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What could be reasoning of male prison in VR world to only allow undershirt and sarong as nightwear to male prisoners
How would I limit the amount of magical bling a person could wear?How to Survive a Tough Prison as a Weakling?Why do only clothes stay in an animal transformation?Why do governments not permanently restrain super villains?How can the American government legalize a program that implants microchips into convicts in order to curb prison violence and future crimes?How can an organization keep prisoners secured who can escape by death and resurrection?Is there a material that can harden when blunt force is applied, but also be lightweight?How to move a prisoner to closed jail, so no one would object or ask questions?Keeping a Hero Prisoner in Parallel?How could a goverment sell prisoners as slaves (without giving advantage to richs)?
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I want to allow one of the prisons in VR to allow only sarong and undershirts as nightwear. What reasons could one provide?
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Prisons can have very restrictive rules which sometimes defy common sense.
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If it's in VR, why would it matter what kind of clothing they provide? It could just a default setting in VRPrison.exe.
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I say @Alexander nailed it.
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One reasoning could be :. It's a poor country prison like Bangladesh. And of mix including both young men and older. So everyone should hv some night dress code to avoid discrimination. Of course it would be most difficult for young men to sleep in lungi as most of them might be used to pajamas.
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I assumed that VR means virtual reality. Was this mistaken?
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I want to allow one of the prisons in VR to allow only sarong and undershirts as nightwear. What reasons could one provide?
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Prisons can have very restrictive rules which sometimes defy common sense.
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If it's in VR, why would it matter what kind of clothing they provide? It could just a default setting in VRPrison.exe.
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One reasoning could be :. It's a poor country prison like Bangladesh. And of mix including both young men and older. So everyone should hv some night dress code to avoid discrimination. Of course it would be most difficult for young men to sleep in lungi as most of them might be used to pajamas.
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I assumed that VR means virtual reality. Was this mistaken?
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Prisons can have very restrictive rules which sometimes defy common sense.
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If it's in VR, why would it matter what kind of clothing they provide? It could just a default setting in VRPrison.exe.
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– Morris The Cat
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I say @Alexander nailed it.
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One reasoning could be :. It's a poor country prison like Bangladesh. And of mix including both young men and older. So everyone should hv some night dress code to avoid discrimination. Of course it would be most difficult for young men to sleep in lungi as most of them might be used to pajamas.
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I assumed that VR means virtual reality. Was this mistaken?
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Prisons can have very restrictive rules which sometimes defy common sense.
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– Alexander
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Prisons can have very restrictive rules which sometimes defy common sense.
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If it's in VR, why would it matter what kind of clothing they provide? It could just a default setting in VRPrison.exe.
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– Morris The Cat
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If it's in VR, why would it matter what kind of clothing they provide? It could just a default setting in VRPrison.exe.
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– Morris The Cat
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I say @Alexander nailed it.
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– Carl Witthoft
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I say @Alexander nailed it.
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One reasoning could be :. It's a poor country prison like Bangladesh. And of mix including both young men and older. So everyone should hv some night dress code to avoid discrimination. Of course it would be most difficult for young men to sleep in lungi as most of them might be used to pajamas.
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One reasoning could be :. It's a poor country prison like Bangladesh. And of mix including both young men and older. So everyone should hv some night dress code to avoid discrimination. Of course it would be most difficult for young men to sleep in lungi as most of them might be used to pajamas.
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I assumed that VR means virtual reality. Was this mistaken?
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The same and only reason prisons ever have for placing restrictions on anyone or anything: because they're totalitarian institutes that literally exist to make life miserable for the inmates. Having tried to sleep in a sarong on a couple of occasions I can attest that this certainly would make a lot of people miserable.
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Lungi or Indian sarong has ends stitched together. So it's more like a tube rather than an open sheet. And that along with a vest is ideal nightwear for old generation Indian men
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@Sikhandyeshallfind Yeah I've never tried to sleep in one of those, that might be easier to deal with than the sheet wrap sarong, those are a nightmare. If a prison was going to use a sarong it'd have to be the sheet.
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Then again, some folks find the sarong (and its various worldwide relatives) to be quite comfy indeed!
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According to modern theories, prison sentences (and other punishments by the criminal justice system) serve multiple functions:
- The prisoner is prevented from crimes against the general public while imprisoned. He or she can only offend against other prisoners or prison staff.
- Under coercion, the prisoner is taught lessons for a crime-free life which he or she might have avoided in freedom -- drug therapy, school and vocational training, living a structured life.
- The prisoner is deterred from repeat crimes when he or she experiences the consequences of being caught.
