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Is there any benefit to riders on the front of a paceline?
Does drafting cause resistance to the lead rider?Does drafting cause resistance to the lead rider?What are the most significant factors affecting downhill cruising speed?Does group riding negate the aero benefit of deep rim wheels?Riding into a headwind faster than my top speed - how is it possible?Can it be estimated when it would actually be beneficial to increase drag in tailwind?How does hub diameter affect aerodynamics?What position of saddle is best?What's the best way to shield a rider from the wind in a group (most aero position in the group)?Why aren't road bicycle wheels tiny?
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You can save a lot on air resistance by drafting a rider closely, i.e. riding close to their rear wheel.
What about the rider in front? Is there a benefit, a loss, or is there no difference?
Edit - is there any way or position ensuring front cannot feel any energy loss while you enjoy resting behind or speedup ?
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You can save a lot on air resistance by drafting a rider closely, i.e. riding close to their rear wheel.
What about the rider in front? Is there a benefit, a loss, or is there no difference?
Edit - is there any way or position ensuring front cannot feel any energy loss while you enjoy resting behind or speedup ?
aerodynamics
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Yes, I've heard/read that the front biker has some benefit too. Can't explain it properly, so I'll let others do that ;-)
– Terry Seidler
9 hours ago
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Sorry found it is a duplicate while looking if tag match question here is very similar one bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/10069/…
– Tom
8 hours ago
Strange is 2nd can fill 1st's gap sucking him back, but in practice you can see hard pedalling front and you may even not pedal at all sometimes having a bit better bike, so you feel you are pulled front by his gap ;-)
– Tom
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Possible duplicate of Does drafting cause resistance to the lead rider?
– R. Chung
7 hours ago
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You can save a lot on air resistance by drafting a rider closely, i.e. riding close to their rear wheel.
What about the rider in front? Is there a benefit, a loss, or is there no difference?
Edit - is there any way or position ensuring front cannot feel any energy loss while you enjoy resting behind or speedup ?
aerodynamics
asked 9 hours ago
TomTom
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You can save a lot on air resistance by drafting a rider closely, i.e. riding close to their rear wheel.
What about the rider in front? Is there a benefit, a loss, or is there no difference?
Edit - is there any way or position ensuring front cannot feel any energy loss while you enjoy resting behind or speedup ?
aerodynamics
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Yes, I've heard/read that the front biker has some benefit too. Can't explain it properly, so I'll let others do that ;-)
– Terry Seidler
9 hours ago
2
Sorry found it is a duplicate while looking if tag match question here is very similar one bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/10069/…
– Tom
8 hours ago
Strange is 2nd can fill 1st's gap sucking him back, but in practice you can see hard pedalling front and you may even not pedal at all sometimes having a bit better bike, so you feel you are pulled front by his gap ;-)
– Tom
8 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Does drafting cause resistance to the lead rider?
– R. Chung
7 hours ago
add a comment
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Yes, I've heard/read that the front biker has some benefit too. Can't explain it properly, so I'll let others do that ;-)
– Terry Seidler
9 hours ago
2
Sorry found it is a duplicate while looking if tag match question here is very similar one bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/10069/…
– Tom
8 hours ago
Strange is 2nd can fill 1st's gap sucking him back, but in practice you can see hard pedalling front and you may even not pedal at all sometimes having a bit better bike, so you feel you are pulled front by his gap ;-)
– Tom
8 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Does drafting cause resistance to the lead rider?
– R. Chung
7 hours ago
Yes, I've heard/read that the front biker has some benefit too. Can't explain it properly, so I'll let others do that ;-)
– Terry Seidler
9 hours ago
Yes, I've heard/read that the front biker has some benefit too. Can't explain it properly, so I'll let others do that ;-)
– Terry Seidler
9 hours ago
2
2
Sorry found it is a duplicate while looking if tag match question here is very similar one bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/10069/…
– Tom
8 hours ago
Sorry found it is a duplicate while looking if tag match question here is very similar one bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/10069/…
– Tom
8 hours ago
Strange is 2nd can fill 1st's gap sucking him back, but in practice you can see hard pedalling front and you may even not pedal at all sometimes having a bit better bike, so you feel you are pulled front by his gap ;-)
– Tom
8 hours ago
Strange is 2nd can fill 1st's gap sucking him back, but in practice you can see hard pedalling front and you may even not pedal at all sometimes having a bit better bike, so you feel you are pulled front by his gap ;-)
– Tom
8 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Does drafting cause resistance to the lead rider?
– R. Chung
7 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Does drafting cause resistance to the lead rider?
