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Contacting 'references' that are not on the reference list
Who do you list as your supervisor from a previous job, and do the usual “rules of references” still apply?Are “Reference Lists” a thing of the past?References not checkedreference or references for resuméWhat are the odds of software companies contacting references at the time of job offer?Will insubstantial reference list be detriment to job search?Are references important in the Netherlands?How can I avoid the job I'm applying for contacting my current supervisor as a reference, and instead contacting my direct manager?
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I found out that the CEO/hiring manager finds non-listed 'references' (generally via LinkedIn) for the later-stage candidates, and contacts them without asking permission. These non-listed references are generally strangers to the CEO/hiring manager.
Is contacting references like in this situation allowed and/or ethical? I'd hope my LinkedIn/social media contacts had positive things to say about me, but I'd be offended if I knew the company did this while I was interviewing.
interviewing references
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I found out that the CEO/hiring manager finds non-listed 'references' (generally via LinkedIn) for the later-stage candidates, and contacts them without asking permission. These non-listed references are generally strangers to the CEO/hiring manager.
Is contacting references like in this situation allowed and/or ethical? I'd hope my LinkedIn/social media contacts had positive things to say about me, but I'd be offended if I knew the company did this while I was interviewing.
interviewing references
asked Oct 16 at 16:55
Th3F001Th3F001
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Can you list your location? I'm wondering if this may differ from place to place.
– dwizum
Oct 16 at 17:00
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Located in US. Would be offended because of the lack of transparency and if the non-listed contact could jeopardize relations at a current job.
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
1
@JoeStrazzere what if the linkedin contact is current boss / coworker? Or friend of current boss / coworker?
– DaveG
Oct 16 at 18:18
1
@JoeStrazzere, I wouldn't be offended. I would be angry - as if my current employer were to be contacted regarding my job search I can guarantee I would be terminated (they have fired people for asking to use management for a reference) and gaslit people looking for work.
– Crosbonaught
Oct 16 at 19:10
That is what happened to me. Lucky thing, the person they contacted didn't work at my previous employer anymore. They just forgot to update their profile.
– Max A.
Oct 17 at 2:51
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I found out that the CEO/hiring manager finds non-listed 'references' (generally via LinkedIn) for the later-stage candidates, and contacts them without asking permission. These non-listed references are generally strangers to the CEO/hiring manager.
Is contacting references like in this situation allowed and/or ethical? I'd hope my LinkedIn/social media contacts had positive things to say about me, but I'd be offended if I knew the company did this while I was interviewing.
interviewing references
asked Oct 16 at 16:55
Th3F001Th3F001
793 bronze badges
I found out that the CEO/hiring manager finds non-listed 'references' (generally via LinkedIn) for the later-stage candidates, and contacts them without asking permission. These non-listed references are generally strangers to the CEO/hiring manager.
Is contacting references like in this situation allowed and/or ethical? I'd hope my LinkedIn/social media contacts had positive things to say about me, but I'd be offended if I knew the company did this while I was interviewing.
interviewing references
interviewing references
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Th3F001Th3F001
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asked Oct 16 at 16:55
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Can you list your location? I'm wondering if this may differ from place to place.
– dwizum
Oct 16 at 17:00
4
Located in US. Would be offended because of the lack of transparency and if the non-listed contact could jeopardize relations at a current job.
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
1
@JoeStrazzere what if the linkedin contact is current boss / coworker? Or friend of current boss / coworker?
– DaveG
Oct 16 at 18:18
1
@JoeStrazzere, I wouldn't be offended. I would be angry - as if my current employer were to be contacted regarding my job search I can guarantee I would be terminated (they have fired people for asking to use management for a reference) and gaslit people looking for work.
– Crosbonaught
Oct 16 at 19:10
That is what happened to me. Lucky thing, the person they contacted didn't work at my previous employer anymore. They just forgot to update their profile.
– Max A.
Oct 17 at 2:51
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2
Can you list your location? I'm wondering if this may differ from place to place.
– dwizum
Oct 16 at 17:00
4
Located in US. Would be offended because of the lack of transparency and if the non-listed contact could jeopardize relations at a current job.
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
1
@JoeStrazzere what if the linkedin contact is current boss / coworker? Or friend of current boss / coworker?
– DaveG
Oct 16 at 18:18
1
@JoeStrazzere, I wouldn't be offended. I would be angry - as if my current employer were to be contacted regarding my job search I can guarantee I would be terminated (they have fired people for asking to use management for a reference) and gaslit people looking for work.
