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Can someone please explain, intuitively (without any formula, I understand the formulas), why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors in series is less than the any individual capacitor's capacitance?



PS: Let's take a simple case. Say we have 2 capacitors with Capacitance 2 (ignoring units), and we place them in series. A voltage $V$ develops in both, and a charge $+Q$ acculumates on one of their plates. Using the capacitance formulas, the equivalent capacitance is $1/2$ the original. Indeed we get $Q/2V$, where $Q/V$ is the original capacitance. But why? aren't we in total acculumating a charge of $2Q$ over a potential difference of $2V$? Why just $1Q$? (again, I'm speaking intuitively)










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    Is it intuitive for you that for capacitors in parallel, the equivalent capacitance is equal to the sum of all the capacitors?
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    Actually, I haven't thought about that case yet, because the book I'm using presents the series equations first. Are you suggesting that understanding the parallel case sheds light on this case?
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    Not necessarily, but I think the parallel case is easier to understand than the series case, so to me it makes sense to consider it first.
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    @PM2Ring you're right, I just read that section, and it actually makes sense why you would add the capacitances. In a way, it's like you're increasing the area by adding in parallel for the same voltage drop. But the series case still doesn't quite make sense to me.
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Can someone please explain, intuitively (without any formula, I understand the formulas), why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors in series is less than the any individual capacitor's capacitance?



PS: Let's take a simple case. Say we have 2 capacitors with Capacitance 2 (ignoring units), and we place them in series. A voltage $V$ develops in both, and a charge $+Q$ acculumates on one of their plates. Using the capacitance formulas, the equivalent capacitance is $1/2$ the original. Indeed we get $Q/2V$, where $Q/V$ is the original capacitance. But why? aren't we in total acculumating a charge of $2Q$ over a potential difference of $2V$? Why just $1Q$? (again, I'm speaking intuitively)










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    Is it intuitive for you that for capacitors in parallel, the equivalent capacitance is equal to the sum of all the capacitors?
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    Actually, I haven't thought about that case yet, because the book I'm using presents the series equations first. Are you suggesting that understanding the parallel case sheds light on this case?
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    Well, for one thing the first capacitor has to charge and then discharge before the second capacitor can charge.
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    Not necessarily, but I think the parallel case is easier to understand than the series case, so to me it makes sense to consider it first.
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    @PM2Ring you're right, I just read that section, and it actually makes sense why you would add the capacitances. In a way, it's like you're increasing the area by adding in parallel for the same voltage drop. But the series case still doesn't quite make sense to me.
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Can someone please explain, intuitively (without any formula, I understand the formulas), why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors in series is less than the any individual capacitor's capacitance?



PS: Let's take a simple case. Say we have 2 capacitors with Capacitance 2 (ignoring units), and we place them in series. A voltage $V$ develops in both, and a charge $+Q$ acculumates on one of their plates. Using the capacitance formulas, the equivalent capacitance is $1/2$ the original. Indeed we get $Q/2V$, where $Q/V$ is the original capacitance. But why? aren't we in total acculumating a charge of $2Q$ over a potential difference of $2V$? Why just $1Q$? (again, I'm speaking intuitively)










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Can someone please explain, intuitively (without any formula, I understand the formulas), why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors in series is less than the any individual capacitor's capacitance?



PS: Let's take a simple case. Say we have 2 capacitors with Capacitance 2 (ignoring units), and we place them in series. A voltage $V$ develops in both, and a charge $+Q$ acculumates on one of their plates. Using the capacitance formulas, the equivalent capacitance is $1/2$ the original. Indeed we get $Q/2V$, where $Q/V$ is the original capacitance. But why? aren't we in total acculumating a charge of $2Q$ over a potential difference of $2V$? Why just $1Q$? (again, I'm speaking intuitively)







