoise' are you referring to the sort of thing that William Grey Walter built?

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LOGO was intimately tied up with research into educational methods, and in teaching children how to use computers.



The project proposal by Seymour Papert mentions "research on children's thinking and elementary education".



Further LOGO memos are found here.



The question remains is, is this what the language was "originally" for, or was the language co-opted for the educational research project?



My reading of this page on the history of LOGO says that it's been intended as an educational tool all along, but there's still some wiggle-room in interpretation.



Edited to add: this page at the MIT Media Lab in memory of Papert says that "Papert came up with the idea for Logo, the first programming language for children". Assuming it to be accurate, and since it has the air of an 'official' posting it probably is, that seems to answer the question.






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    The language was conceived to teach concepts of programming related to
    Lisp and only later to enable what Papert called "body-syntonic
    reasoning", where students could understand, predict, and reason about
    the turtle's motion by imagining what they would do if they were the
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      Agreed - the way I was taught about it (back in the dark ages) was that it was expressly intended for teaching programming concepts to children.

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      With no citation, contradicted by the first paragraph of the "History" section which (ambiguously) posits AI, logic and "a mathematical land where children could play with words and sentences" as goals. I'm looking for answers with citations or authority, since I can't readily identify speculation / apocrypha.

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    • @another-dave me too indeed ...

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    LOGO was intimately tied up with research into educational methods, and in teaching children how to use computers.



    The project proposal by Seymour Papert mentions "research on children's thinking and elementary education".



    Further LOGO memos are found here.



    The question remains is, is this what the language was "originally" for, or was the language co-opted for the educational research project?



    My reading of this page on the history of LOGO says that it's been intended as an educational tool all along, but there's still some wiggle-room in interpretation.



    Edited to add: this page at the MIT Media Lab in memory of Papert says that "Papert came up with the idea for Logo, the first programming language for children". Assuming it to be accurate, and since it has the air of an 'official' posting it probably is, that seems to answer the question.






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      LOGO was intimately tied up with research into educational methods, and in teaching children how to use computers.



      The project proposal by Seymour Papert mentions "research on children's thinking and elementary education".



      Further LOGO memos are found here.



      The question remains is, is this what the language was "originally" for, or was the language co-opted for the educational research project?



      My reading of this page on the history of LOGO says that it's been intended as an educational tool all along, but there's still some wiggle-room in interpretation.



      Edited to add: this page at the MIT Media Lab in memory of Papert says that "Papert came up with the idea for Logo, the first programming language for children". Assuming it to be accurate, and since it has the air of an 'official' posting it probably is, that seems to answer the question.






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        LOGO was intimately tied up with research into educational methods, and in teaching children how to use computers.



        The project proposal by Seymour Papert mentions "research on children's thinking and elementary education".



        Further LOGO memos are found here.



        The question remains is, is this what the language was "originally" for, or was the language co-opted for the educational research project?



        My reading of this page on the history of LOGO says that it's been intended as an educational tool all along, but there's still some wiggle-room in interpretation.



        Edited to add: this page at the MIT Media Lab in memory of Papert says that "Papert came up with the idea for Logo, the first programming language for children". Assuming it to be accurate, and since it has the air of an 'official' posting it probably is, that seems to answer the question.






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        LOGO was intimately tied up with research into educational methods, and in teaching children how to use computers.



        The project proposal by Seymour Papert mentions "research on children's thinking and elementary education".



        Further LOGO memos are found here.



        The question remains is, is this what the language was "originally" for, or was the language co-opted for the educational research project?



        My reading of this page on the history of LOGO says that it's been intended as an educational tool all along, but there's still some wiggle-room in interpretation.



        Edited to add: this page at the MIT Media Lab in memory of Papert says that "Papert came up with the idea for Logo, the first programming language for children". Assuming it to be accurate, and since it has the air of an 'official' posting it probably is, that seems to answer the question.







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            According to Wikipedia: Logo, second paragraph fragment




            The language was conceived to teach concepts of programming related to
            Lisp and only later to enable what Papert called "body-syntonic
            reasoning", where students could understand, predict, and reason about
            the turtle's motion by imagining what they would do if they were the
            turtle.







            share|improve this answer




















            • 2





              Agreed - the way I was taught about it (back in the dark ages) was that it was expressly intended for teaching programming concepts to children.