– Crosbonaught
Oct 16 at 19:10
That is what happened to me. Lucky thing, the person they contacted didn't work at my previous employer anymore. They just forgot to update their profile.
– Max A.
Oct 17 at 2:51
2
2
Can you list your location? I'm wondering if this may differ from place to place.
– dwizum
Oct 16 at 17:00
Can you list your location? I'm wondering if this may differ from place to place.
– dwizum
Oct 16 at 17:00
4
4
Located in US. Would be offended because of the lack of transparency and if the non-listed contact could jeopardize relations at a current job.
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
Located in US. Would be offended because of the lack of transparency and if the non-listed contact could jeopardize relations at a current job.
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
1
1
@JoeStrazzere what if the linkedin contact is current boss / coworker? Or friend of current boss / coworker?
– DaveG
Oct 16 at 18:18
@JoeStrazzere what if the linkedin contact is current boss / coworker? Or friend of current boss / coworker?
– DaveG
Oct 16 at 18:18
1
1
@JoeStrazzere, I wouldn't be offended. I would be angry - as if my current employer were to be contacted regarding my job search I can guarantee I would be terminated (they have fired people for asking to use management for a reference) and gaslit people looking for work.
– Crosbonaught
Oct 16 at 19:10
@JoeStrazzere, I wouldn't be offended. I would be angry - as if my current employer were to be contacted regarding my job search I can guarantee I would be terminated (they have fired people for asking to use management for a reference) and gaslit people looking for work.
– Crosbonaught
Oct 16 at 19:10
That is what happened to me. Lucky thing, the person they contacted didn't work at my previous employer anymore. They just forgot to update their profile.
– Max A.
Oct 17 at 2:51
That is what happened to me. Lucky thing, the person they contacted didn't work at my previous employer anymore. They just forgot to update their profile.
– Max A.
Oct 17 at 2:51
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In my experience the right way to go about it is to ask the candidate if they can provide additional references if you need them. Contacting non-listed references is, in my opinion, a violation of privacy (I don't mean this in a legal way, it's perfectly legal).
If you need more references to make a decision, you contact a candidate and ask them to provide additional references. This shows respect to the candidates privacy. Expecting a candidate to explicitly ask for non-listed references to not be contacted is, in my opinion not good practice. This is because a resume asking that non-listed references not be contacted automatically seems suspicious.
It might be different in the US or other countries, it mostly is, but that's how it is in Switzerland from my experience.
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First, I find this practice incredibly distasteful and unprofessional.
All job applications should be submitted in confidence. As a hiring manager, you (we) don't know if the candidate is leaving a job quietly, or not. And by contacting "backdoor references" or "non-listed references" you could jeopardize their situation even more. This puts the candidate in an unfair position, especially should they (worst case) get terminated from their current position for looking for work.
Now, if you found the references unacceptable or unsuitable, as a hiring manager it is your prerogative and reasonable to ask for more - or why a person/position was not utilized. However, this too, often puts a candidate in a less than ideal position. As this conversation can lead them to "bad mouth" their current employer inadvertently (or what they say can be perceived as such) - which is also an interview "no-no". If you must ask "why" do so, expecting a response which may be less than apolitical about their current employer, and take into account your question with their response - in terms, of tone, reasoning and adequacy. This way you are not penalizing them and negatively affecting their application for a difficult and (depending on your wording) distasteful question.
As far as your question if this practice is allowed, yes it is. Is it ethical, that I believe is a "no".
answered Oct 16 at 19:19
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Is contacting references like in this situation allowed and/or ethical?
Unless a candidate has explicitly indicated that they did not want certain organizations/individuals contacted then this is OK. Considering that they are using publicly available information to contact these people ( i.e. social media ) there is nothing unethical about this practice.
With regards to lack of transparency, I think it is understood that any good business will perform their due diligence in determining whether a candidate is the best choice for their company.
answered Oct 16 at 17:32
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Is contacting references like this situation allowed and/or ethical?
Yes, it's allowed. IMHO, it's perfectly ethical to talk to anyone who might know about your abilities before offering you a job,, other than someone at your current employer.
My boss used to call this "back door references" and it was routine.
I'd hope my LinkedIn/social media contacts had positive things to say
about me, but I'd be offended if I knew the company did this while I
was interviewing.
I have no idea why this would offend you, but you can always decline any offer from a company that did this if you found out.
And presumably the contact would give you notification about it.
answered Oct 16 at 17:00
Joe StrazzereJoe Strazzere
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The fact that a candidate applied should be(is) confidential. Any employer that would disclose it, without asking would be a deal-breaker to me.