– R. Chung
7 hours ago
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Yes, it's small but real. Aerodynamic drag in cycling pelotons: New insights by CFD simulation and wind tunnel testing Journal of Wind Engineering and Industrial Aerodynamics
Volume 179, August 2018 is an interesting paper on the subject, with both theory and experiment. The introduction is a nice summary of previous work, including simpler cases, but many of those papers are inacessible without a university login, unlike the one I've linked.
Figure 9 and Section 3.8 are most of interest, especially Fig. 9b which indicates that a reduction in drag of 4% on the lead rider is possible. Figure 22a shows a simulation leading to an even greater reduction in drag for the front rider.
You can see from the figures in the paper that behind a single rider there's a low-pressure region. You can regard this as sucking the rider backwards. By partially filling this low pressure region with another rider, its effect is reduced.
answered 8 hours ago
Chris HChris H
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In a seminar presentation 3 years ago Bert Blocken said that on a time trial just pushing a rider by a following car could make several seconds. But I didn't the latest paper.
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
@VladimirF that's certainly possible, but I wouldn't like to try the experiment. The car would have to be much too close for the driver to react to any problems
– Chris H
8 hours ago
No, he was speaking about a normal TV or support car if allowed too close (say 10 meters). Edit: It has been published. urbanphysics.net/2015_JWEIA__BB_YT__Car_Cyclist.pdf
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
1
@VladimirF that's still too close for the driver to stop or even slow down much if the cyclist has a problem, given the speeds involved. The paper discusses speeds of 15m/s and separations of 3, 5 and 10m, so the bike and car are 0.2--0.67s apart. That's less than the reaction time of most drivers, even taking into account that the driver of a TV car should be concentrating and trained. And official race cars /motorbikes have hit and killed pro cyclists in recent years.
– Chris H
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I see you're thinking of aerodynamics, but there are other advantages too.
Race-craft, or more specifically Control. If you have a team in the bunch, you can work together to control the whole group. You're in the optimal position to get on the wheel of any break-away attempt and haul it back in. Likewise, you can be in position to "block" any attempt to follow a breakaway rider, if that fits your overall tactics for this race
Even individual riders can control a bunch or paceline from the front, by edging up the average speed and attempt to stress or tire-out other riders.
View as front rider you have a lot more awareness of what's coming up. There's no other bike/rider in front of you to block your view of the road, so you can prepare for changes. It would be very nasty tactics to just skim the edge of a pothole or gravel patch and hope following riders plough into it potentially wiping out competition. Related - if you're further back there's more chance of getting caught in or behind an accident, which adds delay and allows breakaways a chance to gain ground.
Motivation is increased - I know my segment times are improved when I'm being chased/followed by other riders, or by vehicles.
Advertising minor but by being visible, any sponsor logos are also more visible. Any team gets a credibility boost when they control the race from the front.
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But heard will not drag you, seen funny cyclists trying to win air "race" in any case, etc. Just wanted to be sure I am not using their efforts or power resting behind...
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Yes, it's small but real. Aerodynamic drag in cycling pelotons: New insights by CFD simulation and wind tunnel testing Journal of Wind Engineering and Industrial Aerodynamics
Volume 179, August 2018 is an interesting paper on the subject, with both theory and experiment. The introduction is a nice summary of previous work, including simpler cases, but many of those papers are inacessible without a university login, unlike the one I've linked.
Figure 9 and Section 3.8 are most of interest, especially Fig. 9b which indicates that a reduction in drag of 4% on the lead rider is possible. Figure 22a shows a simulation leading to an even greater reduction in drag for the front rider.
You can see from the figures in the paper that behind a single rider there's a low-pressure region. You can regard this as sucking the rider backwards. By partially filling this low pressure region with another rider, its effect is reduced.
answered 8 hours ago
Chris HChris H
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In a seminar presentation 3 years ago Bert Blocken said that on a time trial just pushing a rider by a following car could make several seconds. But I didn't the latest paper.
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
@VladimirF that's certainly possible, but I wouldn't like to try the experiment. The car would have to be much too close for the driver to react to any problems
– Chris H
8 hours ago
No, he was speaking about a normal TV or support car if allowed too close (say 10 meters). Edit: It has been published. urbanphysics.net/2015_JWEIA__BB_YT__Car_Cyclist.pdf
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
1
@VladimirF that's still too close for the driver to stop or even slow down much if the cyclist has a problem, given the speeds involved. The paper discusses speeds of 15m/s and separations of 3, 5 and 10m, so the bike and car are 0.2--0.67s apart. That's less than the reaction time of most drivers, even taking into account that the driver of a TV car should be concentrating and trained. And official race cars /motorbikes have hit and killed pro cyclists in recent years.
