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Does sick day affect probation?


Probation period extended by new managerIs it acceptable or normal to request accommodations due to coworkers being sick around you?Can quitting during probation be viewed as negative by future employersIt seems as though my employer wants me to come into work when I'm ill. Am I missing something?Am I compelled to take sick days?Probation Period UKDismissed long after probation periodEmployer is trying to fire me after I have resignedProbation period extendedDoes attending an appointment at a hospital count as sick leave for the purposes of a contract that pays for sick days?






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I am just one month into a 6 months probation, where my work is very tough as I am trying to catch up on a matured project with little to no help on how and where to, all I get is "look at other examples". It has send me into a worry state which is affecting my health every now and then.



Does sick day on probation affect the outcome? Given one is trying to cope up, take extra time to finish a task because he/she are new to project and help is limited. I have 1-1 with manager, he might bring all these things up. Can taking sick leave be a reason for my termination? Although my manager says in email "to take good care"










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  • That depends on (1) jurisdiction (2) this particular company policy. Questions about both of these generally fall outside of scope of this site.

    – Mirek Długosz
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:01






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    @MirosławZalewski As this is tagged "united-kingdom", it's fairly easy - your employment can be terminated for any reason or none (excluding a very small set of reasons - sex, race, etc) if you've been employed for less than two years. This falls under "stuff every HR manager will know" so I think is on topic here.

    – Philip Kendall
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:17












  • @PhilipKendall It didn't have "united-kingdom" tag when I posted my comment.

    – Mirek Długosz
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  • @PhilipKendall As always with the UK, this is far from easy. Unfair dismissal only becomes a thing after 2 years but a wrongful dismissal or a discrimination claim doesn't have a grace period. (Summary here). And that's without even going into the possibility of the OP's employer hiding illness as a reason for a failed probation. I'm not sure there's answer that can be given here beyond "Yes it might and you have no way of knowing for sure in advance or after the fact."

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 12:17











  • Sorry, but this sounds much like your job is pushing you into depression. If your manager/team doesn't support your training and even stresses you out, there might be a better place to work, especially better for your health. Best wishes for you.

    – Kinaeh
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I am just one month into a 6 months probation, where my work is very tough as I am trying to catch up on a matured project with little to no help on how and where to, all I get is "look at other examples". It has send me into a worry state which is affecting my health every now and then.



Does sick day on probation affect the outcome? Given one is trying to cope up, take extra time to finish a task because he/she are new to project and help is limited. I have 1-1 with manager, he might bring all these things up. Can taking sick leave be a reason for my termination? Although my manager says in email "to take good care"










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  • That depends on (1) jurisdiction (2) this particular company policy. Questions about both of these generally fall outside of scope of this site.

    – Mirek Długosz
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:01






  • 3





    @MirosławZalewski As this is tagged "united-kingdom", it's fairly easy - your employment can be terminated for any reason or none (excluding a very small set of reasons - sex, race, etc) if you've been employed for less than two years. This falls under "stuff every HR manager will know" so I think is on topic here.

    – Philip Kendall
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:17












  • @PhilipKendall It didn't have "united-kingdom" tag when I posted my comment.

    – Mirek Długosz
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:20











  • @PhilipKendall As always with the UK, this is far from easy. Unfair dismissal only becomes a thing after 2 years but a wrongful dismissal or a discrimination claim doesn't have a grace period. (Summary here). And that's without even going into the possibility of the OP's employer hiding illness as a reason for a failed probation. I'm not sure there's answer that can be given here beyond "Yes it might and you have no way of knowing for sure in advance or after the fact."

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 12:17











  • Sorry, but this sounds much like your job is pushing you into depression. If your manager/team doesn't support your training and even stresses you out, there might be a better place to work, especially better for your health. Best wishes for you.

    – Kinaeh
    Feb 6 '18 at 8:01













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I am just one month into a 6 months probation, where my work is very tough as I am trying to catch up on a matured project with little to no help on how and where to, all I get is "look at other examples". It has send me into a worry state which is affecting my health every now and then.



Does sick day on probation affect the outcome? Given one is trying to cope up, take extra time to finish a task because he/she are new to project and help is limited. I have 1-1 with manager, he might bring all these things up. Can taking sick leave be a reason for my termination? Although my manager says in email "to take good care"










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I am just one month into a 6 months probation, where my work is very tough as I am trying to catch up on a matured project with little to no help on how and where to, all I get is "look at other examples". It has send me into a worry state which is affecting my health every now and then.



