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Simplicial set represented by an (unordered) set


Simplicial space and its simplicial replacement?Hodge star and harmonic simplicial differential formsCech nerve as homotopy colimit?Removing a simplicial subset from a simplicial setVector fields on a simplicial manifold.Is there a class of simplicial sets whose weak homotopy type is preserved by symmetrization?What suffices to check completeness in an n-fold Segal space?explicit description of the cosimplicial simplicial set $Q^bullet$Why are simplicial objects monadic over split (contractible) simplicial objects?Is totalization (of a cosimplicial category) a part of some adjunction?













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Let $X$ be a (finite if you want) set and form the simplicial set $F^bullet(X)$ with
$$
F^n(X) = mathrmHom_mathrmset ([n], X)
$$

where the right hand side denotes arbitrary maps of sets (of course
it wouldn't make sense to say order preserving as $X$ doesn't come
with an order).



I'm wondering about a description of $F^bullet(X)$. For example if $X = 0,1$ then there are 2 0-simplices, may as well call them $[0] and [1]$ and 2 1-simplices $[0, 1]$ and $[1,0]$ glued together to form a copy of $S^1$.



Edit: as pointed out in Goodwillie's answer, this is not the end of the story, there are way more higher dimensional non-degenerate simplices.



Is there an analogous description when $X = 0, 1, 2$?



A closely related question is whether there's a right adjoint to the
forgetful functor from the simplex category $Delta$ (finite ordered
sets) to, say, finite (unordered) sets -- and if so what is it.



Example where such simplicial sets arise: given a map of topological spaces $f: X
to Y$
we can always form a
simplicial object $mathcalS^bullet(f)$ with
$$
mathcalS^n = prodnolimits_X^n = underbraceX times_Y
cdots times_Y X_ntext times
$$

with face and degeneracy maps given by projections and diagonals
respectively. Taking connected components gives a simplicial set.



When $Y$ is the union $bigcup_i=1^N H_i$ of the coordinate
hyperplanes in $mathbbC^N$ and $f: X=coprod_i=1^N H_i to
bigcup_i=1^N H_i=Y$
is the obvious map, I believe the simplicial
set we get is $F^bullet(1, dots, n)$.










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    $begingroup$


    Let $X$ be a (finite if you want) set and form the simplicial set $F^bullet(X)$ with
    $$
    F^n(X) = mathrmHom_mathrmset ([n], X)
    $$

    where the right hand side denotes arbitrary maps of sets (of course
    it wouldn't make sense to say order preserving as $X$ doesn't come
    with an order).



    I'm wondering about a description of $F^bullet(X)$. For example if $X = 0,1$ then there are 2 0-simplices, may as well call them $[0] and [1]$ and 2 1-simplices $[0, 1]$ and $[1,0]$ glued together to form a copy of $S^1$.



    Edit: as pointed out in Goodwillie's answer, this is not the end of the story, there are way more higher dimensional non-degenerate simplices.



    Is there an analogous description when $X = 0, 1, 2$?



    A closely related question is whether there's a right adjoint to the
    forgetful functor from the simplex category $Delta$ (finite ordered
    sets) to, say, finite (unordered) sets -- and if so what is it.



    Example where such simplicial sets arise: given a map of topological spaces $f: X
    to Y$
    we can always form a
    simplicial object $mathcalS^bullet(f)$ with
    $$
    mathcalS^n = prodnolimits_X^n = underbraceX times_Y
    cdots times_Y X_ntext times
    $$

    with face and degeneracy maps given by projections and diagonals
    respectively. Taking connected components gives a simplicial set.



    When $Y$ is the union $bigcup_i=1^N H_i$ of the coordinate
    hyperplanes in $mathbbC^N$ and $f: X=coprod_i=1^N H_i to
    bigcup_i=1^N H_i=Y$
    is the obvious map, I believe the simplicial
    set we get is $F^bullet(1, dots, n)$.










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      $begingroup$


      Let $X$ be a (finite if you want) set and form the simplicial set $F^bullet(X)$ with
      $$
      F^n(X) = mathrmHom_mathrmset ([n], X)
      $$

      where the right hand side denotes arbitrary maps of sets (of course
      it wouldn't make sense to say order preserving as $X$ doesn't come
      with an order).



