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Why do you need to heat the pan before heating the olive oil?
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In the Netflix documentary Salt Fat Acid Heat, Samin Nosrat says this when she is making sofrito and she is about to put olive oil into the pan:
This is one of those important things that I think home cooks always
forget, is how important it is to pre-heat the pan. You have to heat
the pan before you heat the oil.
Why do you need to heat the pan before putting the oil in?
olive-oil
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In the Netflix documentary Salt Fat Acid Heat, Samin Nosrat says this when she is making sofrito and she is about to put olive oil into the pan:
This is one of those important things that I think home cooks always
forget, is how important it is to pre-heat the pan. You have to heat
the pan before you heat the oil.
Why do you need to heat the pan before putting the oil in?
olive-oil
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This is, as far as I know, a myth. When I find backing for it, I'll post an answer.
– FuzzyChef
9 hours ago
The only logic I can come up with is to start heating the pan before adding the oil, because the it all takes longer to warm up than you think and that gains you a few moments of heating.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
I've heard two reasons for it, but I don't know if either one's actually true -- 1. it reduces the chance of food sticking (which is true for preheating the pan, but I don't know about waiting to add the oil); 2. it lets the pan expand and close any micro-fissures that it may have, preventing the oil from seeping in and making it harder to clean. But of course, this doesn't apply to teflon pans -- always heat those up with oil or water in them, never dry.
– Joe
8 hours ago
Joe: both of those are unfounded myths, see my answer below.
– FuzzyChef
8 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Do you heat the pan first, then add oil? Or put the oil in and heat up with the pan?
– moscafj
7 hours ago
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In the Netflix documentary Salt Fat Acid Heat, Samin Nosrat says this when she is making sofrito and she is about to put olive oil into the pan:
This is one of those important things that I think home cooks always
forget, is how important it is to pre-heat the pan. You have to heat
the pan before you heat the oil.
Why do you need to heat the pan before putting the oil in?
olive-oil
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In the Netflix documentary Salt Fat Acid Heat, Samin Nosrat says this when she is making sofrito and she is about to put olive oil into the pan:
This is one of those important things that I think home cooks always
forget, is how important it is to pre-heat the pan. You have to heat
the pan before you heat the oil.
Why do you need to heat the pan before putting the oil in?
olive-oil
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This is, as far as I know, a myth. When I find backing for it, I'll post an answer.
– FuzzyChef
9 hours ago
The only logic I can come up with is to start heating the pan before adding the oil, because the it all takes longer to warm up than you think and that gains you a few moments of heating.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
I've heard two reasons for it, but I don't know if either one's actually true -- 1. it reduces the chance of food sticking (which is true for preheating the pan, but I don't know about waiting to add the oil); 2. it lets the pan expand and close any micro-fissures that it may have, preventing the oil from seeping in and making it harder to clean. But of course, this doesn't apply to teflon pans -- always heat those up with oil or water in them, never dry.
– Joe
8 hours ago
Joe: both of those are unfounded myths, see my answer below.
– FuzzyChef
8 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Do you heat the pan first, then add oil? Or put the oil in and heat up with the pan?
– moscafj
7 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
2
This is, as far as I know, a myth. When I find backing for it, I'll post an answer.
– FuzzyChef
9 hours ago
The only logic I can come up with is to start heating the pan before adding the oil, because the it all takes longer to warm up than you think and that gains you a few moments of heating.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
I've heard two reasons for it, but I don't know if either one's actually true -- 1. it reduces the chance of food sticking (which is true for preheating the pan, but I don't know about waiting to add the oil); 2. it lets the pan expand and close any micro-fissures that it may have, preventing the oil from seeping in and making it harder to clean. But of course, this doesn't apply to teflon pans -- always heat those up with oil or water in them, never dry.
– Joe
8 hours ago
Joe: both of those are unfounded myths, see my answer below.
– FuzzyChef
8 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Do you heat the pan first, then add oil? Or put the oil in and heat up with the pan?
– moscafj
7 hours ago
2
2
This is, as far as I know, a myth. When I find backing for it, I'll post an answer.
– FuzzyChef
9 hours ago
This is, as far as I know, a myth. When I find backing for it, I'll post an answer.
– FuzzyChef
9 hours ago
The only logic I can come up with is to start heating the pan before adding the oil, because the it all takes longer to warm up than you think and that gains you a few moments of heating.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
The only logic I can come up with is to start heating the pan before adding the oil, because the it all takes longer to warm up than you think and that gains you a few moments of heating.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
I've heard two reasons for it, but I don't know if either one's actually true -- 1. it reduces the chance of food sticking (which is true for preheating the pan, but I don't know about waiting to add the oil); 2. it lets the pan expand and close any micro-fissures that it may have, preventing the oil from seeping in and making it harder to clean. But of course, this doesn't apply to teflon pans -- always heat those up with oil or water in them, never dry.