Does sick day on probation affect the outcome? Given one is trying to cope up, take extra time to finish a task because he/she are new to project and help is limited. I have 1-1 with manager, he might bring all these things up. Can taking sick leave be a reason for my termination? Although my manager says in email "to take good care"







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  • That depends on (1) jurisdiction (2) this particular company policy. Questions about both of these generally fall outside of scope of this site.

    – Mirek Długosz
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:01






  • 3





    @MirosławZalewski As this is tagged "united-kingdom", it's fairly easy - your employment can be terminated for any reason or none (excluding a very small set of reasons - sex, race, etc) if you've been employed for less than two years. This falls under "stuff every HR manager will know" so I think is on topic here.

    – Philip Kendall
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:17












  • @PhilipKendall It didn't have "united-kingdom" tag when I posted my comment.

    – Mirek Długosz
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:20











  • @PhilipKendall As always with the UK, this is far from easy. Unfair dismissal only becomes a thing after 2 years but a wrongful dismissal or a discrimination claim doesn't have a grace period. (Summary here). And that's without even going into the possibility of the OP's employer hiding illness as a reason for a failed probation. I'm not sure there's answer that can be given here beyond "Yes it might and you have no way of knowing for sure in advance or after the fact."

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 12:17











  • Sorry, but this sounds much like your job is pushing you into depression. If your manager/team doesn't support your training and even stresses you out, there might be a better place to work, especially better for your health. Best wishes for you.

    – Kinaeh
    Feb 6 '18 at 8:01

















  • That depends on (1) jurisdiction (2) this particular company policy. Questions about both of these generally fall outside of scope of this site.

    – Mirek Długosz
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:01






  • 3





    @MirosławZalewski As this is tagged "united-kingdom", it's fairly easy - your employment can be terminated for any reason or none (excluding a very small set of reasons - sex, race, etc) if you've been employed for less than two years. This falls under "stuff every HR manager will know" so I think is on topic here.

    – Philip Kendall
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:17












  • @PhilipKendall It didn't have "united-kingdom" tag when I posted my comment.

    – Mirek Długosz
    Feb 5 '18 at 11:20











  • @PhilipKendall As always with the UK, this is far from easy. Unfair dismissal only becomes a thing after 2 years but a wrongful dismissal or a discrimination claim doesn't have a grace period. (Summary here). And that's without even going into the possibility of the OP's employer hiding illness as a reason for a failed probation. I'm not sure there's answer that can be given here beyond "Yes it might and you have no way of knowing for sure in advance or after the fact."

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 12:17











  • Sorry, but this sounds much like your job is pushing you into depression. If your manager/team doesn't support your training and even stresses you out, there might be a better place to work, especially better for your health. Best wishes for you.

    – Kinaeh
    Feb 6 '18 at 8:01
















That depends on (1) jurisdiction (2) this particular company policy. Questions about both of these generally fall outside of scope of this site.

– Mirek Długosz
Feb 5 '18 at 11:01





That depends on (1) jurisdiction (2) this particular company policy. Questions about both of these generally fall outside of scope of this site.

– Mirek Długosz
Feb 5 '18 at 11:01




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@MirosławZalewski As this is tagged "united-kingdom", it's fairly easy - your employment can be terminated for any reason or none (excluding a very small set of reasons - sex, race, etc) if you've been employed for less than two years. This falls under "stuff every HR manager will know" so I think is on topic here.

– Philip Kendall
Feb 5 '18 at 11:17






@MirosławZalewski As this is tagged "united-kingdom", it's fairly easy - your employment can be terminated for any reason or none (excluding a very small set of reasons - sex, race, etc) if you've been employed for less than two years. This falls under "stuff every HR manager will know" so I think is on topic here.

– Philip Kendall
Feb 5 '18 at 11:17














@PhilipKendall It didn't have "united-kingdom" tag when I posted my comment.

– Mirek Długosz
Feb 5 '18 at 11:20





@PhilipKendall It didn't have "united-kingdom" tag when I posted my comment.

– Mirek Długosz
Feb 5 '18 at 11:20













@PhilipKendall As always with the UK, this is far from easy. Unfair dismissal only becomes a thing after 2 years but a wrongful dismissal or a discrimination claim doesn't have a grace period. (Summary here). And that's without even going into the possibility of the OP's employer hiding illness as a reason for a failed probation. I'm not sure there's answer that can be given here beyond "Yes it might and you have no way of knowing for sure in advance or after the fact."