      I'm wondering about a description of $F^bullet(X)$. For example if $X = 0,1$ then there are 2 0-simplices, may as well call them $[0] and [1]$ and 2 1-simplices $[0, 1]$ and $[1,0]$ glued together to form a copy of $S^1$.



      Edit: as pointed out in Goodwillie's answer, this is not the end of the story, there are way more higher dimensional non-degenerate simplices.



      Is there an analogous description when $X = 0, 1, 2$?



      A closely related question is whether there's a right adjoint to the
      forgetful functor from the simplex category $Delta$ (finite ordered
      sets) to, say, finite (unordered) sets -- and if so what is it.



      Example where such simplicial sets arise: given a map of topological spaces $f: X
      to Y$
      we can always form a
      simplicial object $mathcalS^bullet(f)$ with
      $$
      mathcalS^n = prodnolimits_X^n = underbraceX times_Y
      cdots times_Y X_ntext times
      $$

      with face and degeneracy maps given by projections and diagonals
      respectively. Taking connected components gives a simplicial set.



      When $Y$ is the union $bigcup_i=1^N H_i$ of the coordinate
      hyperplanes in $mathbbC^N$ and $f: X=coprod_i=1^N H_i to
      bigcup_i=1^N H_i=Y$
      is the obvious map, I believe the simplicial
      set we get is $F^bullet(1, dots, n)$.










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      Let $X$ be a (finite if you want) set and form the simplicial set $F^bullet(X)$ with
      $$
      F^n(X) = mathrmHom_mathrmset ([n], X)
      $$

      where the right hand side denotes arbitrary maps of sets (of course
      it wouldn't make sense to say order preserving as $X$ doesn't come
      with an order).



      I'm wondering about a description of $F^bullet(X)$. For example if $X = 0,1$ then there are 2 0-simplices, may as well call them $[0] and [1]$ and 2 1-simplices $[0, 1]$ and $[1,0]$ glued together to form a copy of $S^1$.



      Edit: as pointed out in Goodwillie's answer, this is not the end of the story, there are way more higher dimensional non-degenerate simplices.



      Is there an analogous description when $X = 0, 1, 2$?



      A closely related question is whether there's a right adjoint to the
      forgetful functor from the simplex category $Delta$ (finite ordered
      sets) to, say, finite (unordered) sets -- and if so what is it.



      Example where such simplicial sets arise: given a map of topological spaces $f: X
      to Y$
      we can always form a
      simplicial object $mathcalS^bullet(f)$ with
      $$
      mathcalS^n = prodnolimits_X^n = underbraceX times_Y
      cdots times_Y X_ntext times
      $$

      with face and degeneracy maps given by projections and diagonals
      respectively. Taking connected components gives a simplicial set.



      When $Y$ is the union $bigcup_i=1^N H_i$ of the coordinate
      hyperplanes in $mathbbC^N$ and $f: X=coprod_i=1^N H_i to
      bigcup_i=1^N H_i=Y$
      is the obvious map, I believe the simplicial
      set we get is $F^bullet(1, dots, n)$.







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          You are overlooking some nondegenerate simplices. For example, when $X=0,1$ there are the $2$-cells $[0,1,0]$ and $[1,0,1]$. In fact, the thing you call $F^bullet(X)$ is infinite dimensional if $X$ has more than one element.



          It is contractible whenever $X$ is non-empty; this can be seen by identifying it with the nerve of a category, a category equivalent to the point category with one morphism.



          If $X=G$ has a group structure then $F^bullet(G)$ is often called $EG$; it is a contractible space with free $G$-action.






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            Ah! Absolutely overlooked those, many thanks. Quick follow up: as an intermediate step, can we view $F^bullet(X)$ as the nerve of the category with objects the points $x in X$ and with a unique morphism $x to y$ for every 2 points $x, y in X$ (this is at least the case when $X= G$ a group and we build $EG$ as the nerve of the Cayley graph I think...)? Then including a point $x in X$ with its identity morphism would give an equivalence of categories ...
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          You are overlooking some nondegenerate simplices. For example, when $X=0,1$ there are the $2$-cells $[0,1,0]$ and $[1,0,1]$. In fact, the thing you call $F^bullet(X)$ is infinite dimensional if $X$ has more than one element.



          It is contractible whenever $X$ is non-empty; this can be seen by identifying it with the nerve of a category, a category equivalent to the point category with one morphism.