- Members of the public other than the sentenced criminal are deterred from crime when they see the consequences of being caught.
- Victims and members of the general public feel satisfaction at witnessing punishment, and their moral standards are reinforced.
Nations differ in the emphasis on different functions of prison sentences. Some hardly try to rehabilitate the prisoner. Others see this as the key role of the criminal justice system. Some make conditions as harsh as possible to reinforce the deterrence effect, others do so as punishment.
I assume that the clothing is no ordinary nightgown for males in the culture your describe. If that were the case, the prison system might simply give everyone the standard and leave it at that. And since you talk about a VR prison, presumably there are no cost reasons to select this kind of clothing and not another one-size-fits-all.
- It could be deliberate humiliation to enhance the deterrence function.
- It could be deliberate humiliation to enhance the punishment.
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In a VR world... you could make them dress up like the little mermaid and it would not matter. VR aesthetics as are just that, and there is no practical purpose to how you skin your inmates other than making them look how you want them to look. They can't conceal knife better because they are wearing loose clothes, they can't be slowed down just because you render them with a ball and chain. Etc.
In the real world; however, there are some distinct advantages to this attire:
Ever heard the term "gird your loins"? In the ancient world, where men routinely wore sarong like garments, it was inhibiting to get into a fight or do hard labor while freeballing in their togas; so, before getting-to-work, they would have to tie their toga between their legs so it would not get caught on things or get pulled over their heads. This was both practical for what they were about to do, but also a visual cue to others that you are not just hanging out.
In a prison setting, inmates would quickly learn the advantages of girding up for a fight. But, seeing an inmate with his loins girded would be an immediate cue to the guards and other inmates that things are about to go sideways.
This gives the guards the opportunity to intervene before things get out of hand.
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There are several important aspects to clothing a prison would hand out. It's not necessary for prison clothing to be all these things, but most of them is a plus.
- Inexpensive.
- Reasonably durable (no buttons, zippers, or places easy to tear; needs to go through the wash with ease).
- As few different versions as possible (you want to avoid clothing where you must supply 20 different sizes; 2-3 main sizes and a couple of outliers would be ideal).
- Can not be used as a weapon (belts, for example) or to conceal weapons.
- Does not interfere with any prison activity (handcuffs, anklecuffs if used, prison work details).
- Bonus: Should make a person quickly identifiable as a prisoner (this is often done with otherwise ordinary clothing with an unusual color or pattern).
Plain undershirts are excellent contenders. They are comfortable, easy to make in unusual colors and patterns, cheap, light, easy to throw in commercial washing machines, or wash and dry by hand if that's the local culture, and each person can get away with wearing a few different sizes (so you just need small, medium, and large to fit most of the population).
Sarongs also fit the criteria. You only have to have 2-3 different sizes to fit most men, they don't need buttons or zippers to stay on, and so forth.
If a sarong is part of the local clothing culture, then it would fit in, even if many youth would be turned off by it. If the local culture is one that would never use a sarong, it could have a humiliation factor (it's a skirt!) or it could be an excellent way to keep nighttime escapes down, as prisoners would be easily identified as such.
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Except you missed the whole point of it being a VR prison and none of these matter.
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@Thorne It's fiction. Real world stuff doesn't ever matter in fiction because there's nothing real about it. But we as creators/authors still care about reality and choose to let it inform our choices to varying degrees. VR is just a different medium for fiction.
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It's fiction about prisoners in a VR world. Cost, durability, sizes doesn't matter in a program fiction or no fiction.
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@Thorne According to the OP, it's basically a Sims world. Those factors do matter there.
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The same and only reason prisons ever have for placing restrictions on anyone or anything: because they're totalitarian institutes that literally exist to make life miserable for the inmates. Having tried to sleep in a sarong on a couple of occasions I can attest that this certainly would make a lot of people miserable.
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Lungi or Indian sarong has ends stitched together. So it's more like a tube rather than an open sheet. And that along with a vest is ideal nightwear for old generation Indian men
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– Sikh and ye shall find
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@Sikhandyeshallfind Yeah I've never tried to sleep in one of those, that might be easier to deal with than the sheet wrap sarong, those are a nightmare. If a prison was going to use a sarong it'd have to be the sheet.
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– Ash
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Then again, some folks find the sarong (and its various worldwide relatives) to be quite comfy indeed!
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– elemtilas
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The same and only reason prisons ever have for placing restrictions on anyone or anything: because they're totalitarian institutes that literally exist to make life miserable for the inmates. Having tried to sleep in a sarong on a couple of occasions I can attest that this certainly would make a lot of people miserable.