– Chris H
8 hours ago
add a comment
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Yes, it's small but real. Aerodynamic drag in cycling pelotons: New insights by CFD simulation and wind tunnel testing Journal of Wind Engineering and Industrial Aerodynamics
Volume 179, August 2018 is an interesting paper on the subject, with both theory and experiment. The introduction is a nice summary of previous work, including simpler cases, but many of those papers are inacessible without a university login, unlike the one I've linked.
Figure 9 and Section 3.8 are most of interest, especially Fig. 9b which indicates that a reduction in drag of 4% on the lead rider is possible. Figure 22a shows a simulation leading to an even greater reduction in drag for the front rider.
You can see from the figures in the paper that behind a single rider there's a low-pressure region. You can regard this as sucking the rider backwards. By partially filling this low pressure region with another rider, its effect is reduced.
answered 8 hours ago
Chris HChris H
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In a seminar presentation 3 years ago Bert Blocken said that on a time trial just pushing a rider by a following car could make several seconds. But I didn't the latest paper.
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
@VladimirF that's certainly possible, but I wouldn't like to try the experiment. The car would have to be much too close for the driver to react to any problems
– Chris H
8 hours ago
No, he was speaking about a normal TV or support car if allowed too close (say 10 meters). Edit: It has been published. urbanphysics.net/2015_JWEIA__BB_YT__Car_Cyclist.pdf
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
1
@VladimirF that's still too close for the driver to stop or even slow down much if the cyclist has a problem, given the speeds involved. The paper discusses speeds of 15m/s and separations of 3, 5 and 10m, so the bike and car are 0.2--0.67s apart. That's less than the reaction time of most drivers, even taking into account that the driver of a TV car should be concentrating and trained. And official race cars /motorbikes have hit and killed pro cyclists in recent years.
– Chris H
8 hours ago
add a comment
|
Yes, it's small but real. Aerodynamic drag in cycling pelotons: New insights by CFD simulation and wind tunnel testing Journal of Wind Engineering and Industrial Aerodynamics
Volume 179, August 2018 is an interesting paper on the subject, with both theory and experiment. The introduction is a nice summary of previous work, including simpler cases, but many of those papers are inacessible without a university login, unlike the one I've linked.
Figure 9 and Section 3.8 are most of interest, especially Fig. 9b which indicates that a reduction in drag of 4% on the lead rider is possible. Figure 22a shows a simulation leading to an even greater reduction in drag for the front rider.
You can see from the figures in the paper that behind a single rider there's a low-pressure region. You can regard this as sucking the rider backwards. By partially filling this low pressure region with another rider, its effect is reduced.
answered 8 hours ago
Chris HChris H
27.4k1 gold badge42 silver badges125 bronze badges
Yes, it's small but real. Aerodynamic drag in cycling pelotons: New insights by CFD simulation and wind tunnel testing Journal of Wind Engineering and Industrial Aerodynamics
Volume 179, August 2018 is an interesting paper on the subject, with both theory and experiment. The introduction is a nice summary of previous work, including simpler cases, but many of those papers are inacessible without a university login, unlike the one I've linked.
Figure 9 and Section 3.8 are most of interest, especially Fig. 9b which indicates that a reduction in drag of 4% on the lead rider is possible. Figure 22a shows a simulation leading to an even greater reduction in drag for the front rider.
You can see from the figures in the paper that behind a single rider there's a low-pressure region. You can regard this as sucking the rider backwards. By partially filling this low pressure region with another rider, its effect is reduced.
answered 8 hours ago
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answered 8 hours ago
Chris HChris H
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answered 8 hours ago
Chris HChris H
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answered 8 hours ago
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In a seminar presentation 3 years ago Bert Blocken said that on a time trial just pushing a rider by a following car could make several seconds. But I didn't the latest paper.
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
@VladimirF that's certainly possible, but I wouldn't like to try the experiment. The car would have to be much too close for the driver to react to any problems
– Chris H
8 hours ago
No, he was speaking about a normal TV or support car if allowed too close (say 10 meters). Edit: It has been published. urbanphysics.net/2015_JWEIA__BB_YT__Car_Cyclist.pdf
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
1
@VladimirF that's still too close for the driver to stop or even slow down much if the cyclist has a problem, given the speeds involved. The paper discusses speeds of 15m/s and separations of 3, 5 and 10m, so the bike and car are 0.2--0.67s apart. That's less than the reaction time of most drivers, even taking into account that the driver of a TV car should be concentrating and trained. And official race cars /motorbikes have hit and killed pro cyclists in recent years.
