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Why does lemon juice reduce the “fish” odor of sea food — specifically fish?


Why do Organolithium or Grignard reagents act as nucleophiles and not as bases with aldehydes and ketonesWhy do sodium halides react so differently with sulfuric acid?Could neutralisation of safe chemicals produce dangerous ones?Sodium cyanoborohydride and iminium reductionsReaction of citric acid and calcium chlorideDistinguishing Test for Organic CompoundspH level of fabric with regard to inhibiting fungal growthWhat are the products of the reaction between methanamine and nitrous acid?Simple experiment to do at home that involves acids and bases?Can amines in acidic medium last for long?













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In studying about amines, I read that lemon juice is also used to wash fish because it reacts with the amines on and in the fish to convert the amines to its salt, just reducing the "fishy smell".
I was thinking that it must be the citric acid in lemon juice that somehow reacts with the amines to convert them to their salts.



What is the general chemical reaction of citric acid with amines in fish, and why does this reaction actually reduce the "fishy" smell?










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    It's all about an acid-base reaction: amines are basic. And the amines found in fish are quite volatile. Addition of acid forms non-volatile salts (eg: aminium citrates)
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In studying about amines, I read that lemon juice is also used to wash fish because it reacts with the amines on and in the fish to convert the amines to its salt, just reducing the "fishy smell".
I was thinking that it must be the citric acid in lemon juice that somehow reacts with the amines to convert them to their salts.



What is the general chemical reaction of citric acid with amines in fish, and why does this reaction actually reduce the "fishy" smell?










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    It's all about an acid-base reaction: amines are basic. And the amines found in fish are quite volatile. Addition of acid forms non-volatile salts (eg: aminium citrates)
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In studying about amines, I read that lemon juice is also used to wash fish because it reacts with the amines on and in the fish to convert the amines to its salt, just reducing the "fishy smell".
I was thinking that it must be the citric acid in lemon juice that somehow reacts with the amines to convert them to their salts.



What is the general chemical reaction of citric acid with amines in fish, and why does this reaction actually reduce the "fishy" smell?










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In studying about amines, I read that lemon juice is also used to wash fish because it reacts with the amines on and in the fish to convert the amines to its salt, just reducing the "fishy smell".
I was thinking that it must be the citric acid in lemon juice that somehow reacts with the amines to convert them to their salts.



What is the general chemical reaction of citric acid with amines in fish, and why does this reaction actually reduce the "fishy" smell?







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  • $begingroup$
    It's all about an acid-base reaction: amines are basic. And the amines found in fish are quite volatile. Addition of acid forms non-volatile salts (eg: aminium citrates)
    $endgroup$
    – The_Vinz
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  • $begingroup$
    It's all about an acid-base reaction: amines are basic. And the amines found in fish are quite volatile. Addition of acid forms non-volatile salts (eg: aminium citrates)
    $endgroup$
    – The_Vinz
    4 hours ago















$begingroup$
It's all about an acid-base reaction: amines are basic. And the amines found in fish are quite volatile. Addition of acid forms non-volatile salts (eg: aminium citrates)
$endgroup$
– The_Vinz
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
It's all about an acid-base reaction: amines are basic. And the amines found in fish are quite volatile. Addition of acid forms non-volatile salts (eg: aminium citrates)
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There are 2 cases, both related to the acid-base reactions. Both are also partial reasons, why so many fish recipes use lemon juice.



Fish, especially sea fish, naturally contains trimethylamine-N-oxide $ce(CH3)3N-O$, that gets after fish death enzymatically reduced to trimethylamine $ce(CH3)3N$, the source of ammonia-like fish odour.



In acidic environment, it forms trimethylammonium salts, what eliminates the volatile smelly trimethylamine.



Another source of fishy smell/taste, especially of some sweet water species like carp or catfish, is geosmin, produced after death of some Streptomyces or cyanobacteria cells which gives muddy or earthy taste and the human smell sensors are extremely sensitive to it (5 ppt).