– Jeffrey supports Monica
Oct 16 at 17:13
12
Offended? No. Extremely upset? Definitely. Leaking your application to a 3rd party might have repercussions, it might be acceptable only after the candidate received and accepted an offer.
– Adriano Repetti
Oct 16 at 17:20
Thanks for the reply!
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
3
Declining an offer doesn't really make up for things if you got fired as a result of this.
– Kathy
Oct 16 at 21:37
1
+1. This is a called a "background check." Like it or not, it's a smart move for a hiring company. But doing it effectively in a way that doesn't mess with either the hiring company's reputation or the candidate's reputation takes a lot of skill and finesse. Hiring managers: don't do this naively or you could make a big mess.
– O. Jones
Oct 17 at 15:08
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In my experience the right way to go about it is to ask the candidate if they can provide additional references if you need them. Contacting non-listed references is, in my opinion, a violation of privacy (I don't mean this in a legal way, it's perfectly legal).
If you need more references to make a decision, you contact a candidate and ask them to provide additional references. This shows respect to the candidates privacy. Expecting a candidate to explicitly ask for non-listed references to not be contacted is, in my opinion not good practice. This is because a resume asking that non-listed references not be contacted automatically seems suspicious.
It might be different in the US or other countries, it mostly is, but that's how it is in Switzerland from my experience.
add a comment
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In my experience the right way to go about it is to ask the candidate if they can provide additional references if you need them. Contacting non-listed references is, in my opinion, a violation of privacy (I don't mean this in a legal way, it's perfectly legal).
If you need more references to make a decision, you contact a candidate and ask them to provide additional references. This shows respect to the candidates privacy. Expecting a candidate to explicitly ask for non-listed references to not be contacted is, in my opinion not good practice. This is because a resume asking that non-listed references not be contacted automatically seems suspicious.
It might be different in the US or other countries, it mostly is, but that's how it is in Switzerland from my experience.
add a comment
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In my experience the right way to go about it is to ask the candidate if they can provide additional references if you need them. Contacting non-listed references is, in my opinion, a violation of privacy (I don't mean this in a legal way, it's perfectly legal).
If you need more references to make a decision, you contact a candidate and ask them to provide additional references. This shows respect to the candidates privacy. Expecting a candidate to explicitly ask for non-listed references to not be contacted is, in my opinion not good practice. This is because a resume asking that non-listed references not be contacted automatically seems suspicious.
It might be different in the US or other countries, it mostly is, but that's how it is in Switzerland from my experience.
In my experience the right way to go about it is to ask the candidate if they can provide additional references if you need them. Contacting non-listed references is, in my opinion, a violation of privacy (I don't mean this in a legal way, it's perfectly legal).
If you need more references to make a decision, you contact a candidate and ask them to provide additional references. This shows respect to the candidates privacy. Expecting a candidate to explicitly ask for non-listed references to not be contacted is, in my opinion not good practice. This is because a resume asking that non-listed references not be contacted automatically seems suspicious.
It might be different in the US or other countries, it mostly is, but that's how it is in Switzerland from my experience.
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First, I find this practice incredibly distasteful and unprofessional.
All job applications should be submitted in confidence. As a hiring manager, you (we) don't know if the candidate is leaving a job quietly, or not. And by contacting "backdoor references" or "non-listed references" you could jeopardize their situation even more. This puts the candidate in an unfair position, especially should they (worst case) get terminated from their current position for looking for work.
Now, if you found the references unacceptable or unsuitable, as a hiring manager it is your prerogative and reasonable to ask for more - or why a person/position was not utilized. However, this too, often puts a candidate in a less than ideal position. As this conversation can lead them to "bad mouth" their current employer inadvertently (or what they say can be perceived as such) - which is also an interview "no-no". If you must ask "why" do so, expecting a response which may be less than apolitical about their current employer, and take into account your question with their response - in terms, of tone, reasoning and adequacy. This way you are not penalizing them and negatively affecting their application for a difficult and (depending on your wording) distasteful question.
As far as your question if this practice is allowed, yes it is. Is it ethical, that I believe is a "no".
answered Oct 16 at 19:19
CrosbonaughtCrosbonaught
8121 silver badge17 bronze badges
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First, I find this practice incredibly distasteful and unprofessional.