– Chris H
8 hours ago
add a comment
|
In a seminar presentation 3 years ago Bert Blocken said that on a time trial just pushing a rider by a following car could make several seconds. But I didn't the latest paper.
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
@VladimirF that's certainly possible, but I wouldn't like to try the experiment. The car would have to be much too close for the driver to react to any problems
– Chris H
8 hours ago
No, he was speaking about a normal TV or support car if allowed too close (say 10 meters). Edit: It has been published. urbanphysics.net/2015_JWEIA__BB_YT__Car_Cyclist.pdf
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
1
@VladimirF that's still too close for the driver to stop or even slow down much if the cyclist has a problem, given the speeds involved. The paper discusses speeds of 15m/s and separations of 3, 5 and 10m, so the bike and car are 0.2--0.67s apart. That's less than the reaction time of most drivers, even taking into account that the driver of a TV car should be concentrating and trained. And official race cars /motorbikes have hit and killed pro cyclists in recent years.
– Chris H
8 hours ago
In a seminar presentation 3 years ago Bert Blocken said that on a time trial just pushing a rider by a following car could make several seconds. But I didn't the latest paper.
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
In a seminar presentation 3 years ago Bert Blocken said that on a time trial just pushing a rider by a following car could make several seconds. But I didn't the latest paper.
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
@VladimirF that's certainly possible, but I wouldn't like to try the experiment. The car would have to be much too close for the driver to react to any problems
– Chris H
8 hours ago
@VladimirF that's certainly possible, but I wouldn't like to try the experiment. The car would have to be much too close for the driver to react to any problems
– Chris H
8 hours ago
No, he was speaking about a normal TV or support car if allowed too close (say 10 meters). Edit: It has been published. urbanphysics.net/2015_JWEIA__BB_YT__Car_Cyclist.pdf
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
No, he was speaking about a normal TV or support car if allowed too close (say 10 meters). Edit: It has been published. urbanphysics.net/2015_JWEIA__BB_YT__Car_Cyclist.pdf
– Vladimir F
8 hours ago
1
1
@VladimirF that's still too close for the driver to stop or even slow down much if the cyclist has a problem, given the speeds involved. The paper discusses speeds of 15m/s and separations of 3, 5 and 10m, so the bike and car are 0.2--0.67s apart. That's less than the reaction time of most drivers, even taking into account that the driver of a TV car should be concentrating and trained. And official race cars /motorbikes have hit and killed pro cyclists in recent years.
– Chris H
8 hours ago
@VladimirF that's still too close for the driver to stop or even slow down much if the cyclist has a problem, given the speeds involved. The paper discusses speeds of 15m/s and separations of 3, 5 and 10m, so the bike and car are 0.2--0.67s apart. That's less than the reaction time of most drivers, even taking into account that the driver of a TV car should be concentrating and trained. And official race cars /motorbikes have hit and killed pro cyclists in recent years.
– Chris H
8 hours ago
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I see you're thinking of aerodynamics, but there are other advantages too.
Race-craft, or more specifically Control. If you have a team in the bunch, you can work together to control the whole group. You're in the optimal position to get on the wheel of any break-away attempt and haul it back in. Likewise, you can be in position to "block" any attempt to follow a breakaway rider, if that fits your overall tactics for this race
Even individual riders can control a bunch or paceline from the front, by edging up the average speed and attempt to stress or tire-out other riders.
View as front rider you have a lot more awareness of what's coming up. There's no other bike/rider in front of you to block your view of the road, so you can prepare for changes. It would be very nasty tactics to just skim the edge of a pothole or gravel patch and hope following riders plough into it potentially wiping out competition. Related - if you're further back there's more chance of getting caught in or behind an accident, which adds delay and allows breakaways a chance to gain ground.
Motivation is increased - I know my segment times are improved when I'm being chased/followed by other riders, or by vehicles.
Advertising minor but by being visible, any sponsor logos are also more visible. Any team gets a credibility boost when they control the race from the front.
answered 5 hours ago
Criggie♦Criggie
49k5 gold badges83 silver badges167 bronze badges
But heard will not drag you, seen funny cyclists trying to win air "race" in any case, etc. Just wanted to be sure I am not using their efforts or power resting behind...
– Tom
16 mins ago
add a comment
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I see you're thinking of aerodynamics, but there are other advantages too.
Race-craft, or more specifically Control. If you have a team in the bunch, you can work together to control the whole group. You're in the optimal position to get on the wheel of any break-away attempt and haul it back in. Likewise, you can be in position to "block" any attempt to follow a breakaway rider, if that fits your overall tactics for this race
Even individual riders can control a bunch or paceline from the front, by edging up the average speed and attempt to stress or tire-out other riders.
