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What does 'in attendance' mean on an England death certificate?
What does it mean if cause of death is listed as “Insanity” in late 1800s?Finding death record(s) of great grandmother who emigrated from Italy in 1899?Where is the marriage of F. M. Weston/Mason to a Goodman?UK death certificate details in 1908Strategy to find death of individual with common name?What does “living 15 Rich. II” mean for the year an ancestor was alive in England?Interpreting where Informant was when 1908 Death on NSW Certificate occurred?Cause of death on an 1871 British Death certificateDeciphering death certificate writingAncestor born in Bristol City workhouse?
This is the death certificate of my x2 great-grandmother. The informant is her eldest son.
What does 'in attendance' mean on a death certificate? Does it mean that the person was with her when she died?
Also, was she living with her son and then died in another house?
england death-records civil-registration
add a comment |
This is the death certificate of my x2 great-grandmother. The informant is her eldest son.
What does 'in attendance' mean on a death certificate? Does it mean that the person was with her when she died?
Also, was she living with her son and then died in another house?
england death-records civil-registration
add a comment |
This is the death certificate of my x2 great-grandmother. The informant is her eldest son.
What does 'in attendance' mean on a death certificate? Does it mean that the person was with her when she died?
Also, was she living with her son and then died in another house?
england death-records civil-registration
This is the death certificate of my x2 great-grandmother. The informant is her eldest son.
What does 'in attendance' mean on a death certificate? Does it mean that the person was with her when she died?
Also, was she living with her son and then died in another house?
england death-records civil-registration
england death-records civil-registration
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'In attendance' means someone who was tending to the deceased during their final illness, but was not present when they died (hat tip to Harry Vervet at https://genealogy.stackexchange.com/a/15587/6485).
She died (recorded) at 14 Heavitree Road -- you can't infer anything from this single piece of data, other than where she died.
Her usual address (based on Rank or Professions) was 13a Trinity Street where she (probably) lived with her husband Edward Goode. And, given the address of her son (the informant), her son lived with her and her husband as well.
But she died at another address.
Very often, death certificates in this period gave a seemingly ordinary address for a hospital or workhouse. Given that she died of something that sounds like it might have been cancer, I would investigate this possibility.
According to The Workhouse the Exeter Workhouse was at 14 Heavitree Road.
So, she died in the Workhouse Infirmary -- not unusual in this period when it was the only place many people could access medical care.
The whole certificate reads:
Registration district Exeter
1923 deaths in the Sub-District of EXETER WEST in the County of EXETER
(C.B.)
No.: 283
When and where died: Sixteenth January 1923 14 Heavitree Road U.D
[Urban District]
Name and surname: Norah Goode
Sex: Female
Age: 62 years
Rank or Profession: of 13A Trinity Street Exeter U.D. [Urban District]
Wife of Edwward Goode a Fish Salesman
Cause of Death: (1) Epithelioma Palate (11) Ashthenia Certified by J
Pere[?]ia Graff M.D
Signature Description and Residence of Informant: Frank H. O'Brien Son
in attendance 13A Trinity Street Exeter
When registered: Seventeenth January 1923
Signature of Registrar: Do you care? Probably A.R. Coote or A.R. Roote
Are you able to read columns 5 and 6?
– user1261710
14 hours ago
Epithelioma Palate is cancer of the soft palate (upper mouth). Asthenia is a nonspecific weakness and lack of energy. (In this case probably from not being able to eat due to the mouth cancer.)
– RonJohn
6 hours ago
add a comment |
"In attendance" does not necessarily mean that they witnessed the death.
For deaths that occurred at home, the informant was usually either by someone "present at the death" or someone "in attendance". The latter means someone who was tending to the deceased during their final illness, but was not present when they died.
The relevant legislation (Births and Deaths Registration Act, 1874, c.88) states:
When a person dies in a house after the commencement of this Act, it shall be the duty of the nearest relatives of the deceased present at the death, or in attendance during the last illness of the deceased, and in default of such relatives, of every other relative of the deceased dwelling or being in the same sub-district as the deceased, and in default of such relatives, of each person present at the death, and of the occupier of the house in which, to his knowledge, the death took place, and in default of the persons herein-before in this section mentioned, of each inmate of such house, and of the person causing the body of the deceased person to be buried, to give, to the best of his knowledge and belief, to the registrar, within the five days next following the day of such death, information of the particulars required to be registered concerning such death, and in the presence of the registrar to sign the register.