– Joe
8 hours ago
I've heard two reasons for it, but I don't know if either one's actually true -- 1. it reduces the chance of food sticking (which is true for preheating the pan, but I don't know about waiting to add the oil); 2. it lets the pan expand and close any micro-fissures that it may have, preventing the oil from seeping in and making it harder to clean. But of course, this doesn't apply to teflon pans -- always heat those up with oil or water in them, never dry.
– Joe
8 hours ago
Joe: both of those are unfounded myths, see my answer below.
– FuzzyChef
8 hours ago
Joe: both of those are unfounded myths, see my answer below.
– FuzzyChef
8 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Do you heat the pan first, then add oil? Or put the oil in and heat up with the pan?
– moscafj
7 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Do you heat the pan first, then add oil? Or put the oil in and heat up with the pan?
– moscafj
7 hours ago
|
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TL;DR: heating the pan before the oil has no useful effects in most cases.
While this is a duplicate of another question, I'm going to answer it again because that question's accepted answer provides zero evidence or citations to back itself up. Which is important, because the accepted answer is wrong.
The popular myth is "Cold oil in hot pan and food won't stick". Like most such cooking myths, this one is nonsense; as Kitchen Myths points out:
What you really want is “hot pan, hot oil” and that’s what you are actually getting because the cold oil heats up almost instantly when added to the hot pan. You’ll get the same results if you heat the oil along with the pan rather than adding the oil at the last minute. In fact some cooks prefer this technique because the appearance of the oil in the pan can give you some indication of when the pan has reached the proper temperature.
Serious Eats says the same thing:
The thing is, only raw proteins will form this bond. Heat causes proteins to fold in on themselves, or even to break down and form all new compounds. Once in their folded or rearranged form, they no longer stick. So the goal is to get the meat to cook before it even comes into contact with the metal by heating oil hot enough that it can cook the meat in the time it takes for it to pass from the air, through the film of oil, and into the pan.
So, you want a hot pan with hot oil. Most of the time, this means that you want to preheat the oil with the pan, not add oil to a preheated pan, although the latter doesn't do any harm. It just doesn't provide any benefit.
You'll notice I said most of the time, though. There are times when you do want to preheat the cooking vessel before adding fat, and both of those times have to do with needing to heat the metal hotter than the smoke point of the oil you are using.
- If you are cooking with a wok, getting proper "wok hei" (searing) requires heating the wok above the smoke point of vegetable oil, dry, a technique called "long yao" (video, skip to 3:22). Classic cast-iron steak cooking uses a similar technique, heating the pan to 250C/500F before adding the oil or meat.
- When cooking with butter as your fat (or a few other low-temperature oils like unrefined coconut oil), the burning point of the fat is sometimes a lower temperature than you want to cook at. If so, the only way to get the pan hot enough is to preheat at dry plan, add the butter or fat, and then quickly add the food before the butter burns.
Neither of these cases has anything to do with preventing sticking, though. They are both about not burning the cooking fat. And the first technique only makes sense if you are using cast iron or carbon steel; it can damage other types of cookware.
You might ask: doesn't this apply to cooking sofrito, though? And the answer is no. Filtered olive oil has a smoke point of 210C, which is plenty hot enough for the very wet ingredients in a sofrito, which will drag the real pan temperature down to 105C or so in a few seconds anyway. Further, a sofrito is made up entirely of non-starchy vegetables and aromatics, which means that sticking isn't a serious concern.
So, myth busted!
2
The only other reason that I can think of is if the pan is wet. Water in oil would cause the oil to splatter. Heating the pan first would dry it.
– MaxW
3 hours ago
True. That's a pretty specialized reason, though, and a towel would work as well.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
There's also another version of this myth, with cast iron but occasionally with other metal types: that it "opens the pores" of the metal to let it absorb oil, or that it "closes the microfissures in the metal". Neither one of these versions of the myth has a shred of scientific evidence to back it up.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
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TL;DR: heating the pan before the oil has no useful effects in most cases.
While this is a duplicate of another question, I'm going to answer it again because that question's accepted answer provides zero evidence or citations to back itself up. Which is important, because the accepted answer is wrong.