All job applications should be submitted in confidence. As a hiring manager, you (we) don't know if the candidate is leaving a job quietly, or not. And by contacting "backdoor references" or "non-listed references" you could jeopardize their situation even more. This puts the candidate in an unfair position, especially should they (worst case) get terminated from their current position for looking for work.
Now, if you found the references unacceptable or unsuitable, as a hiring manager it is your prerogative and reasonable to ask for more - or why a person/position was not utilized. However, this too, often puts a candidate in a less than ideal position. As this conversation can lead them to "bad mouth" their current employer inadvertently (or what they say can be perceived as such) - which is also an interview "no-no". If you must ask "why" do so, expecting a response which may be less than apolitical about their current employer, and take into account your question with their response - in terms, of tone, reasoning and adequacy. This way you are not penalizing them and negatively affecting their application for a difficult and (depending on your wording) distasteful question.
As far as your question if this practice is allowed, yes it is. Is it ethical, that I believe is a "no".
answered Oct 16 at 19:19
CrosbonaughtCrosbonaught
8121 silver badge17 bronze badges
add a comment
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First, I find this practice incredibly distasteful and unprofessional.
All job applications should be submitted in confidence. As a hiring manager, you (we) don't know if the candidate is leaving a job quietly, or not. And by contacting "backdoor references" or "non-listed references" you could jeopardize their situation even more. This puts the candidate in an unfair position, especially should they (worst case) get terminated from their current position for looking for work.
Now, if you found the references unacceptable or unsuitable, as a hiring manager it is your prerogative and reasonable to ask for more - or why a person/position was not utilized. However, this too, often puts a candidate in a less than ideal position. As this conversation can lead them to "bad mouth" their current employer inadvertently (or what they say can be perceived as such) - which is also an interview "no-no". If you must ask "why" do so, expecting a response which may be less than apolitical about their current employer, and take into account your question with their response - in terms, of tone, reasoning and adequacy. This way you are not penalizing them and negatively affecting their application for a difficult and (depending on your wording) distasteful question.
As far as your question if this practice is allowed, yes it is. Is it ethical, that I believe is a "no".
answered Oct 16 at 19:19
CrosbonaughtCrosbonaught
8121 silver badge17 bronze badges
First, I find this practice incredibly distasteful and unprofessional.
All job applications should be submitted in confidence. As a hiring manager, you (we) don't know if the candidate is leaving a job quietly, or not. And by contacting "backdoor references" or "non-listed references" you could jeopardize their situation even more. This puts the candidate in an unfair position, especially should they (worst case) get terminated from their current position for looking for work.
Now, if you found the references unacceptable or unsuitable, as a hiring manager it is your prerogative and reasonable to ask for more - or why a person/position was not utilized. However, this too, often puts a candidate in a less than ideal position. As this conversation can lead them to "bad mouth" their current employer inadvertently (or what they say can be perceived as such) - which is also an interview "no-no". If you must ask "why" do so, expecting a response which may be less than apolitical about their current employer, and take into account your question with their response - in terms, of tone, reasoning and adequacy. This way you are not penalizing them and negatively affecting their application for a difficult and (depending on your wording) distasteful question.
As far as your question if this practice is allowed, yes it is. Is it ethical, that I believe is a "no".
answered Oct 16 at 19:19
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Is contacting references like in this situation allowed and/or ethical?
Unless a candidate has explicitly indicated that they did not want certain organizations/individuals contacted then this is OK. Considering that they are using publicly available information to contact these people ( i.e. social media ) there is nothing unethical about this practice.
With regards to lack of transparency, I think it is understood that any good business will perform their due diligence in determining whether a candidate is the best choice for their company.
answered Oct 16 at 17:32
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Is contacting references like in this situation allowed and/or ethical?
Unless a candidate has explicitly indicated that they did not want certain organizations/individuals contacted then this is OK. Considering that they are using publicly available information to contact these people ( i.e. social media ) there is nothing unethical about this practice.
With regards to lack of transparency, I think it is understood that any good business will perform their due diligence in determining whether a candidate is the best choice for their company.
answered Oct 16 at 17:32
sf02sf02
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Is contacting references like in this situation allowed and/or ethical?
Unless a candidate has explicitly indicated that they did not want certain organizations/individuals contacted then this is OK. Considering that they are using publicly available information to contact these people ( i.e. social media ) there is nothing unethical about this practice.
With regards to lack of transparency, I think it is understood that any good business will perform their due diligence in determining whether a candidate is the best choice for their company.
answered Oct 16 at 17:32
sf02sf02
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Is contacting references like in this situation allowed and/or ethical?