In this particular case, as this appears to be a death in a workhouse infirmary (as per ColeValleyGirl's answer), the next paragraph in the 1874 Act is also relevant:
Where a person dies in a place which is not a house, or a dead body is found elsewhere than in a house, it shall be the duty of every relative of such deceased person having knowledge of any of the particulars required to be registered concerning the death, and in default of such relative, of every person present at the death, and of any person finding, and of any person taking charge of the body, and of the person causing the body to be buried, to give to the registrar, within the five days next after the death or the finding, such information of the particulars required to be registered concerning the death as the informant possesses, and in the presence of the registrar to sign the register.
How does this work if somebody died in the Workhouse? Genuinely looking to learn.
– ColeValleyGirl
14 hours ago
The next part of the legislation makes some further provisions if not in a house, but a relative present or in attendance can still register the death. It seems it was often the workhouse staff to register these deaths, if there were no relatives
– Harry Vervet♦
13 hours ago
Thanks -- have updated my answer.
– ColeValleyGirl
13 hours ago
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'In attendance' means someone who was tending to the deceased during their final illness, but was not present when they died (hat tip to Harry Vervet at https://genealogy.stackexchange.com/a/15587/6485).
She died (recorded) at 14 Heavitree Road -- you can't infer anything from this single piece of data, other than where she died.
Her usual address (based on Rank or Professions) was 13a Trinity Street where she (probably) lived with her husband Edward Goode. And, given the address of her son (the informant), her son lived with her and her husband as well.
But she died at another address.
Very often, death certificates in this period gave a seemingly ordinary address for a hospital or workhouse. Given that she died of something that sounds like it might have been cancer, I would investigate this possibility.
According to The Workhouse the Exeter Workhouse was at 14 Heavitree Road.
So, she died in the Workhouse Infirmary -- not unusual in this period when it was the only place many people could access medical care.
The whole certificate reads:
Registration district Exeter
1923 deaths in the Sub-District of EXETER WEST in the County of EXETER
(C.B.)
No.: 283
When and where died: Sixteenth January 1923 14 Heavitree Road U.D
[Urban District]
Name and surname: Norah Goode
Sex: Female
Age: 62 years
Rank or Profession: of 13A Trinity Street Exeter U.D. [Urban District]
Wife of Edwward Goode a Fish Salesman
Cause of Death: (1) Epithelioma Palate (11) Ashthenia Certified by J
Pere[?]ia Graff M.D
Signature Description and Residence of Informant: Frank H. O'Brien Son
in attendance 13A Trinity Street Exeter
When registered: Seventeenth January 1923
Signature of Registrar: Do you care? Probably A.R. Coote or A.R. Roote
Are you able to read columns 5 and 6?
– user1261710
14 hours ago
Epithelioma Palate is cancer of the soft palate (upper mouth). Asthenia is a nonspecific weakness and lack of energy. (In this case probably from not being able to eat due to the mouth cancer.)
– RonJohn
6 hours ago
add a comment |
'In attendance' means someone who was tending to the deceased during their final illness, but was not present when they died (hat tip to Harry Vervet at https://genealogy.stackexchange.com/a/15587/6485).
She died (recorded) at 14 Heavitree Road -- you can't infer anything from this single piece of data, other than where she died.
Her usual address (based on Rank or Professions) was 13a Trinity Street where she (probably) lived with her husband Edward Goode. And, given the address of her son (the informant), her son lived with her and her husband as well.
But she died at another address.
Very often, death certificates in this period gave a seemingly ordinary address for a hospital or workhouse. Given that she died of something that sounds like it might have been cancer, I would investigate this possibility.
According to The Workhouse the Exeter Workhouse was at 14 Heavitree Road.
So, she died in the Workhouse Infirmary -- not unusual in this period when it was the only place many people could access medical care.
The whole certificate reads:
Registration district Exeter
1923 deaths in the Sub-District of EXETER WEST in the County of EXETER
(C.B.)
No.: 283
When and where died: Sixteenth January 1923 14 Heavitree Road U.D
[Urban District]
Name and surname: Norah Goode
Sex: Female
Age: 62 years
Rank or Profession: of 13A Trinity Street Exeter U.D. [Urban District]
Wife of Edwward Goode a Fish Salesman
Cause of Death: (1) Epithelioma Palate (11) Ashthenia Certified by J
Pere[?]ia Graff M.D
Signature Description and Residence of Informant: Frank H. O'Brien Son
in attendance 13A Trinity Street Exeter
When registered: Seventeenth January 1923
Signature of Registrar: Do you care? Probably A.R. Coote or A.R. Roote
Are you able to read columns 5 and 6?