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Lungi or Indian sarong has ends stitched together. So it's more like a tube rather than an open sheet. And that along with a vest is ideal nightwear for old generation Indian men
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– Sikh and ye shall find
9 hours ago
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@Sikhandyeshallfind Yeah I've never tried to sleep in one of those, that might be easier to deal with than the sheet wrap sarong, those are a nightmare. If a prison was going to use a sarong it'd have to be the sheet.
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– Ash
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Then again, some folks find the sarong (and its various worldwide relatives) to be quite comfy indeed!
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– elemtilas
5 hours ago
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The same and only reason prisons ever have for placing restrictions on anyone or anything: because they're totalitarian institutes that literally exist to make life miserable for the inmates. Having tried to sleep in a sarong on a couple of occasions I can attest that this certainly would make a lot of people miserable.
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The same and only reason prisons ever have for placing restrictions on anyone or anything: because they're totalitarian institutes that literally exist to make life miserable for the inmates. Having tried to sleep in a sarong on a couple of occasions I can attest that this certainly would make a lot of people miserable.
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Lungi or Indian sarong has ends stitched together. So it's more like a tube rather than an open sheet. And that along with a vest is ideal nightwear for old generation Indian men
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– Sikh and ye shall find
9 hours ago
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@Sikhandyeshallfind Yeah I've never tried to sleep in one of those, that might be easier to deal with than the sheet wrap sarong, those are a nightmare. If a prison was going to use a sarong it'd have to be the sheet.
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– Ash
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Then again, some folks find the sarong (and its various worldwide relatives) to be quite comfy indeed!
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– elemtilas
5 hours ago
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Lungi or Indian sarong has ends stitched together. So it's more like a tube rather than an open sheet. And that along with a vest is ideal nightwear for old generation Indian men
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– Sikh and ye shall find
9 hours ago
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@Sikhandyeshallfind Yeah I've never tried to sleep in one of those, that might be easier to deal with than the sheet wrap sarong, those are a nightmare. If a prison was going to use a sarong it'd have to be the sheet.
$endgroup$
– Ash
9 hours ago
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Then again, some folks find the sarong (and its various worldwide relatives) to be quite comfy indeed!
$endgroup$
– elemtilas
5 hours ago
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Lungi or Indian sarong has ends stitched together. So it's more like a tube rather than an open sheet. And that along with a vest is ideal nightwear for old generation Indian men
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– Sikh and ye shall find
9 hours ago
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Lungi or Indian sarong has ends stitched together. So it's more like a tube rather than an open sheet. And that along with a vest is ideal nightwear for old generation Indian men
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– Sikh and ye shall find
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@Sikhandyeshallfind Yeah I've never tried to sleep in one of those, that might be easier to deal with than the sheet wrap sarong, those are a nightmare. If a prison was going to use a sarong it'd have to be the sheet.
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– Ash
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@Sikhandyeshallfind Yeah I've never tried to sleep in one of those, that might be easier to deal with than the sheet wrap sarong, those are a nightmare. If a prison was going to use a sarong it'd have to be the sheet.
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– Ash
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Then again, some folks find the sarong (and its various worldwide relatives) to be quite comfy indeed!
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– elemtilas
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Then again, some folks find the sarong (and its various worldwide relatives) to be quite comfy indeed!
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According to modern theories, prison sentences (and other punishments by the criminal justice system) serve multiple functions:
- The prisoner is prevented from crimes against the general public while imprisoned. He or she can only offend against other prisoners or prison staff.
- Under coercion, the prisoner is taught lessons for a crime-free life which he or she might have avoided in freedom -- drug therapy, school and vocational training, living a structured life.
- The prisoner is deterred from repeat crimes when he or she experiences the consequences of being caught.
- Members of the public other than the sentenced criminal are deterred from crime when they see the consequences of being caught.
- Victims and members of the general public feel satisfaction at witnessing punishment, and their moral standards are reinforced.
Nations differ in the emphasis on different functions of prison sentences. Some hardly try to rehabilitate the prisoner. Others see this as the key role of the criminal justice system. Some make conditions as harsh as possible to reinforce the deterrence effect, others do so as punishment.
I assume that the clothing is no ordinary nightgown for males in the culture your describe. If that were the case, the prison system might simply give everyone the standard and leave it at that. And since you talk about a VR prison, presumably there are no cost reasons to select this kind of clothing and not another one-size-fits-all.
- It could be deliberate humiliation to enhance the deterrence function.
- It could be deliberate humiliation to enhance the punishment.
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According to modern theories, prison sentences (and other punishments by the criminal justice system) serve multiple functions:
- The prisoner is prevented from crimes against the general public while imprisoned. He or she can only offend against other prisoners or prison staff.