Unless a candidate has explicitly indicated that they did not want certain organizations/individuals contacted then this is OK. Considering that they are using publicly available information to contact these people ( i.e. social media ) there is nothing unethical about this practice.
With regards to lack of transparency, I think it is understood that any good business will perform their due diligence in determining whether a candidate is the best choice for their company.
answered Oct 16 at 17:32
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answered Oct 16 at 17:32
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answered Oct 16 at 17:32
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Is contacting references like this situation allowed and/or ethical?
Yes, it's allowed. IMHO, it's perfectly ethical to talk to anyone who might know about your abilities before offering you a job,, other than someone at your current employer.
My boss used to call this "back door references" and it was routine.
I'd hope my LinkedIn/social media contacts had positive things to say
about me, but I'd be offended if I knew the company did this while I
was interviewing.
I have no idea why this would offend you, but you can always decline any offer from a company that did this if you found out.
And presumably the contact would give you notification about it.
answered Oct 16 at 17:00
Joe StrazzereJoe Strazzere
280k147 gold badges841 silver badges1155 bronze badges
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The fact that a candidate applied should be(is) confidential. Any employer that would disclose it, without asking would be a deal-breaker to me.
– Jeffrey supports Monica
Oct 16 at 17:13
12
Offended? No. Extremely upset? Definitely. Leaking your application to a 3rd party might have repercussions, it might be acceptable only after the candidate received and accepted an offer.
– Adriano Repetti
Oct 16 at 17:20
Thanks for the reply!
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
3
Declining an offer doesn't really make up for things if you got fired as a result of this.
– Kathy
Oct 16 at 21:37
1
+1. This is a called a "background check." Like it or not, it's a smart move for a hiring company. But doing it effectively in a way that doesn't mess with either the hiring company's reputation or the candidate's reputation takes a lot of skill and finesse. Hiring managers: don't do this naively or you could make a big mess.
– O. Jones
Oct 17 at 15:08
|
show 2 more comments
Is contacting references like this situation allowed and/or ethical?
Yes, it's allowed. IMHO, it's perfectly ethical to talk to anyone who might know about your abilities before offering you a job,, other than someone at your current employer.
My boss used to call this "back door references" and it was routine.
I'd hope my LinkedIn/social media contacts had positive things to say
about me, but I'd be offended if I knew the company did this while I
was interviewing.
I have no idea why this would offend you, but you can always decline any offer from a company that did this if you found out.
And presumably the contact would give you notification about it.
answered Oct 16 at 17:00
Joe StrazzereJoe Strazzere
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The fact that a candidate applied should be(is) confidential. Any employer that would disclose it, without asking would be a deal-breaker to me.
– Jeffrey supports Monica
Oct 16 at 17:13
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Offended? No. Extremely upset? Definitely. Leaking your application to a 3rd party might have repercussions, it might be acceptable only after the candidate received and accepted an offer.
– Adriano Repetti
Oct 16 at 17:20
Thanks for the reply!
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
3
Declining an offer doesn't really make up for things if you got fired as a result of this.
– Kathy
Oct 16 at 21:37
1
+1. This is a called a "background check." Like it or not, it's a smart move for a hiring company. But doing it effectively in a way that doesn't mess with either the hiring company's reputation or the candidate's reputation takes a lot of skill and finesse. Hiring managers: don't do this naively or you could make a big mess.
– O. Jones
Oct 17 at 15:08
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Is contacting references like this situation allowed and/or ethical?
Yes, it's allowed. IMHO, it's perfectly ethical to talk to anyone who might know about your abilities before offering you a job,, other than someone at your current employer.
My boss used to call this "back door references" and it was routine.
I'd hope my LinkedIn/social media contacts had positive things to say
about me, but I'd be offended if I knew the company did this while I
was interviewing.
I have no idea why this would offend you, but you can always decline any offer from a company that did this if you found out.
And presumably the contact would give you notification about it.
answered Oct 16 at 17:00
Joe StrazzereJoe Strazzere
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Is contacting references like this situation allowed and/or ethical?
Yes, it's allowed. IMHO, it's perfectly ethical to talk to anyone who might know about your abilities before offering you a job,, other than someone at your current employer.
My boss used to call this "back door references" and it was routine.
I'd hope my LinkedIn/social media contacts had positive things to say
about me, but I'd be offended if I knew the company did this while I
was interviewing.
I have no idea why this would offend you, but you can always decline any offer from a company that did this if you found out.