– user1261710
14 hours ago
Epithelioma Palate is cancer of the soft palate (upper mouth). Asthenia is a nonspecific weakness and lack of energy. (In this case probably from not being able to eat due to the mouth cancer.)
– RonJohn
6 hours ago
add a comment |
'In attendance' means someone who was tending to the deceased during their final illness, but was not present when they died (hat tip to Harry Vervet at https://genealogy.stackexchange.com/a/15587/6485).
She died (recorded) at 14 Heavitree Road -- you can't infer anything from this single piece of data, other than where she died.
Her usual address (based on Rank or Professions) was 13a Trinity Street where she (probably) lived with her husband Edward Goode. And, given the address of her son (the informant), her son lived with her and her husband as well.
But she died at another address.
Very often, death certificates in this period gave a seemingly ordinary address for a hospital or workhouse. Given that she died of something that sounds like it might have been cancer, I would investigate this possibility.
According to The Workhouse the Exeter Workhouse was at 14 Heavitree Road.
So, she died in the Workhouse Infirmary -- not unusual in this period when it was the only place many people could access medical care.
The whole certificate reads:
Registration district Exeter
1923 deaths in the Sub-District of EXETER WEST in the County of EXETER
(C.B.)
No.: 283
When and where died: Sixteenth January 1923 14 Heavitree Road U.D
[Urban District]
Name and surname: Norah Goode
Sex: Female
Age: 62 years
Rank or Profession: of 13A Trinity Street Exeter U.D. [Urban District]
Wife of Edwward Goode a Fish Salesman
Cause of Death: (1) Epithelioma Palate (11) Ashthenia Certified by J
Pere[?]ia Graff M.D
Signature Description and Residence of Informant: Frank H. O'Brien Son
in attendance 13A Trinity Street Exeter
When registered: Seventeenth January 1923
Signature of Registrar: Do you care? Probably A.R. Coote or A.R. Roote
'In attendance' means someone who was tending to the deceased during their final illness, but was not present when they died (hat tip to Harry Vervet at https://genealogy.stackexchange.com/a/15587/6485).
She died (recorded) at 14 Heavitree Road -- you can't infer anything from this single piece of data, other than where she died.
Her usual address (based on Rank or Professions) was 13a Trinity Street where she (probably) lived with her husband Edward Goode. And, given the address of her son (the informant), her son lived with her and her husband as well.
But she died at another address.
Very often, death certificates in this period gave a seemingly ordinary address for a hospital or workhouse. Given that she died of something that sounds like it might have been cancer, I would investigate this possibility.
According to The Workhouse the Exeter Workhouse was at 14 Heavitree Road.
So, she died in the Workhouse Infirmary -- not unusual in this period when it was the only place many people could access medical care.
The whole certificate reads:
Registration district Exeter
1923 deaths in the Sub-District of EXETER WEST in the County of EXETER
(C.B.)
No.: 283
When and where died: Sixteenth January 1923 14 Heavitree Road U.D
[Urban District]
Name and surname: Norah Goode
Sex: Female
Age: 62 years
Rank or Profession: of 13A Trinity Street Exeter U.D. [Urban District]
Wife of Edwward Goode a Fish Salesman
Cause of Death: (1) Epithelioma Palate (11) Ashthenia Certified by J
Pere[?]ia Graff M.D
Signature Description and Residence of Informant: Frank H. O'Brien Son
in attendance 13A Trinity Street Exeter
When registered: Seventeenth January 1923
Signature of Registrar: Do you care? Probably A.R. Coote or A.R. Roote
edited 13 hours ago
answered 14 hours ago
ColeValleyGirlColeValleyGirl
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Are you able to read columns 5 and 6?
– user1261710
14 hours ago
Epithelioma Palate is cancer of the soft palate (upper mouth). Asthenia is a nonspecific weakness and lack of energy. (In this case probably from not being able to eat due to the mouth cancer.)
– RonJohn
6 hours ago
add a comment |
Are you able to read columns 5 and 6?
– user1261710
14 hours ago
Epithelioma Palate is cancer of the soft palate (upper mouth). Asthenia is a nonspecific weakness and lack of energy. (In this case probably from not being able to eat due to the mouth cancer.)
– RonJohn
6 hours ago
Are you able to read columns 5 and 6?
– user1261710
14 hours ago
Are you able to read columns 5 and 6?
– user1261710
14 hours ago
Epithelioma Palate is cancer of the soft palate (upper mouth). Asthenia is a nonspecific weakness and lack of energy. (In this case probably from not being able to eat due to the mouth cancer.)