The popular myth is "Cold oil in hot pan and food won't stick". Like most such cooking myths, this one is nonsense; as Kitchen Myths points out:
What you really want is “hot pan, hot oil” and that’s what you are actually getting because the cold oil heats up almost instantly when added to the hot pan. You’ll get the same results if you heat the oil along with the pan rather than adding the oil at the last minute. In fact some cooks prefer this technique because the appearance of the oil in the pan can give you some indication of when the pan has reached the proper temperature.
Serious Eats says the same thing:
The thing is, only raw proteins will form this bond. Heat causes proteins to fold in on themselves, or even to break down and form all new compounds. Once in their folded or rearranged form, they no longer stick. So the goal is to get the meat to cook before it even comes into contact with the metal by heating oil hot enough that it can cook the meat in the time it takes for it to pass from the air, through the film of oil, and into the pan.
So, you want a hot pan with hot oil. Most of the time, this means that you want to preheat the oil with the pan, not add oil to a preheated pan, although the latter doesn't do any harm. It just doesn't provide any benefit.
You'll notice I said most of the time, though. There are times when you do want to preheat the cooking vessel before adding fat, and both of those times have to do with needing to heat the metal hotter than the smoke point of the oil you are using.
- If you are cooking with a wok, getting proper "wok hei" (searing) requires heating the wok above the smoke point of vegetable oil, dry, a technique called "long yao" (video, skip to 3:22). Classic cast-iron steak cooking uses a similar technique, heating the pan to 250C/500F before adding the oil or meat.
- When cooking with butter as your fat (or a few other low-temperature oils like unrefined coconut oil), the burning point of the fat is sometimes a lower temperature than you want to cook at. If so, the only way to get the pan hot enough is to preheat at dry plan, add the butter or fat, and then quickly add the food before the butter burns.
Neither of these cases has anything to do with preventing sticking, though. They are both about not burning the cooking fat. And the first technique only makes sense if you are using cast iron or carbon steel; it can damage other types of cookware.
You might ask: doesn't this apply to cooking sofrito, though? And the answer is no. Filtered olive oil has a smoke point of 210C, which is plenty hot enough for the very wet ingredients in a sofrito, which will drag the real pan temperature down to 105C or so in a few seconds anyway. Further, a sofrito is made up entirely of non-starchy vegetables and aromatics, which means that sticking isn't a serious concern.
So, myth busted!
2
The only other reason that I can think of is if the pan is wet. Water in oil would cause the oil to splatter. Heating the pan first would dry it.
– MaxW
3 hours ago
True. That's a pretty specialized reason, though, and a towel would work as well.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
There's also another version of this myth, with cast iron but occasionally with other metal types: that it "opens the pores" of the metal to let it absorb oil, or that it "closes the microfissures in the metal". Neither one of these versions of the myth has a shred of scientific evidence to back it up.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
add a comment |
TL;DR: heating the pan before the oil has no useful effects in most cases.
While this is a duplicate of another question, I'm going to answer it again because that question's accepted answer provides zero evidence or citations to back itself up. Which is important, because the accepted answer is wrong.
The popular myth is "Cold oil in hot pan and food won't stick". Like most such cooking myths, this one is nonsense; as Kitchen Myths points out:
What you really want is “hot pan, hot oil” and that’s what you are actually getting because the cold oil heats up almost instantly when added to the hot pan. You’ll get the same results if you heat the oil along with the pan rather than adding the oil at the last minute. In fact some cooks prefer this technique because the appearance of the oil in the pan can give you some indication of when the pan has reached the proper temperature.
Serious Eats says the same thing:
The thing is, only raw proteins will form this bond. Heat causes proteins to fold in on themselves, or even to break down and form all new compounds. Once in their folded or rearranged form, they no longer stick. So the goal is to get the meat to cook before it even comes into contact with the metal by heating oil hot enough that it can cook the meat in the time it takes for it to pass from the air, through the film of oil, and into the pan.
So, you want a hot pan with hot oil. Most of the time, this means that you want to preheat the oil with the pan, not add oil to a preheated pan, although the latter doesn't do any harm. It just doesn't provide any benefit.
You'll notice I said most of the time, though. There are times when you do want to preheat the cooking vessel before adding fat, and both of those times have to do with needing to heat the metal hotter than the smoke point of the oil you are using.
- If you are cooking with a wok, getting proper "wok hei" (searing) requires heating the wok above the smoke point of vegetable oil, dry, a technique called "long yao" (video, skip to 3:22). Classic cast-iron steak cooking uses a similar technique, heating the pan to 250C/500F before adding the oil or meat.