– Lilienthal
Feb 5 '18 at 12:17





@PhilipKendall As always with the UK, this is far from easy. Unfair dismissal only becomes a thing after 2 years but a wrongful dismissal or a discrimination claim doesn't have a grace period. (Summary here). And that's without even going into the possibility of the OP's employer hiding illness as a reason for a failed probation. I'm not sure there's answer that can be given here beyond "Yes it might and you have no way of knowing for sure in advance or after the fact."

– Lilienthal
Feb 5 '18 at 12:17













Sorry, but this sounds much like your job is pushing you into depression. If your manager/team doesn't support your training and even stresses you out, there might be a better place to work, especially better for your health. Best wishes for you.

– Kinaeh
Feb 6 '18 at 8:01





Sorry, but this sounds much like your job is pushing you into depression. If your manager/team doesn't support your training and even stresses you out, there might be a better place to work, especially better for your health. Best wishes for you.

– Kinaeh
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This is a question for your manager. If you caught something contagious, you'd be protecting the company by taking a few days off and not spreading it; but it sounds like your issue is stress related.



Pro tip: When you look at other examples, take a few moments to compile notes on what you find. You'll start building a knowledge base which will become amazingly handy in the future, for you and other potential future hires. It'll also work wonders for your image, especially when the documentation culture tends to anarchy.



It's always a good idea to ask your manager how things are going and if you're meeting expectations, especially when you're new. Your success is your manager's success, and his job is help you do that. Asking how taking a day off or two will be perceived is perfectly pertinent.




Can taking sick leave be a reason for my termination




<IANAL>



Gov.uk states:




Sometimes an employee may have to stop working because of long-term ill health. They may resign, or you may have to consider dismissing them



[...]



If the employee can’t do their job because there are no reasonable adjustments that can be made, it may be fair for you to dismiss them, even if they’re disabled




This is clearly written for cases where the employee cannot perform their duties due to long-term illness, and no reasonable accommodation can be made for them (ie. not your case).



</IANAL>




tl;dr Ask your manager






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    How do you imagine this conversation going? What makes you think an employer who has decided to dismiss an employee for such a potentially litigious reason as illness will actually tell their employee that?

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 12:19











  • @Lilienthal I assume the employer is reasonable and will act so. I don't imagine the manager will be very happy, but if he knows what he's doing he'll work with OP to manage each other's expectations, workload, etc. If it's policy to fire people for anything less than a hospital visit, he can warn the OP. We require that you bring a doctor's note, or similar bureaucratic stuff should also be communicated.

    – rath
    Feb 5 '18 at 14:23







  • 1





    OP's first paragraph certainly doesn't make me think their manager is reasonable or even competent. How to approach this subject with a manager would be a question all on its own since there are good and terrible ways of bringing this subject up. You'd come at it from the perspective "I feel terrible that I'm having to take so much sick leave so early and I know it's affecting my work but this isn't normal for me and I want to do what I can to mitigate the impact." Not: "You can't fire me for taking sick leave, right?"

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This is a question for your manager. If you caught something contagious, you'd be protecting the company by taking a few days off and not spreading it; but it sounds like your issue is stress related.



Pro tip: When you look at other examples, take a few moments to compile notes on what you find. You'll start building a knowledge base which will become amazingly handy in the future, for you and other potential future hires. It'll also work wonders for your image, especially when the documentation culture tends to anarchy.



It's always a good idea to ask your manager how things are going and if you're meeting expectations, especially when you're new. Your success is your manager's success, and his job is help you do that. Asking how taking a day off or two will be perceived is perfectly pertinent.




Can taking sick leave be a reason for my termination




<IANAL>



Gov.uk states:




Sometimes an employee may have to stop working because of long-term ill health. They may resign, or you may have to consider dismissing them



[...]



If the employee can’t do their job because there are no reasonable adjustments that can be made, it may be fair for you to dismiss them, even if they’re disabled




This is clearly written for cases where the employee cannot perform their duties due to long-term illness, and no reasonable accommodation can be made for them (ie. not your case).



</IANAL>




tl;dr Ask your manager






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    How do you imagine this conversation going? What makes you think an employer who has decided to dismiss an employee for such a potentially litigious reason as illness will actually tell their employee that?

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 12:19











  • @Lilienthal I assume the employer is reasonable and will act so. I don't imagine the manager will be very happy, but if he knows what he's doing he'll work with OP to manage each other's expectations, workload, etc. If it's policy to fire people for anything less than a hospital visit, he can warn the OP. We require that you bring a doctor's note, or similar bureaucratic stuff should also be communicated.