– RonJohn
6 hours ago
Epithelioma Palate is cancer of the soft palate (upper mouth). Asthenia is a nonspecific weakness and lack of energy. (In this case probably from not being able to eat due to the mouth cancer.)
– RonJohn
6 hours ago
add a comment |
"In attendance" does not necessarily mean that they witnessed the death.
For deaths that occurred at home, the informant was usually either by someone "present at the death" or someone "in attendance". The latter means someone who was tending to the deceased during their final illness, but was not present when they died.
The relevant legislation (Births and Deaths Registration Act, 1874, c.88) states:
When a person dies in a house after the commencement of this Act, it shall be the duty of the nearest relatives of the deceased present at the death, or in attendance during the last illness of the deceased, and in default of such relatives, of every other relative of the deceased dwelling or being in the same sub-district as the deceased, and in default of such relatives, of each person present at the death, and of the occupier of the house in which, to his knowledge, the death took place, and in default of the persons herein-before in this section mentioned, of each inmate of such house, and of the person causing the body of the deceased person to be buried, to give, to the best of his knowledge and belief, to the registrar, within the five days next following the day of such death, information of the particulars required to be registered concerning such death, and in the presence of the registrar to sign the register.
In this particular case, as this appears to be a death in a workhouse infirmary (as per ColeValleyGirl's answer), the next paragraph in the 1874 Act is also relevant:
Where a person dies in a place which is not a house, or a dead body is found elsewhere than in a house, it shall be the duty of every relative of such deceased person having knowledge of any of the particulars required to be registered concerning the death, and in default of such relative, of every person present at the death, and of any person finding, and of any person taking charge of the body, and of the person causing the body to be buried, to give to the registrar, within the five days next after the death or the finding, such information of the particulars required to be registered concerning the death as the informant possesses, and in the presence of the registrar to sign the register.
How does this work if somebody died in the Workhouse? Genuinely looking to learn.
– ColeValleyGirl
14 hours ago
The next part of the legislation makes some further provisions if not in a house, but a relative present or in attendance can still register the death. It seems it was often the workhouse staff to register these deaths, if there were no relatives
– Harry Vervet♦
13 hours ago
Thanks -- have updated my answer.
– ColeValleyGirl
13 hours ago
add a comment |
"In attendance" does not necessarily mean that they witnessed the death.
For deaths that occurred at home, the informant was usually either by someone "present at the death" or someone "in attendance". The latter means someone who was tending to the deceased during their final illness, but was not present when they died.
The relevant legislation (Births and Deaths Registration Act, 1874, c.88) states:
When a person dies in a house after the commencement of this Act, it shall be the duty of the nearest relatives of the deceased present at the death, or in attendance during the last illness of the deceased, and in default of such relatives, of every other relative of the deceased dwelling or being in the same sub-district as the deceased, and in default of such relatives, of each person present at the death, and of the occupier of the house in which, to his knowledge, the death took place, and in default of the persons herein-before in this section mentioned, of each inmate of such house, and of the person causing the body of the deceased person to be buried, to give, to the best of his knowledge and belief, to the registrar, within the five days next following the day of such death, information of the particulars required to be registered concerning such death, and in the presence of the registrar to sign the register.
In this particular case, as this appears to be a death in a workhouse infirmary (as per ColeValleyGirl's answer), the next paragraph in the 1874 Act is also relevant:
Where a person dies in a place which is not a house, or a dead body is found elsewhere than in a house, it shall be the duty of every relative of such deceased person having knowledge of any of the particulars required to be registered concerning the death, and in default of such relative, of every person present at the death, and of any person finding, and of any person taking charge of the body, and of the person causing the body to be buried, to give to the registrar, within the five days next after the death or the finding, such information of the particulars required to be registered concerning the death as the informant possesses, and in the presence of the registrar to sign the register.
How does this work if somebody died in the Workhouse? Genuinely looking to learn.
– ColeValleyGirl
14 hours ago
The next part of the legislation makes some further provisions if not in a house, but a relative present or in attendance can still register the death. It seems it was often the workhouse staff to register these deaths, if there were no relatives
– Harry Vervet♦
13 hours ago
Thanks -- have updated my answer.
– ColeValleyGirl
13 hours ago
add a comment |
"In attendance" does not necessarily mean that they witnessed the death.
For deaths that occurred at home, the informant was usually either by someone "present at the death" or someone "in attendance". The latter means someone who was tending to the deceased during their final illness, but was not present when they died.
