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I just watched Chernobyl Episode 2, and 3 heroic workers volunteer to sacrifice themselves and return to the power plant to take care of some water tanks.
In episode 1, Anatoly gave the order for two people* to go and pump water in the core (since he stubbornly thought it hadn't exploded).
Are these two events related? I mean, do the 3 heroes need to go in because of that catastrophic command of Anatoly?
These two people are shown in the hospital, ill, in episode 2, a slim guy, and another one with squared black glasses.
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I just watched Chernobyl Episode 2, and 3 heroic workers volunteer to sacrifice themselves and return to the power plant to take care of some water tanks.
In episode 1, Anatoly gave the order for two people* to go and pump water in the core (since he stubbornly thought it hadn't exploded).
Are these two events related? I mean, do the 3 heroes need to go in because of that catastrophic command of Anatoly?
These two people are shown in the hospital, ill, in episode 2, a slim guy, and another one with squared black glasses.
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I just watched Chernobyl Episode 2, and 3 heroic workers volunteer to sacrifice themselves and return to the power plant to take care of some water tanks.
In episode 1, Anatoly gave the order for two people* to go and pump water in the core (since he stubbornly thought it hadn't exploded).
Are these two events related? I mean, do the 3 heroes need to go in because of that catastrophic command of Anatoly?
These two people are shown in the hospital, ill, in episode 2, a slim guy, and another one with squared black glasses.
chernobyl
I just watched Chernobyl Episode 2, and 3 heroic workers volunteer to sacrifice themselves and return to the power plant to take care of some water tanks.
In episode 1, Anatoly gave the order for two people* to go and pump water in the core (since he stubbornly thought it hadn't exploded).
Are these two events related? I mean, do the 3 heroes need to go in because of that catastrophic command of Anatoly?
These two people are shown in the hospital, ill, in episode 2, a slim guy, and another one with squared black glasses.
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Are these two events related? Not entirely.
As you say, Anatoly Dyatlov is asking people to go and make sure water is pumped into the core because he is under the illusion that the core is undamaged and that it needs water to prevent a classic meltdown. This is where (even when the fission reaction is shut down) the breakdown of fission products generates enough heat over time to melt the fuel.
Akimov and Toptunov go and make sure water is running, by manually turning valves. However there was already water cooling the core before the incident, Dyatlov has only issued this order because they can't tell through the control panels whether there is water or not flowing.
Some of these valves were already open prior to the explosion. So the explosion is likely to have broken pipes and resulted in water spilling into the basement anyway. Akimov and Toptunov have to wade through some water to get to the valves.
Then there are the Firefighters. A large crew of Firefighters were trying to put out the fires in the building and (unknowingly) the reactor itself, and run a large number of hoses for a number of hours before its realized what dangers they are in. They are very likely to have contributed to the amount of water gathering under the reactor.
So (in my amateur opinion), there would likely have been a significant amount of water under the reactor anyway.
OK your Avatar I am already convinced. :) But you say that the false command of Anatoly contributed to the amount of water, thus the "Not entirely" answer. Is my understanding of your answer correct?
– gsamaras
7 hours ago
IIRC, in the show they mention the firefighters' hoses and the fact that no one had turned them off, so the basement had been filling with water since the first response. I don't recall them mentioning Dyatlov's command to run the pumps as a reason - the relative contribution is never explicitly stated, but I agree with your assessment that there would have been a problem whether or not the pumps were run.
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
@gsamaras There were main two sources of water ... the cooling water and the hosepipes . Dyatlov's order may have contributed, but by how much I don't think we could tell from the show, or from what I have read. It certainly contributed to the exposure of Akimov and Toptunov, who both died when Dyatlov survived.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
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Its worth noting that the show exaggerated the power of the potential steam explosion. For some reason they referred to it in 'megatons' ... on the level of a fusion/hydrogen bomb. It would have been bad, and spread more of the core in the environment, potentially making cleanup harder, but it would not have been an explosion of the scale indicated.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
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Oops - sorry. Its not that important to the plot fortunately.
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Are these two events related? Not entirely.
As you say, Anatoly Dyatlov is asking people to go and make sure water is pumped into the core because he is under the illusion that the core is undamaged and that it needs water to prevent a classic meltdown. This is where (even when the fission reaction is shut down) the breakdown of fission products generates enough heat over time to melt the fuel.
Akimov and Toptunov go and make sure water is running, by manually turning valves. However there was already water cooling the core before the incident, Dyatlov has only issued this order because they can't tell through the control panels whether there is water or not flowing.
Some of these valves were already open prior to the explosion. So the explosion is likely to have broken pipes and resulted in water spilling into the basement anyway. Akimov and Toptunov have to wade through some water to get to the valves.
Then there are the Firefighters. A large crew of Firefighters were trying to put out the fires in the building and (unknowingly) the reactor itself, and run a large number of hoses for a number of hours before its realized what dangers they are in. They are very likely to have contributed to the amount of water gathering under the reactor.