- When cooking with butter as your fat (or a few other low-temperature oils like unrefined coconut oil), the burning point of the fat is sometimes a lower temperature than you want to cook at. If so, the only way to get the pan hot enough is to preheat at dry plan, add the butter or fat, and then quickly add the food before the butter burns.
Neither of these cases has anything to do with preventing sticking, though. They are both about not burning the cooking fat. And the first technique only makes sense if you are using cast iron or carbon steel; it can damage other types of cookware.
You might ask: doesn't this apply to cooking sofrito, though? And the answer is no. Filtered olive oil has a smoke point of 210C, which is plenty hot enough for the very wet ingredients in a sofrito, which will drag the real pan temperature down to 105C or so in a few seconds anyway. Further, a sofrito is made up entirely of non-starchy vegetables and aromatics, which means that sticking isn't a serious concern.
So, myth busted!
2
The only other reason that I can think of is if the pan is wet. Water in oil would cause the oil to splatter. Heating the pan first would dry it.
– MaxW
3 hours ago
True. That's a pretty specialized reason, though, and a towel would work as well.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
There's also another version of this myth, with cast iron but occasionally with other metal types: that it "opens the pores" of the metal to let it absorb oil, or that it "closes the microfissures in the metal". Neither one of these versions of the myth has a shred of scientific evidence to back it up.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
add a comment |
TL;DR: heating the pan before the oil has no useful effects in most cases.
While this is a duplicate of another question, I'm going to answer it again because that question's accepted answer provides zero evidence or citations to back itself up. Which is important, because the accepted answer is wrong.
The popular myth is "Cold oil in hot pan and food won't stick". Like most such cooking myths, this one is nonsense; as Kitchen Myths points out:
What you really want is “hot pan, hot oil” and that’s what you are actually getting because the cold oil heats up almost instantly when added to the hot pan. You’ll get the same results if you heat the oil along with the pan rather than adding the oil at the last minute. In fact some cooks prefer this technique because the appearance of the oil in the pan can give you some indication of when the pan has reached the proper temperature.
Serious Eats says the same thing:
The thing is, only raw proteins will form this bond. Heat causes proteins to fold in on themselves, or even to break down and form all new compounds. Once in their folded or rearranged form, they no longer stick. So the goal is to get the meat to cook before it even comes into contact with the metal by heating oil hot enough that it can cook the meat in the time it takes for it to pass from the air, through the film of oil, and into the pan.
So, you want a hot pan with hot oil. Most of the time, this means that you want to preheat the oil with the pan, not add oil to a preheated pan, although the latter doesn't do any harm. It just doesn't provide any benefit.
You'll notice I said most of the time, though. There are times when you do want to preheat the cooking vessel before adding fat, and both of those times have to do with needing to heat the metal hotter than the smoke point of the oil you are using.
- If you are cooking with a wok, getting proper "wok hei" (searing) requires heating the wok above the smoke point of vegetable oil, dry, a technique called "long yao" (video, skip to 3:22). Classic cast-iron steak cooking uses a similar technique, heating the pan to 250C/500F before adding the oil or meat.
- When cooking with butter as your fat (or a few other low-temperature oils like unrefined coconut oil), the burning point of the fat is sometimes a lower temperature than you want to cook at. If so, the only way to get the pan hot enough is to preheat at dry plan, add the butter or fat, and then quickly add the food before the butter burns.
Neither of these cases has anything to do with preventing sticking, though. They are both about not burning the cooking fat. And the first technique only makes sense if you are using cast iron or carbon steel; it can damage other types of cookware.
You might ask: doesn't this apply to cooking sofrito, though? And the answer is no. Filtered olive oil has a smoke point of 210C, which is plenty hot enough for the very wet ingredients in a sofrito, which will drag the real pan temperature down to 105C or so in a few seconds anyway. Further, a sofrito is made up entirely of non-starchy vegetables and aromatics, which means that sticking isn't a serious concern.
So, myth busted!
TL;DR: heating the pan before the oil has no useful effects in most cases.
While this is a duplicate of another question, I'm going to answer it again because that question's accepted answer provides zero evidence or citations to back itself up. Which is important, because the accepted answer is wrong.
The popular myth is "Cold oil in hot pan and food won't stick". Like most such cooking myths, this one is nonsense; as Kitchen Myths points out:
What you really want is “hot pan, hot oil” and that’s what you are actually getting because the cold oil heats up almost instantly when added to the hot pan. You’ll get the same results if you heat the oil along with the pan rather than adding the oil at the last minute. In fact some cooks prefer this technique because the appearance of the oil in the pan can give you some indication of when the pan has reached the proper temperature.