View as front rider you have a lot more awareness of what's coming up. There's no other bike/rider in front of you to block your view of the road, so you can prepare for changes. It would be very nasty tactics to just skim the edge of a pothole or gravel patch and hope following riders plough into it potentially wiping out competition. Related - if you're further back there's more chance of getting caught in or behind an accident, which adds delay and allows breakaways a chance to gain ground.
Motivation is increased - I know my segment times are improved when I'm being chased/followed by other riders, or by vehicles.
Advertising minor but by being visible, any sponsor logos are also more visible. Any team gets a credibility boost when they control the race from the front.
answered 5 hours ago
Criggie♦Criggie
49k5 gold badges83 silver badges167 bronze badges
But heard will not drag you, seen funny cyclists trying to win air "race" in any case, etc. Just wanted to be sure I am not using their efforts or power resting behind...
– Tom
16 mins ago
add a comment
|
I see you're thinking of aerodynamics, but there are other advantages too.
Race-craft, or more specifically Control. If you have a team in the bunch, you can work together to control the whole group. You're in the optimal position to get on the wheel of any break-away attempt and haul it back in. Likewise, you can be in position to "block" any attempt to follow a breakaway rider, if that fits your overall tactics for this race
Even individual riders can control a bunch or paceline from the front, by edging up the average speed and attempt to stress or tire-out other riders.
View as front rider you have a lot more awareness of what's coming up. There's no other bike/rider in front of you to block your view of the road, so you can prepare for changes. It would be very nasty tactics to just skim the edge of a pothole or gravel patch and hope following riders plough into it potentially wiping out competition. Related - if you're further back there's more chance of getting caught in or behind an accident, which adds delay and allows breakaways a chance to gain ground.
Motivation is increased - I know my segment times are improved when I'm being chased/followed by other riders, or by vehicles.
Advertising minor but by being visible, any sponsor logos are also more visible. Any team gets a credibility boost when they control the race from the front.
answered 5 hours ago
Criggie♦Criggie
49k5 gold badges83 silver badges167 bronze badges
I see you're thinking of aerodynamics, but there are other advantages too.
Race-craft, or more specifically Control. If you have a team in the bunch, you can work together to control the whole group. You're in the optimal position to get on the wheel of any break-away attempt and haul it back in. Likewise, you can be in position to "block" any attempt to follow a breakaway rider, if that fits your overall tactics for this race
Even individual riders can control a bunch or paceline from the front, by edging up the average speed and attempt to stress or tire-out other riders.
View as front rider you have a lot more awareness of what's coming up. There's no other bike/rider in front of you to block your view of the road, so you can prepare for changes. It would be very nasty tactics to just skim the edge of a pothole or gravel patch and hope following riders plough into it potentially wiping out competition. Related - if you're further back there's more chance of getting caught in or behind an accident, which adds delay and allows breakaways a chance to gain ground.
Motivation is increased - I know my segment times are improved when I'm being chased/followed by other riders, or by vehicles.
Advertising minor but by being visible, any sponsor logos are also more visible. Any team gets a credibility boost when they control the race from the front.
answered 5 hours ago
Criggie♦Criggie
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answered 5 hours ago
Criggie♦Criggie
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answered 5 hours ago
Criggie♦Criggie
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answered 5 hours ago
Criggie♦Criggie
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But heard will not drag you, seen funny cyclists trying to win air "race" in any case, etc. Just wanted to be sure I am not using their efforts or power resting behind...
– Tom
16 mins ago
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But heard will not drag you, seen funny cyclists trying to win air "race" in any case, etc. Just wanted to be sure I am not using their efforts or power resting behind...
– Tom
16 mins ago
But heard will not drag you, seen funny cyclists trying to win air "race" in any case, etc. Just wanted to be sure I am not using their efforts or power resting behind...
– Tom
16 mins ago
But heard will not drag you, seen funny cyclists trying to win air "race" in any case, etc. Just wanted to be sure I am not using their efforts or power resting behind...
– Tom
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Yes, I've heard/read that the front biker has some benefit too. Can't explain it properly, so I'll let others do that ;-)
– Terry Seidler
9 hours ago
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Sorry found it is a duplicate while looking if tag match question here is very similar one bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/10069/…
– Tom
8 hours ago
Strange is 2nd can fill 1st's gap sucking him back, but in practice you can see hard pedalling front and you may even not pedal at all sometimes having a bit better bike, so you feel you are pulled front by his gap ;-)
– Tom
8 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Does drafting cause resistance to the lead rider?
– R. Chung
7 hours ago