    – rath
    Feb 5 '18 at 14:23







  • 1





    OP's first paragraph certainly doesn't make me think their manager is reasonable or even competent. How to approach this subject with a manager would be a question all on its own since there are good and terrible ways of bringing this subject up. You'd come at it from the perspective "I feel terrible that I'm having to take so much sick leave so early and I know it's affecting my work but this isn't normal for me and I want to do what I can to mitigate the impact." Not: "You can't fire me for taking sick leave, right?"

    – Lilienthal
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This is a question for your manager. If you caught something contagious, you'd be protecting the company by taking a few days off and not spreading it; but it sounds like your issue is stress related.



Pro tip: When you look at other examples, take a few moments to compile notes on what you find. You'll start building a knowledge base which will become amazingly handy in the future, for you and other potential future hires. It'll also work wonders for your image, especially when the documentation culture tends to anarchy.



It's always a good idea to ask your manager how things are going and if you're meeting expectations, especially when you're new. Your success is your manager's success, and his job is help you do that. Asking how taking a day off or two will be perceived is perfectly pertinent.




Can taking sick leave be a reason for my termination




<IANAL>



Gov.uk states:




Sometimes an employee may have to stop working because of long-term ill health. They may resign, or you may have to consider dismissing them



[...]



If the employee can’t do their job because there are no reasonable adjustments that can be made, it may be fair for you to dismiss them, even if they’re disabled




This is clearly written for cases where the employee cannot perform their duties due to long-term illness, and no reasonable accommodation can be made for them (ie. not your case).



</IANAL>




tl;dr Ask your manager






share|improve this answer






















  • 2





    How do you imagine this conversation going? What makes you think an employer who has decided to dismiss an employee for such a potentially litigious reason as illness will actually tell their employee that?

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 12:19











  • @Lilienthal I assume the employer is reasonable and will act so. I don't imagine the manager will be very happy, but if he knows what he's doing he'll work with OP to manage each other's expectations, workload, etc. If it's policy to fire people for anything less than a hospital visit, he can warn the OP. We require that you bring a doctor's note, or similar bureaucratic stuff should also be communicated.

    – rath
    Feb 5 '18 at 14:23







  • 1





    OP's first paragraph certainly doesn't make me think their manager is reasonable or even competent. How to approach this subject with a manager would be a question all on its own since there are good and terrible ways of bringing this subject up. You'd come at it from the perspective "I feel terrible that I'm having to take so much sick leave so early and I know it's affecting my work but this isn't normal for me and I want to do what I can to mitigate the impact." Not: "You can't fire me for taking sick leave, right?"

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 14:33














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This is a question for your manager. If you caught something contagious, you'd be protecting the company by taking a few days off and not spreading it; but it sounds like your issue is stress related.



Pro tip: When you look at other examples, take a few moments to compile notes on what you find. You'll start building a knowledge base which will become amazingly handy in the future, for you and other potential future hires. It'll also work wonders for your image, especially when the documentation culture tends to anarchy.



It's always a good idea to ask your manager how things are going and if you're meeting expectations, especially when you're new. Your success is your manager's success, and his job is help you do that. Asking how taking a day off or two will be perceived is perfectly pertinent.




Can taking sick leave be a reason for my termination




<IANAL>



Gov.uk states:




Sometimes an employee may have to stop working because of long-term ill health. They may resign, or you may have to consider dismissing them



[...]



If the employee can’t do their job because there are no reasonable adjustments that can be made, it may be fair for you to dismiss them, even if they’re disabled




This is clearly written for cases where the employee cannot perform their duties due to long-term illness, and no reasonable accommodation can be made for them (ie. not your case).



</IANAL>




tl;dr Ask your manager






share|improve this answer















This is a question for your manager. If you caught something contagious, you'd be protecting the company by taking a few days off and not spreading it; but it sounds like your issue is stress related.



Pro tip: When you look at other examples, take a few moments to compile notes on what you find. You'll start building a knowledge base which will become amazingly handy in the future, for you and other potential future hires. It'll also work wonders for your image, especially when the documentation culture tends to anarchy.



It's always a good idea to ask your manager how things are going and if you're meeting expectations, especially when you're new. Your success is your manager's success, and his job is help you do that. Asking how taking a day off or two will be perceived is perfectly pertinent.




Can taking sick leave be a reason for my termination




<IANAL>



Gov.uk states:




Sometimes an employee may have to stop working because of long-term ill health. They may resign, or you may have to consider dismissing them



[...]