The relevant legislation (Births and Deaths Registration Act, 1874, c.88) states:
When a person dies in a house after the commencement of this Act, it shall be the duty of the nearest relatives of the deceased present at the death, or in attendance during the last illness of the deceased, and in default of such relatives, of every other relative of the deceased dwelling or being in the same sub-district as the deceased, and in default of such relatives, of each person present at the death, and of the occupier of the house in which, to his knowledge, the death took place, and in default of the persons herein-before in this section mentioned, of each inmate of such house, and of the person causing the body of the deceased person to be buried, to give, to the best of his knowledge and belief, to the registrar, within the five days next following the day of such death, information of the particulars required to be registered concerning such death, and in the presence of the registrar to sign the register.
In this particular case, as this appears to be a death in a workhouse infirmary (as per ColeValleyGirl's answer), the next paragraph in the 1874 Act is also relevant:
Where a person dies in a place which is not a house, or a dead body is found elsewhere than in a house, it shall be the duty of every relative of such deceased person having knowledge of any of the particulars required to be registered concerning the death, and in default of such relative, of every person present at the death, and of any person finding, and of any person taking charge of the body, and of the person causing the body to be buried, to give to the registrar, within the five days next after the death or the finding, such information of the particulars required to be registered concerning the death as the informant possesses, and in the presence of the registrar to sign the register.
"In attendance" does not necessarily mean that they witnessed the death.
For deaths that occurred at home, the informant was usually either by someone "present at the death" or someone "in attendance". The latter means someone who was tending to the deceased during their final illness, but was not present when they died.
The relevant legislation (Births and Deaths Registration Act, 1874, c.88) states:
When a person dies in a house after the commencement of this Act, it shall be the duty of the nearest relatives of the deceased present at the death, or in attendance during the last illness of the deceased, and in default of such relatives, of every other relative of the deceased dwelling or being in the same sub-district as the deceased, and in default of such relatives, of each person present at the death, and of the occupier of the house in which, to his knowledge, the death took place, and in default of the persons herein-before in this section mentioned, of each inmate of such house, and of the person causing the body of the deceased person to be buried, to give, to the best of his knowledge and belief, to the registrar, within the five days next following the day of such death, information of the particulars required to be registered concerning such death, and in the presence of the registrar to sign the register.
In this particular case, as this appears to be a death in a workhouse infirmary (as per ColeValleyGirl's answer), the next paragraph in the 1874 Act is also relevant:
Where a person dies in a place which is not a house, or a dead body is found elsewhere than in a house, it shall be the duty of every relative of such deceased person having knowledge of any of the particulars required to be registered concerning the death, and in default of such relative, of every person present at the death, and of any person finding, and of any person taking charge of the body, and of the person causing the body to be buried, to give to the registrar, within the five days next after the death or the finding, such information of the particulars required to be registered concerning the death as the informant possesses, and in the presence of the registrar to sign the register.
edited 1 hour ago
answered 14 hours ago
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How does this work if somebody died in the Workhouse? Genuinely looking to learn.
– ColeValleyGirl
14 hours ago
The next part of the legislation makes some further provisions if not in a house, but a relative present or in attendance can still register the death. It seems it was often the workhouse staff to register these deaths, if there were no relatives
– Harry Vervet♦
13 hours ago
Thanks -- have updated my answer.
– ColeValleyGirl
13 hours ago
add a comment |
How does this work if somebody died in the Workhouse? Genuinely looking to learn.
– ColeValleyGirl
14 hours ago
The next part of the legislation makes some further provisions if not in a house, but a relative present or in attendance can still register the death. It seems it was often the workhouse staff to register these deaths, if there were no relatives
– Harry Vervet♦
13 hours ago
Thanks -- have updated my answer.
– ColeValleyGirl
13 hours ago
How does this work if somebody died in the Workhouse? Genuinely looking to learn.
– ColeValleyGirl
14 hours ago
How does this work if somebody died in the Workhouse? Genuinely looking to learn.
– ColeValleyGirl
14 hours ago
The next part of the legislation makes some further provisions if not in a house, but a relative present or in attendance can still register the death. It seems it was often the workhouse staff to register these deaths, if there were no relatives
– Harry Vervet♦
13 hours ago
The next part of the legislation makes some further provisions if not in a house, but a relative present or in attendance can still register the death. It seems it was often the workhouse staff to register these deaths, if there were no relatives
– Harry Vervet♦
13 hours ago
Thanks -- have updated my answer.
– ColeValleyGirl
13 hours ago
Thanks -- have updated my answer.
– ColeValleyGirl
13 hours ago
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