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    Is it intuitive for you that for capacitors in parallel, the equivalent capacitance is equal to the sum of all the capacitors?
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    Well, for one thing the first capacitor has to charge and then discharge before the second capacitor can charge.
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    Not necessarily, but I think the parallel case is easier to understand than the series case, so to me it makes sense to consider it first.
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    @PM2Ring you're right, I just read that section, and it actually makes sense why you would add the capacitances. In a way, it's like you're increasing the area by adding in parallel for the same voltage drop. But the series case still doesn't quite make sense to me.
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    Is it intuitive for you that for capacitors in parallel, the equivalent capacitance is equal to the sum of all the capacitors?
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    Actually, I haven't thought about that case yet, because the book I'm using presents the series equations first. Are you suggesting that understanding the parallel case sheds light on this case?
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    Well, for one thing the first capacitor has to charge and then discharge before the second capacitor can charge.
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    Not necessarily, but I think the parallel case is easier to understand than the series case, so to me it makes sense to consider it first.
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    @PM2Ring you're right, I just read that section, and it actually makes sense why you would add the capacitances. In a way, it's like you're increasing the area by adding in parallel for the same voltage drop. But the series case still doesn't quite make sense to me.
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Is it intuitive for you that for capacitors in parallel, the equivalent capacitance is equal to the sum of all the capacitors?
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Actually, I haven't thought about that case yet, because the book I'm using presents the series equations first. Are you suggesting that understanding the parallel case sheds light on this case?
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Well, for one thing the first capacitor has to charge and then discharge before the second capacitor can charge.
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Can someone please explain, intuitively (without any formula, I
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in series is less than the any individual capacitor's capacitance?




I assume you know that the larger the capacitor plates are, the greater the capacitance, all other things being equal. Also I assume you know the greater the separation of the plates (the thicker the dielectric between the plates) the less the capacitance all other things being equal. Given these assumptions, consider the diagrams below.



The top diagram to the left shows two capacitors in parallel. It is equivalent to the digram to the top right. If two or more capacitors are connected in parallel, the overall effect is that of a single (equivalent) capacitor having a total plate area equal to the sum of the plate areas of the individual capacitors. Thus for parallel capacitors the equivalent capacitance is the sum of the capacitances.



The bottom diagram to the left shows two capacitors in series. It is equivalent to the diagram to the bottom right. If two or more capacitors are connected in series, the overall effect is that of a single (equivalent) capacitor having the sum total of the plate spacings of the individual capacitors. Thus for series capacitors the equivalent capacitor is less than the individual capacitors.



For reference the diagram includes an equation for capacitance based on the physical parameters of plate area $A$, plate separation $d$, and electrical permittivity $e$ of the dielectric.



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    Bob, thank you for your answer. This is starting to make sense. But do you mind elaborating a teeny bit more on why the total charge for the series case is Q not 2Q?
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The voltage change across a capacitor, or any region of space, is the negative path integral of field dot path. So if two capacitors are placed in series, you have twice the distance for the path integral, compared to one capacitor by itself. Now, since the distance is doubled, to get a final voltage equal to the battery that charges it, the electric field only needs to be 1/2 the electric field of the single capacitor. Since the electric field is proportional to the charge density, you only need 1/2 the charge density that would be on the single capacitor, so C = (Qsingle/2)/V.






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    why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors in series is less than
    the any individual capacitor's capacitance?




    To help build your intuition, place in series with another capacitor an ideal parallel plate capacitor (vacuum dielectric for simplicity), with plate spacing $d$. Now consider the limit as the distance $d$ goes to zero (assume zero initial charge).



    Intuitively, the capacitance of the ideal parallel plate capacitor increases without bound and what's left in the limit is, effectively, an ideal short circuit when $d = 0$ (the two plates touch).



    That is, the series combination of two capacitors has become a capacitor in series with an ideal short circuit. Clearly, the combined capacitance is just the capacitance of the remaining capacitor.



    Now, hold the spacing $d$ constant and let the plate area $A$ go to zero instead. Intuitively, the capacitance of the ideal plate capacitor goes to zero and what's left in the limit is, effectively, an ideal open circuit.