So (in my amateur opinion), there would likely have been a significant amount of water under the reactor anyway.
OK your Avatar I am already convinced. :) But you say that the false command of Anatoly contributed to the amount of water, thus the "Not entirely" answer. Is my understanding of your answer correct?
– gsamaras
7 hours ago
IIRC, in the show they mention the firefighters' hoses and the fact that no one had turned them off, so the basement had been filling with water since the first response. I don't recall them mentioning Dyatlov's command to run the pumps as a reason - the relative contribution is never explicitly stated, but I agree with your assessment that there would have been a problem whether or not the pumps were run.
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
@gsamaras There were main two sources of water ... the cooling water and the hosepipes . Dyatlov's order may have contributed, but by how much I don't think we could tell from the show, or from what I have read. It certainly contributed to the exposure of Akimov and Toptunov, who both died when Dyatlov survived.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
1
Its worth noting that the show exaggerated the power of the potential steam explosion. For some reason they referred to it in 'megatons' ... on the level of a fusion/hydrogen bomb. It would have been bad, and spread more of the core in the environment, potentially making cleanup harder, but it would not have been an explosion of the scale indicated.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
1
Oops - sorry. Its not that important to the plot fortunately.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
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Are these two events related? Not entirely.
As you say, Anatoly Dyatlov is asking people to go and make sure water is pumped into the core because he is under the illusion that the core is undamaged and that it needs water to prevent a classic meltdown. This is where (even when the fission reaction is shut down) the breakdown of fission products generates enough heat over time to melt the fuel.
Akimov and Toptunov go and make sure water is running, by manually turning valves. However there was already water cooling the core before the incident, Dyatlov has only issued this order because they can't tell through the control panels whether there is water or not flowing.
Some of these valves were already open prior to the explosion. So the explosion is likely to have broken pipes and resulted in water spilling into the basement anyway. Akimov and Toptunov have to wade through some water to get to the valves.
Then there are the Firefighters. A large crew of Firefighters were trying to put out the fires in the building and (unknowingly) the reactor itself, and run a large number of hoses for a number of hours before its realized what dangers they are in. They are very likely to have contributed to the amount of water gathering under the reactor.
So (in my amateur opinion), there would likely have been a significant amount of water under the reactor anyway.
OK your Avatar I am already convinced. :) But you say that the false command of Anatoly contributed to the amount of water, thus the "Not entirely" answer. Is my understanding of your answer correct?
– gsamaras
7 hours ago
IIRC, in the show they mention the firefighters' hoses and the fact that no one had turned them off, so the basement had been filling with water since the first response. I don't recall them mentioning Dyatlov's command to run the pumps as a reason - the relative contribution is never explicitly stated, but I agree with your assessment that there would have been a problem whether or not the pumps were run.
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
@gsamaras There were main two sources of water ... the cooling water and the hosepipes . Dyatlov's order may have contributed, but by how much I don't think we could tell from the show, or from what I have read. It certainly contributed to the exposure of Akimov and Toptunov, who both died when Dyatlov survived.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
1
Its worth noting that the show exaggerated the power of the potential steam explosion. For some reason they referred to it in 'megatons' ... on the level of a fusion/hydrogen bomb. It would have been bad, and spread more of the core in the environment, potentially making cleanup harder, but it would not have been an explosion of the scale indicated.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
1
Oops - sorry. Its not that important to the plot fortunately.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Are these two events related? Not entirely.
As you say, Anatoly Dyatlov is asking people to go and make sure water is pumped into the core because he is under the illusion that the core is undamaged and that it needs water to prevent a classic meltdown. This is where (even when the fission reaction is shut down) the breakdown of fission products generates enough heat over time to melt the fuel.
Akimov and Toptunov go and make sure water is running, by manually turning valves. However there was already water cooling the core before the incident, Dyatlov has only issued this order because they can't tell through the control panels whether there is water or not flowing.
Some of these valves were already open prior to the explosion. So the explosion is likely to have broken pipes and resulted in water spilling into the basement anyway. Akimov and Toptunov have to wade through some water to get to the valves.
Then there are the Firefighters. A large crew of Firefighters were trying to put out the fires in the building and (unknowingly) the reactor itself, and run a large number of hoses for a number of hours before its realized what dangers they are in. They are very likely to have contributed to the amount of water gathering under the reactor.
So (in my amateur opinion), there would likely have been a significant amount of water under the reactor anyway.
Are these two events related? Not entirely.
As you say, Anatoly Dyatlov is asking people to go and make sure water is pumped into the core because he is under the illusion that the core is undamaged and that it needs water to prevent a classic meltdown. This is where (even when the fission reaction is shut down) the breakdown of fission products generates enough heat over time to melt the fuel.
Akimov and Toptunov go and make sure water is running, by manually turning valves. However there was already water cooling the core before the incident, Dyatlov has only issued this order because they can't tell through the control panels whether there is water or not flowing.