If the employee can’t do their job because there are no reasonable adjustments that can be made, it may be fair for you to dismiss them, even if they’re disabled




This is clearly written for cases where the employee cannot perform their duties due to long-term illness, and no reasonable accommodation can be made for them (ie. not your case).



</IANAL>




tl;dr Ask your manager







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    How do you imagine this conversation going? What makes you think an employer who has decided to dismiss an employee for such a potentially litigious reason as illness will actually tell their employee that?

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 12:19











  • @Lilienthal I assume the employer is reasonable and will act so. I don't imagine the manager will be very happy, but if he knows what he's doing he'll work with OP to manage each other's expectations, workload, etc. If it's policy to fire people for anything less than a hospital visit, he can warn the OP. We require that you bring a doctor's note, or similar bureaucratic stuff should also be communicated.

    – rath
    Feb 5 '18 at 14:23







  • 1





    OP's first paragraph certainly doesn't make me think their manager is reasonable or even competent. How to approach this subject with a manager would be a question all on its own since there are good and terrible ways of bringing this subject up. You'd come at it from the perspective "I feel terrible that I'm having to take so much sick leave so early and I know it's affecting my work but this isn't normal for me and I want to do what I can to mitigate the impact." Not: "You can't fire me for taking sick leave, right?"

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 14:33













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    How do you imagine this conversation going? What makes you think an employer who has decided to dismiss an employee for such a potentially litigious reason as illness will actually tell their employee that?

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 12:19











  • @Lilienthal I assume the employer is reasonable and will act so. I don't imagine the manager will be very happy, but if he knows what he's doing he'll work with OP to manage each other's expectations, workload, etc. If it's policy to fire people for anything less than a hospital visit, he can warn the OP. We require that you bring a doctor's note, or similar bureaucratic stuff should also be communicated.

    – rath
    Feb 5 '18 at 14:23







  • 1





    OP's first paragraph certainly doesn't make me think their manager is reasonable or even competent. How to approach this subject with a manager would be a question all on its own since there are good and terrible ways of bringing this subject up. You'd come at it from the perspective "I feel terrible that I'm having to take so much sick leave so early and I know it's affecting my work but this isn't normal for me and I want to do what I can to mitigate the impact." Not: "You can't fire me for taking sick leave, right?"

    – Lilienthal
    Feb 5 '18 at 14:33








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How do you imagine this conversation going? What makes you think an employer who has decided to dismiss an employee for such a potentially litigious reason as illness will actually tell their employee that?

– Lilienthal
Feb 5 '18 at 12:19





How do you imagine this conversation going? What makes you think an employer who has decided to dismiss an employee for such a potentially litigious reason as illness will actually tell their employee that?

– Lilienthal
Feb 5 '18 at 12:19













@Lilienthal I assume the employer is reasonable and will act so. I don't imagine the manager will be very happy, but if he knows what he's doing he'll work with OP to manage each other's expectations, workload, etc. If it's policy to fire people for anything less than a hospital visit, he can warn the OP. We require that you bring a doctor's note, or similar bureaucratic stuff should also be communicated.

– rath
Feb 5 '18 at 14:23






@Lilienthal I assume the employer is reasonable and will act so. I don't imagine the manager will be very happy, but if he knows what he's doing he'll work with OP to manage each other's expectations, workload, etc. If it's policy to fire people for anything less than a hospital visit, he can warn the OP. We require that you bring a doctor's note, or similar bureaucratic stuff should also be communicated.

– rath
Feb 5 '18 at 14:23





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OP's first paragraph certainly doesn't make me think their manager is reasonable or even competent. How to approach this subject with a manager would be a question all on its own since there are good and terrible ways of bringing this subject up. You'd come at it from the perspective "I feel terrible that I'm having to take so much sick leave so early and I know it's affecting my work but this isn't normal for me and I want to do what I can to mitigate the impact." Not: "You can't fire me for taking sick leave, right?"

– Lilienthal
Feb 5 '18 at 14:33






OP's first paragraph certainly doesn't make me think their manager is reasonable or even competent. How to approach this subject with a manager would be a question all on its own since there are good and terrible ways of bringing this subject up. You'd come at it from the perspective "I feel terrible that I'm having to take so much sick leave so early and I know it's affecting my work but this isn't normal for me and I want to do what I can to mitigate the impact." Not: "You can't fire me for taking sick leave, right?"

– Lilienthal
Feb 5 '18 at 14:33



















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