          If $X=G$ has a group structure then $F^bullet(G)$ is often called $EG$; it is a contractible space with free $G$-action.






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          • $begingroup$
            Ah! Absolutely overlooked those, many thanks. Quick follow up: as an intermediate step, can we view $F^bullet(X)$ as the nerve of the category with objects the points $x in X$ and with a unique morphism $x to y$ for every 2 points $x, y in X$ (this is at least the case when $X= G$ a group and we build $EG$ as the nerve of the Cayley graph I think...)? Then including a point $x in X$ with its identity morphism would give an equivalence of categories ...
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          You are overlooking some nondegenerate simplices. For example, when $X=0,1$ there are the $2$-cells $[0,1,0]$ and $[1,0,1]$. In fact, the thing you call $F^bullet(X)$ is infinite dimensional if $X$ has more than one element.



          It is contractible whenever $X$ is non-empty; this can be seen by identifying it with the nerve of a category, a category equivalent to the point category with one morphism.



          If $X=G$ has a group structure then $F^bullet(G)$ is often called $EG$; it is a contractible space with free $G$-action.






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            Ah! Absolutely overlooked those, many thanks. Quick follow up: as an intermediate step, can we view $F^bullet(X)$ as the nerve of the category with objects the points $x in X$ and with a unique morphism $x to y$ for every 2 points $x, y in X$ (this is at least the case when $X= G$ a group and we build $EG$ as the nerve of the Cayley graph I think...)? Then including a point $x in X$ with its identity morphism would give an equivalence of categories ...
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          You are overlooking some nondegenerate simplices. For example, when $X=0,1$ there are the $2$-cells $[0,1,0]$ and $[1,0,1]$. In fact, the thing you call $F^bullet(X)$ is infinite dimensional if $X$ has more than one element.



          It is contractible whenever $X$ is non-empty; this can be seen by identifying it with the nerve of a category, a category equivalent to the point category with one morphism.



          If $X=G$ has a group structure then $F^bullet(G)$ is often called $EG$; it is a contractible space with free $G$-action.






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          You are overlooking some nondegenerate simplices. For example, when $X=0,1$ there are the $2$-cells $[0,1,0]$ and $[1,0,1]$. In fact, the thing you call $F^bullet(X)$ is infinite dimensional if $X$ has more than one element.



          It is contractible whenever $X$ is non-empty; this can be seen by identifying it with the nerve of a category, a category equivalent to the point category with one morphism.



          If $X=G$ has a group structure then $F^bullet(G)$ is often called $EG$; it is a contractible space with free $G$-action.







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          • $begingroup$
            Ah! Absolutely overlooked those, many thanks. Quick follow up: as an intermediate step, can we view $F^bullet(X)$ as the nerve of the category with objects the points $x in X$ and with a unique morphism $x to y$ for every 2 points $x, y in X$ (this is at least the case when $X= G$ a group and we build $EG$ as the nerve of the Cayley graph I think...)? Then including a point $x in X$ with its identity morphism would give an equivalence of categories ...
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          • $begingroup$
            Ah! Absolutely overlooked those, many thanks. Quick follow up: as an intermediate step, can we view $F^bullet(X)$ as the nerve of the category with objects the points $x in X$ and with a unique morphism $x to y$ for every 2 points $x, y in X$ (this is at least the case when $X= G$ a group and we build $EG$ as the nerve of the Cayley graph I think...)? Then including a point $x in X$ with its identity morphism would give an equivalence of categories ...
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          $begingroup$
          Ah! Absolutely overlooked those, many thanks. Quick follow up: as an intermediate step, can we view $F^bullet(X)$ as the nerve of the category with objects the points $x in X$ and with a unique morphism $x to y$ for every 2 points $x, y in X$ (this is at least the case when $X= G$ a group and we build $EG$ as the nerve of the Cayley graph I think...)? Then including a point $x in X$ with its identity morphism would give an equivalence of categories ...
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          Ah! Absolutely overlooked those, many thanks. Quick follow up: as an intermediate step, can we view $F^bullet(X)$ as the nerve of the category with objects the points $x in X$ and with a unique morphism $x to y$ for every 2 points $x, y in X$ (this is at least the case when $X= G$ a group and we build $EG$ as the nerve of the Cayley graph I think...)? Then including a point $x in X$ with its identity morphism would give an equivalence of categories ...
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