And presumably the contact would give you notification about it.
answered Oct 16 at 17:00
Joe StrazzereJoe Strazzere
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edited Oct 16 at 19:44
answered Oct 16 at 17:00
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answered Oct 16 at 17:00
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The fact that a candidate applied should be(is) confidential. Any employer that would disclose it, without asking would be a deal-breaker to me.
– Jeffrey supports Monica
Oct 16 at 17:13
12
Offended? No. Extremely upset? Definitely. Leaking your application to a 3rd party might have repercussions, it might be acceptable only after the candidate received and accepted an offer.
– Adriano Repetti
Oct 16 at 17:20
Thanks for the reply!
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
3
Declining an offer doesn't really make up for things if you got fired as a result of this.
– Kathy
Oct 16 at 21:37
1
+1. This is a called a "background check." Like it or not, it's a smart move for a hiring company. But doing it effectively in a way that doesn't mess with either the hiring company's reputation or the candidate's reputation takes a lot of skill and finesse. Hiring managers: don't do this naively or you could make a big mess.
– O. Jones
Oct 17 at 15:08
|
show 2 more comments
9
The fact that a candidate applied should be(is) confidential. Any employer that would disclose it, without asking would be a deal-breaker to me.
– Jeffrey supports Monica
Oct 16 at 17:13
12
Offended? No. Extremely upset? Definitely. Leaking your application to a 3rd party might have repercussions, it might be acceptable only after the candidate received and accepted an offer.
– Adriano Repetti
Oct 16 at 17:20
Thanks for the reply!
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
3
Declining an offer doesn't really make up for things if you got fired as a result of this.
– Kathy
Oct 16 at 21:37
1
+1. This is a called a "background check." Like it or not, it's a smart move for a hiring company. But doing it effectively in a way that doesn't mess with either the hiring company's reputation or the candidate's reputation takes a lot of skill and finesse. Hiring managers: don't do this naively or you could make a big mess.
– O. Jones
Oct 17 at 15:08
9
9
The fact that a candidate applied should be(is) confidential. Any employer that would disclose it, without asking would be a deal-breaker to me.
– Jeffrey supports Monica
Oct 16 at 17:13
The fact that a candidate applied should be(is) confidential. Any employer that would disclose it, without asking would be a deal-breaker to me.
– Jeffrey supports Monica
Oct 16 at 17:13
12
12
Offended? No. Extremely upset? Definitely. Leaking your application to a 3rd party might have repercussions, it might be acceptable only after the candidate received and accepted an offer.
– Adriano Repetti
Oct 16 at 17:20
Offended? No. Extremely upset? Definitely. Leaking your application to a 3rd party might have repercussions, it might be acceptable only after the candidate received and accepted an offer.
– Adriano Repetti
Oct 16 at 17:20
Thanks for the reply!
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
Thanks for the reply!
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
3
3
Declining an offer doesn't really make up for things if you got fired as a result of this.
– Kathy
Oct 16 at 21:37
Declining an offer doesn't really make up for things if you got fired as a result of this.
– Kathy
Oct 16 at 21:37
1
1
+1. This is a called a "background check." Like it or not, it's a smart move for a hiring company. But doing it effectively in a way that doesn't mess with either the hiring company's reputation or the candidate's reputation takes a lot of skill and finesse. Hiring managers: don't do this naively or you could make a big mess.
– O. Jones
Oct 17 at 15:08
+1. This is a called a "background check." Like it or not, it's a smart move for a hiring company. But doing it effectively in a way that doesn't mess with either the hiring company's reputation or the candidate's reputation takes a lot of skill and finesse. Hiring managers: don't do this naively or you could make a big mess.
– O. Jones
Oct 17 at 15:08
|
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Can you list your location? I'm wondering if this may differ from place to place.
– dwizum
Oct 16 at 17:00
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Located in US. Would be offended because of the lack of transparency and if the non-listed contact could jeopardize relations at a current job.
– Th3F001
Oct 16 at 17:23
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@JoeStrazzere what if the linkedin contact is current boss / coworker? Or friend of current boss / coworker?
– DaveG
Oct 16 at 18:18
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@JoeStrazzere, I wouldn't be offended. I would be angry - as if my current employer were to be contacted regarding my job search I can guarantee I would be terminated (they have fired people for asking to use management for a reference) and gaslit people looking for work.
– Crosbonaught
Oct 16 at 19:10
That is what happened to me. Lucky thing, the person they contacted didn't work at my previous employer anymore. They just forgot to update their profile.
– Max A.
Oct 17 at 2:51