    That is, the series combination of two capacitors has become a capacitor in series with an ideal open circuit. Clearly, the combined capacitance is zero.



    It follows that the total capacitance for two series capacitors with finite capacitance is less than the smaller of the two capacitances






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      Can someone please explain, intuitively (without any formula, I
      understand the formulas), why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors
      in series is less than the any individual capacitor's capacitance?




      I assume you know that the larger the capacitor plates are, the greater the capacitance, all other things being equal. Also I assume you know the greater the separation of the plates (the thicker the dielectric between the plates) the less the capacitance all other things being equal. Given these assumptions, consider the diagrams below.



      The top diagram to the left shows two capacitors in parallel. It is equivalent to the digram to the top right. If two or more capacitors are connected in parallel, the overall effect is that of a single (equivalent) capacitor having a total plate area equal to the sum of the plate areas of the individual capacitors. Thus for parallel capacitors the equivalent capacitance is the sum of the capacitances.



      The bottom diagram to the left shows two capacitors in series. It is equivalent to the diagram to the bottom right. If two or more capacitors are connected in series, the overall effect is that of a single (equivalent) capacitor having the sum total of the plate spacings of the individual capacitors. Thus for series capacitors the equivalent capacitor is less than the individual capacitors.



      For reference the diagram includes an equation for capacitance based on the physical parameters of plate area $A$, plate separation $d$, and electrical permittivity $e$ of the dielectric.



      Hope this helps.



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        Bob, thank you for your answer. This is starting to make sense. But do you mind elaborating a teeny bit more on why the total charge for the series case is Q not 2Q?
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        Because it seems to me that the overall effect of having two plates in series each with charge Q would give 2Q
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      Can someone please explain, intuitively (without any formula, I
      understand the formulas), why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors
      in series is less than the any individual capacitor's capacitance?




      I assume you know that the larger the capacitor plates are, the greater the capacitance, all other things being equal. Also I assume you know the greater the separation of the plates (the thicker the dielectric between the plates) the less the capacitance all other things being equal. Given these assumptions, consider the diagrams below.



      The top diagram to the left shows two capacitors in parallel. It is equivalent to the digram to the top right. If two or more capacitors are connected in parallel, the overall effect is that of a single (equivalent) capacitor having a total plate area equal to the sum of the plate areas of the individual capacitors. Thus for parallel capacitors the equivalent capacitance is the sum of the capacitances.



      The bottom diagram to the left shows two capacitors in series. It is equivalent to the diagram to the bottom right. If two or more capacitors are connected in series, the overall effect is that of a single (equivalent) capacitor having the sum total of the plate spacings of the individual capacitors. Thus for series capacitors the equivalent capacitor is less than the individual capacitors.



      For reference the diagram includes an equation for capacitance based on the physical parameters of plate area $A$, plate separation $d$, and electrical permittivity $e$ of the dielectric.



      Hope this helps.



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        Bob, thank you for your answer. This is starting to make sense. But do you mind elaborating a teeny bit more on why the total charge for the series case is Q not 2Q?
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        Because it seems to me that the overall effect of having two plates in series each with charge Q would give 2Q
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      Can someone please explain, intuitively (without any formula, I
      understand the formulas), why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors
      in series is less than the any individual capacitor's capacitance?




      I assume you know that the larger the capacitor plates are, the greater the capacitance, all other things being equal. Also I assume you know the greater the separation of the plates (the thicker the dielectric between the plates) the less the capacitance all other things being equal. Given these assumptions, consider the diagrams below.



      The top diagram to the left shows two capacitors in parallel. It is equivalent to the digram to the top right. If two or more capacitors are connected in parallel, the overall effect is that of a single (equivalent) capacitor having a total plate area equal to the sum of the plate areas of the individual capacitors. Thus for parallel capacitors the equivalent capacitance is the sum of the capacitances.