              – another-dave
              8 hours ago






            • 1





              With no citation, contradicted by the first paragraph of the "History" section which (ambiguously) posits AI, logic and "a mathematical land where children could play with words and sentences" as goals. I'm looking for answers with citations or authority, since I can't readily identify speculation / apocrypha.

              – wizzwizz4
              8 hours ago












            • @another-dave me too indeed ...

              – Michel Keijzers
              7 hours ago











            • @wizzwizz4 I can imagine, I also don't know more than what is written in wikipedia.

              – Michel Keijzers
              7 hours ago















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            According to Wikipedia: Logo, second paragraph fragment




            The language was conceived to teach concepts of programming related to
            Lisp and only later to enable what Papert called "body-syntonic
            reasoning", where students could understand, predict, and reason about
            the turtle's motion by imagining what they would do if they were the
            turtle.







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              Agreed - the way I was taught about it (back in the dark ages) was that it was expressly intended for teaching programming concepts to children.

              – another-dave
              8 hours ago






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              With no citation, contradicted by the first paragraph of the "History" section which (ambiguously) posits AI, logic and "a mathematical land where children could play with words and sentences" as goals. I'm looking for answers with citations or authority, since I can't readily identify speculation / apocrypha.

              – wizzwizz4
              8 hours ago












            • @another-dave me too indeed ...

              – Michel Keijzers
              7 hours ago











            • @wizzwizz4 I can imagine, I also don't know more than what is written in wikipedia.

              – Michel Keijzers
              7 hours ago













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            According to Wikipedia: Logo, second paragraph fragment




            The language was conceived to teach concepts of programming related to
            Lisp and only later to enable what Papert called "body-syntonic
            reasoning", where students could understand, predict, and reason about
            the turtle's motion by imagining what they would do if they were the
            turtle.







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            According to Wikipedia: Logo, second paragraph fragment




            The language was conceived to teach concepts of programming related to
            Lisp and only later to enable what Papert called "body-syntonic
            reasoning", where students could understand, predict, and reason about
            the turtle's motion by imagining what they would do if they were the
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              Agreed - the way I was taught about it (back in the dark ages) was that it was expressly intended for teaching programming concepts to children.

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              With no citation, contradicted by the first paragraph of the "History" section which (ambiguously) posits AI, logic and "a mathematical land where children could play with words and sentences" as goals. I'm looking for answers with citations or authority, since I can't readily identify speculation / apocrypha.

              – wizzwizz4
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            • @another-dave me too indeed ...

              – Michel Keijzers
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            • @wizzwizz4 I can imagine, I also don't know more than what is written in wikipedia.

              – Michel Keijzers
              7 hours ago












            • 2





              Agreed - the way I was taught about it (back in the dark ages) was that it was expressly intended for teaching programming concepts to children.

              – another-dave
              8 hours ago






            • 1





              With no citation, contradicted by the first paragraph of the "History" section which (ambiguously) posits AI, logic and "a mathematical land where children could play with words and sentences" as goals. I'm looking for answers with citations or authority, since I can't readily identify speculation / apocrypha.

              – wizzwizz4
              8 hours ago












            • @another-dave me too indeed ...

              – Michel Keijzers
              7 hours ago











            • @wizzwizz4 I can imagine, I also don't know more than what is written in wikipedia.

              – Michel Keijzers
              7 hours ago







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            Agreed - the way I was taught about it (back in the dark ages) was that it was expressly intended for teaching programming concepts to children.

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            Agreed - the way I was taught about it (back in the dark ages) was that it was expressly intended for teaching programming concepts to children.

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            With no citation, contradicted by the first paragraph of the "History" section which (ambiguously) posits AI, logic and "a mathematical land where children could play with words and sentences" as goals. I'm looking for answers with citations or authority, since I can't readily identify speculation / apocrypha.

            – wizzwizz4
            8 hours ago






            With no citation, contradicted by the first paragraph of the "History" section which (ambiguously) posits AI, logic and "a mathematical land where children could play with words and sentences" as goals. I'm looking for answers with citations or authority, since I can't readily identify speculation / apocrypha.

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