Serious Eats says the same thing:
The thing is, only raw proteins will form this bond. Heat causes proteins to fold in on themselves, or even to break down and form all new compounds. Once in their folded or rearranged form, they no longer stick. So the goal is to get the meat to cook before it even comes into contact with the metal by heating oil hot enough that it can cook the meat in the time it takes for it to pass from the air, through the film of oil, and into the pan.
So, you want a hot pan with hot oil. Most of the time, this means that you want to preheat the oil with the pan, not add oil to a preheated pan, although the latter doesn't do any harm. It just doesn't provide any benefit.
You'll notice I said most of the time, though. There are times when you do want to preheat the cooking vessel before adding fat, and both of those times have to do with needing to heat the metal hotter than the smoke point of the oil you are using.
- If you are cooking with a wok, getting proper "wok hei" (searing) requires heating the wok above the smoke point of vegetable oil, dry, a technique called "long yao" (video, skip to 3:22). Classic cast-iron steak cooking uses a similar technique, heating the pan to 250C/500F before adding the oil or meat.
- When cooking with butter as your fat (or a few other low-temperature oils like unrefined coconut oil), the burning point of the fat is sometimes a lower temperature than you want to cook at. If so, the only way to get the pan hot enough is to preheat at dry plan, add the butter or fat, and then quickly add the food before the butter burns.
Neither of these cases has anything to do with preventing sticking, though. They are both about not burning the cooking fat. And the first technique only makes sense if you are using cast iron or carbon steel; it can damage other types of cookware.
You might ask: doesn't this apply to cooking sofrito, though? And the answer is no. Filtered olive oil has a smoke point of 210C, which is plenty hot enough for the very wet ingredients in a sofrito, which will drag the real pan temperature down to 105C or so in a few seconds anyway. Further, a sofrito is made up entirely of non-starchy vegetables and aromatics, which means that sticking isn't a serious concern.
So, myth busted!
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The only other reason that I can think of is if the pan is wet. Water in oil would cause the oil to splatter. Heating the pan first would dry it.
– MaxW
3 hours ago
True. That's a pretty specialized reason, though, and a towel would work as well.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
There's also another version of this myth, with cast iron but occasionally with other metal types: that it "opens the pores" of the metal to let it absorb oil, or that it "closes the microfissures in the metal". Neither one of these versions of the myth has a shred of scientific evidence to back it up.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
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2
The only other reason that I can think of is if the pan is wet. Water in oil would cause the oil to splatter. Heating the pan first would dry it.
– MaxW
3 hours ago
True. That's a pretty specialized reason, though, and a towel would work as well.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
There's also another version of this myth, with cast iron but occasionally with other metal types: that it "opens the pores" of the metal to let it absorb oil, or that it "closes the microfissures in the metal". Neither one of these versions of the myth has a shred of scientific evidence to back it up.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
2
2
The only other reason that I can think of is if the pan is wet. Water in oil would cause the oil to splatter. Heating the pan first would dry it.
– MaxW
3 hours ago
The only other reason that I can think of is if the pan is wet. Water in oil would cause the oil to splatter. Heating the pan first would dry it.
– MaxW
3 hours ago
True. That's a pretty specialized reason, though, and a towel would work as well.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
True. That's a pretty specialized reason, though, and a towel would work as well.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
There's also another version of this myth, with cast iron but occasionally with other metal types: that it "opens the pores" of the metal to let it absorb oil, or that it "closes the microfissures in the metal". Neither one of these versions of the myth has a shred of scientific evidence to back it up.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
There's also another version of this myth, with cast iron but occasionally with other metal types: that it "opens the pores" of the metal to let it absorb oil, or that it "closes the microfissures in the metal". Neither one of these versions of the myth has a shred of scientific evidence to back it up.
– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago
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This is, as far as I know, a myth. When I find backing for it, I'll post an answer.
– FuzzyChef
9 hours ago
The only logic I can come up with is to start heating the pan before adding the oil, because the it all takes longer to warm up than you think and that gains you a few moments of heating.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
I've heard two reasons for it, but I don't know if either one's actually true -- 1. it reduces the chance of food sticking (which is true for preheating the pan, but I don't know about waiting to add the oil); 2. it lets the pan expand and close any micro-fissures that it may have, preventing the oil from seeping in and making it harder to clean. But of course, this doesn't apply to teflon pans -- always heat those up with oil or water in them, never dry.
– Joe
8 hours ago
Joe: both of those are unfounded myths, see my answer below.
– FuzzyChef
8 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Do you heat the pan first, then add oil? Or put the oil in and heat up with the pan?
– moscafj
7 hours ago