      The bottom diagram to the left shows two capacitors in series. It is equivalent to the diagram to the bottom right. If two or more capacitors are connected in series, the overall effect is that of a single (equivalent) capacitor having the sum total of the plate spacings of the individual capacitors. Thus for series capacitors the equivalent capacitor is less than the individual capacitors.



      For reference the diagram includes an equation for capacitance based on the physical parameters of plate area $A$, plate separation $d$, and electrical permittivity $e$ of the dielectric.



      Hope this helps.



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      Can someone please explain, intuitively (without any formula, I
      understand the formulas), why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors
      in series is less than the any individual capacitor's capacitance?




      I assume you know that the larger the capacitor plates are, the greater the capacitance, all other things being equal. Also I assume you know the greater the separation of the plates (the thicker the dielectric between the plates) the less the capacitance all other things being equal. Given these assumptions, consider the diagrams below.



      The top diagram to the left shows two capacitors in parallel. It is equivalent to the digram to the top right. If two or more capacitors are connected in parallel, the overall effect is that of a single (equivalent) capacitor having a total plate area equal to the sum of the plate areas of the individual capacitors. Thus for parallel capacitors the equivalent capacitance is the sum of the capacitances.



      The bottom diagram to the left shows two capacitors in series. It is equivalent to the diagram to the bottom right. If two or more capacitors are connected in series, the overall effect is that of a single (equivalent) capacitor having the sum total of the plate spacings of the individual capacitors. Thus for series capacitors the equivalent capacitor is less than the individual capacitors.



      For reference the diagram includes an equation for capacitance based on the physical parameters of plate area $A$, plate separation $d$, and electrical permittivity $e$ of the dielectric.



      Hope this helps.



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        Because it seems to me that the overall effect of having two plates in series each with charge Q would give 2Q
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        Because it seems to me that the overall effect of having two plates in series each with charge Q would give 2Q
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      The voltage change across a capacitor, or any region of space, is the negative path integral of field dot path. So if two capacitors are placed in series, you have twice the distance for the path integral, compared to one capacitor by itself. Now, since the distance is doubled, to get a final voltage equal to the battery that charges it, the electric field only needs to be 1/2 the electric field of the single capacitor. Since the electric field is proportional to the charge density, you only need 1/2 the charge density that would be on the single capacitor, so C = (Qsingle/2)/V.






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        The voltage change across a capacitor, or any region of space, is the negative path integral of field dot path. So if two capacitors are placed in series, you have twice the distance for the path integral, compared to one capacitor by itself. Now, since the distance is doubled, to get a final voltage equal to the battery that charges it, the electric field only needs to be 1/2 the electric field of the single capacitor. Since the electric field is proportional to the charge density, you only need 1/2 the charge density that would be on the single capacitor, so C = (Qsingle/2)/V.






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          The voltage change across a capacitor, or any region of space, is the negative path integral of field dot path. So if two capacitors are placed in series, you have twice the distance for the path integral, compared to one capacitor by itself. Now, since the distance is doubled, to get a final voltage equal to the battery that charges it, the electric field only needs to be 1/2 the electric field of the single capacitor. Since the electric field is proportional to the charge density, you only need 1/2 the charge density that would be on the single capacitor, so C = (Qsingle/2)/V.






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          The voltage change across a capacitor, or any region of space, is the negative path integral of field dot path. So if two capacitors are placed in series, you have twice the distance for the path integral, compared to one capacitor by itself. Now, since the distance is doubled, to get a final voltage equal to the battery that charges it, the electric field only needs to be 1/2 the electric field of the single capacitor. Since the electric field is proportional to the charge density, you only need 1/2 the charge density that would be on the single capacitor, so C = (Qsingle/2)/V.







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              why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors in series is less than
              the any individual capacitor's capacitance?




              To help build your intuition, place in series with another capacitor an ideal parallel plate capacitor (vacuum dielectric for simplicity), with plate spacing $d$. Now consider the limit as the distance $d$ goes to zero (assume zero initial charge).