Geosmin is also responsible for smell of the soil after raining. There is speculation the nose sensitivity for geosmin is evolution response for efficiency in searching for water.



Geosmin reportedly breaks in acidic environment.






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    There are 2 cases, both related to the acid-base reactions. Both are also partial reasons, why so many fish recipes use lemon juice.



    Fish, especially sea fish, naturally contains trimethylamine-N-oxide $ce(CH3)3N-O$, that gets after fish death enzymatically reduced to trimethylamine $ce(CH3)3N$, the source of ammonia-like fish odour.



    In acidic environment, it forms trimethylammonium salts, what eliminates the volatile smelly trimethylamine.



    Another source of fishy smell/taste, especially of some sweet water species like carp or catfish, is geosmin, produced after death of some Streptomyces or cyanobacteria cells which gives muddy or earthy taste and the human smell sensors are extremely sensitive to it (5 ppt).



    Geosmin is also responsible for smell of the soil after raining. There is speculation the nose sensitivity for geosmin is evolution response for efficiency in searching for water.



    Geosmin reportedly breaks in acidic environment.






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      $begingroup$

      There are 2 cases, both related to the acid-base reactions. Both are also partial reasons, why so many fish recipes use lemon juice.



      Fish, especially sea fish, naturally contains trimethylamine-N-oxide $ce(CH3)3N-O$, that gets after fish death enzymatically reduced to trimethylamine $ce(CH3)3N$, the source of ammonia-like fish odour.



      In acidic environment, it forms trimethylammonium salts, what eliminates the volatile smelly trimethylamine.



      Another source of fishy smell/taste, especially of some sweet water species like carp or catfish, is geosmin, produced after death of some Streptomyces or cyanobacteria cells which gives muddy or earthy taste and the human smell sensors are extremely sensitive to it (5 ppt).



      Geosmin is also responsible for smell of the soil after raining. There is speculation the nose sensitivity for geosmin is evolution response for efficiency in searching for water.



      Geosmin reportedly breaks in acidic environment.






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        There are 2 cases, both related to the acid-base reactions. Both are also partial reasons, why so many fish recipes use lemon juice.



        Fish, especially sea fish, naturally contains trimethylamine-N-oxide $ce(CH3)3N-O$, that gets after fish death enzymatically reduced to trimethylamine $ce(CH3)3N$, the source of ammonia-like fish odour.



        In acidic environment, it forms trimethylammonium salts, what eliminates the volatile smelly trimethylamine.



        Another source of fishy smell/taste, especially of some sweet water species like carp or catfish, is geosmin, produced after death of some Streptomyces or cyanobacteria cells which gives muddy or earthy taste and the human smell sensors are extremely sensitive to it (5 ppt).



        Geosmin is also responsible for smell of the soil after raining. There is speculation the nose sensitivity for geosmin is evolution response for efficiency in searching for water.



        Geosmin reportedly breaks in acidic environment.






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        There are 2 cases, both related to the acid-base reactions. Both are also partial reasons, why so many fish recipes use lemon juice.



        Fish, especially sea fish, naturally contains trimethylamine-N-oxide $ce(CH3)3N-O$, that gets after fish death enzymatically reduced to trimethylamine $ce(CH3)3N$, the source of ammonia-like fish odour.



        In acidic environment, it forms trimethylammonium salts, what eliminates the volatile smelly trimethylamine.



        Another source of fishy smell/taste, especially of some sweet water species like carp or catfish, is geosmin, produced after death of some Streptomyces or cyanobacteria cells which gives muddy or earthy taste and the human smell sensors are extremely sensitive to it (5 ppt).



        Geosmin is also responsible for smell of the soil after raining. There is speculation the nose sensitivity for geosmin is evolution response for efficiency in searching for water.



        Geosmin reportedly breaks in acidic environment.







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