Some of these valves were already open prior to the explosion. So the explosion is likely to have broken pipes and resulted in water spilling into the basement anyway. Akimov and Toptunov have to wade through some water to get to the valves.
Then there are the Firefighters. A large crew of Firefighters were trying to put out the fires in the building and (unknowingly) the reactor itself, and run a large number of hoses for a number of hours before its realized what dangers they are in. They are very likely to have contributed to the amount of water gathering under the reactor.
So (in my amateur opinion), there would likely have been a significant amount of water under the reactor anyway.
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OK your Avatar I am already convinced. :) But you say that the false command of Anatoly contributed to the amount of water, thus the "Not entirely" answer. Is my understanding of your answer correct?
– gsamaras
7 hours ago
IIRC, in the show they mention the firefighters' hoses and the fact that no one had turned them off, so the basement had been filling with water since the first response. I don't recall them mentioning Dyatlov's command to run the pumps as a reason - the relative contribution is never explicitly stated, but I agree with your assessment that there would have been a problem whether or not the pumps were run.
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
@gsamaras There were main two sources of water ... the cooling water and the hosepipes . Dyatlov's order may have contributed, but by how much I don't think we could tell from the show, or from what I have read. It certainly contributed to the exposure of Akimov and Toptunov, who both died when Dyatlov survived.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
1
Its worth noting that the show exaggerated the power of the potential steam explosion. For some reason they referred to it in 'megatons' ... on the level of a fusion/hydrogen bomb. It would have been bad, and spread more of the core in the environment, potentially making cleanup harder, but it would not have been an explosion of the scale indicated.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
1
Oops - sorry. Its not that important to the plot fortunately.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
OK your Avatar I am already convinced. :) But you say that the false command of Anatoly contributed to the amount of water, thus the "Not entirely" answer. Is my understanding of your answer correct?
– gsamaras
7 hours ago
IIRC, in the show they mention the firefighters' hoses and the fact that no one had turned them off, so the basement had been filling with water since the first response. I don't recall them mentioning Dyatlov's command to run the pumps as a reason - the relative contribution is never explicitly stated, but I agree with your assessment that there would have been a problem whether or not the pumps were run.
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
@gsamaras There were main two sources of water ... the cooling water and the hosepipes . Dyatlov's order may have contributed, but by how much I don't think we could tell from the show, or from what I have read. It certainly contributed to the exposure of Akimov and Toptunov, who both died when Dyatlov survived.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
1
Its worth noting that the show exaggerated the power of the potential steam explosion. For some reason they referred to it in 'megatons' ... on the level of a fusion/hydrogen bomb. It would have been bad, and spread more of the core in the environment, potentially making cleanup harder, but it would not have been an explosion of the scale indicated.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
1
Oops - sorry. Its not that important to the plot fortunately.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
OK your Avatar I am already convinced. :) But you say that the false command of Anatoly contributed to the amount of water, thus the "Not entirely" answer. Is my understanding of your answer correct?
– gsamaras
7 hours ago
OK your Avatar I am already convinced. :) But you say that the false command of Anatoly contributed to the amount of water, thus the "Not entirely" answer. Is my understanding of your answer correct?
– gsamaras
7 hours ago
IIRC, in the show they mention the firefighters' hoses and the fact that no one had turned them off, so the basement had been filling with water since the first response. I don't recall them mentioning Dyatlov's command to run the pumps as a reason - the relative contribution is never explicitly stated, but I agree with your assessment that there would have been a problem whether or not the pumps were run.
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
IIRC, in the show they mention the firefighters' hoses and the fact that no one had turned them off, so the basement had been filling with water since the first response. I don't recall them mentioning Dyatlov's command to run the pumps as a reason - the relative contribution is never explicitly stated, but I agree with your assessment that there would have been a problem whether or not the pumps were run.
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
@gsamaras There were main two sources of water ... the cooling water and the hosepipes . Dyatlov's order may have contributed, but by how much I don't think we could tell from the show, or from what I have read. It certainly contributed to the exposure of Akimov and Toptunov, who both died when Dyatlov survived.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
@gsamaras There were main two sources of water ... the cooling water and the hosepipes . Dyatlov's order may have contributed, but by how much I don't think we could tell from the show, or from what I have read. It certainly contributed to the exposure of Akimov and Toptunov, who both died when Dyatlov survived.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
1
1
Its worth noting that the show exaggerated the power of the potential steam explosion. For some reason they referred to it in 'megatons' ... on the level of a fusion/hydrogen bomb. It would have been bad, and spread more of the core in the environment, potentially making cleanup harder, but it would not have been an explosion of the scale indicated.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
Its worth noting that the show exaggerated the power of the potential steam explosion. For some reason they referred to it in 'megatons' ... on the level of a fusion/hydrogen bomb. It would have been bad, and spread more of the core in the environment, potentially making cleanup harder, but it would not have been an explosion of the scale indicated.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
1
1
Oops - sorry. Its not that important to the plot fortunately.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
Oops - sorry. Its not that important to the plot fortunately.
– iandotkelly♦
7 hours ago
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