              Intuitively, the capacitance of the ideal parallel plate capacitor increases without bound and what's left in the limit is, effectively, an ideal short circuit when $d = 0$ (the two plates touch).



              That is, the series combination of two capacitors has become a capacitor in series with an ideal short circuit. Clearly, the combined capacitance is just the capacitance of the remaining capacitor.



              Now, hold the spacing $d$ constant and let the plate area $A$ go to zero instead. Intuitively, the capacitance of the ideal plate capacitor goes to zero and what's left in the limit is, effectively, an ideal open circuit.



              That is, the series combination of two capacitors has become a capacitor in series with an ideal open circuit. Clearly, the combined capacitance is zero.



              It follows that the total capacitance for two series capacitors with finite capacitance is less than the smaller of the two capacitances






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                why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors in series is less than
                the any individual capacitor's capacitance?




                To help build your intuition, place in series with another capacitor an ideal parallel plate capacitor (vacuum dielectric for simplicity), with plate spacing $d$. Now consider the limit as the distance $d$ goes to zero (assume zero initial charge).



                Intuitively, the capacitance of the ideal parallel plate capacitor increases without bound and what's left in the limit is, effectively, an ideal short circuit when $d = 0$ (the two plates touch).



                That is, the series combination of two capacitors has become a capacitor in series with an ideal short circuit. Clearly, the combined capacitance is just the capacitance of the remaining capacitor.



                Now, hold the spacing $d$ constant and let the plate area $A$ go to zero instead. Intuitively, the capacitance of the ideal plate capacitor goes to zero and what's left in the limit is, effectively, an ideal open circuit.



                That is, the series combination of two capacitors has become a capacitor in series with an ideal open circuit. Clearly, the combined capacitance is zero.



                It follows that the total capacitance for two series capacitors with finite capacitance is less than the smaller of the two capacitances






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                  why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors in series is less than
                  the any individual capacitor's capacitance?




                  To help build your intuition, place in series with another capacitor an ideal parallel plate capacitor (vacuum dielectric for simplicity), with plate spacing $d$. Now consider the limit as the distance $d$ goes to zero (assume zero initial charge).



                  Intuitively, the capacitance of the ideal parallel plate capacitor increases without bound and what's left in the limit is, effectively, an ideal short circuit when $d = 0$ (the two plates touch).



                  That is, the series combination of two capacitors has become a capacitor in series with an ideal short circuit. Clearly, the combined capacitance is just the capacitance of the remaining capacitor.



                  Now, hold the spacing $d$ constant and let the plate area $A$ go to zero instead. Intuitively, the capacitance of the ideal plate capacitor goes to zero and what's left in the limit is, effectively, an ideal open circuit.



                  That is, the series combination of two capacitors has become a capacitor in series with an ideal open circuit. Clearly, the combined capacitance is zero.



                  It follows that the total capacitance for two series capacitors with finite capacitance is less than the smaller of the two capacitances






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                  why the equivalent capacitance of capacitors in series is less than
                  the any individual capacitor's capacitance?




                  To help build your intuition, place in series with another capacitor an ideal parallel plate capacitor (vacuum dielectric for simplicity), with plate spacing $d$. Now consider the limit as the distance $d$ goes to zero (assume zero initial charge).



                  Intuitively, the capacitance of the ideal parallel plate capacitor increases without bound and what's left in the limit is, effectively, an ideal short circuit when $d = 0$ (the two plates touch).



                  That is, the series combination of two capacitors has become a capacitor in series with an ideal short circuit. Clearly, the combined capacitance is just the capacitance of the remaining capacitor.



                  Now, hold the spacing $d$ constant and let the plate area $A$ go to zero instead. Intuitively, the capacitance of the ideal plate capacitor goes to zero and what's left in the limit is, effectively, an ideal open circuit.



                  That is, the series combination of two capacitors has become a capacitor in series with an ideal open circuit. Clearly, the combined capacitance is zero.



                  It follows that the total capacitance for two series capacitors with finite capacitance is less than the smaller of the two capacitances







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