- Under coercion, the prisoner is taught lessons for a crime-free life which he or she might have avoided in freedom -- drug therapy, school and vocational training, living a structured life.
- The prisoner is deterred from repeat crimes when he or she experiences the consequences of being caught.
- Members of the public other than the sentenced criminal are deterred from crime when they see the consequences of being caught.
- Victims and members of the general public feel satisfaction at witnessing punishment, and their moral standards are reinforced.
Nations differ in the emphasis on different functions of prison sentences. Some hardly try to rehabilitate the prisoner. Others see this as the key role of the criminal justice system. Some make conditions as harsh as possible to reinforce the deterrence effect, others do so as punishment.
I assume that the clothing is no ordinary nightgown for males in the culture your describe. If that were the case, the prison system might simply give everyone the standard and leave it at that. And since you talk about a VR prison, presumably there are no cost reasons to select this kind of clothing and not another one-size-fits-all.
- It could be deliberate humiliation to enhance the deterrence function.
- It could be deliberate humiliation to enhance the punishment.
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According to modern theories, prison sentences (and other punishments by the criminal justice system) serve multiple functions:
- The prisoner is prevented from crimes against the general public while imprisoned. He or she can only offend against other prisoners or prison staff.
- Under coercion, the prisoner is taught lessons for a crime-free life which he or she might have avoided in freedom -- drug therapy, school and vocational training, living a structured life.
- The prisoner is deterred from repeat crimes when he or she experiences the consequences of being caught.
- Members of the public other than the sentenced criminal are deterred from crime when they see the consequences of being caught.
- Victims and members of the general public feel satisfaction at witnessing punishment, and their moral standards are reinforced.
Nations differ in the emphasis on different functions of prison sentences. Some hardly try to rehabilitate the prisoner. Others see this as the key role of the criminal justice system. Some make conditions as harsh as possible to reinforce the deterrence effect, others do so as punishment.
I assume that the clothing is no ordinary nightgown for males in the culture your describe. If that were the case, the prison system might simply give everyone the standard and leave it at that. And since you talk about a VR prison, presumably there are no cost reasons to select this kind of clothing and not another one-size-fits-all.
- It could be deliberate humiliation to enhance the deterrence function.
- It could be deliberate humiliation to enhance the punishment.
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According to modern theories, prison sentences (and other punishments by the criminal justice system) serve multiple functions:
- The prisoner is prevented from crimes against the general public while imprisoned. He or she can only offend against other prisoners or prison staff.
- Under coercion, the prisoner is taught lessons for a crime-free life which he or she might have avoided in freedom -- drug therapy, school and vocational training, living a structured life.
- The prisoner is deterred from repeat crimes when he or she experiences the consequences of being caught.
- Members of the public other than the sentenced criminal are deterred from crime when they see the consequences of being caught.
- Victims and members of the general public feel satisfaction at witnessing punishment, and their moral standards are reinforced.
Nations differ in the emphasis on different functions of prison sentences. Some hardly try to rehabilitate the prisoner. Others see this as the key role of the criminal justice system. Some make conditions as harsh as possible to reinforce the deterrence effect, others do so as punishment.
I assume that the clothing is no ordinary nightgown for males in the culture your describe. If that were the case, the prison system might simply give everyone the standard and leave it at that. And since you talk about a VR prison, presumably there are no cost reasons to select this kind of clothing and not another one-size-fits-all.
- It could be deliberate humiliation to enhance the deterrence function.
- It could be deliberate humiliation to enhance the punishment.
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In a VR world... you could make them dress up like the little mermaid and it would not matter. VR aesthetics as are just that, and there is no practical purpose to how you skin your inmates other than making them look how you want them to look. They can't conceal knife better because they are wearing loose clothes, they can't be slowed down just because you render them with a ball and chain. Etc.
In the real world; however, there are some distinct advantages to this attire:
Ever heard the term "gird your loins"? In the ancient world, where men routinely wore sarong like garments, it was inhibiting to get into a fight or do hard labor while freeballing in their togas; so, before getting-to-work, they would have to tie their toga between their legs so it would not get caught on things or get pulled over their heads. This was both practical for what they were about to do, but also a visual cue to others that you are not just hanging out.
In a prison setting, inmates would quickly learn the advantages of girding up for a fight. But, seeing an inmate with his loins girded would be an immediate cue to the guards and other inmates that things are about to go sideways.
This gives the guards the opportunity to intervene before things get out of hand.
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In a VR world... you could make them dress up like the little mermaid and it would not matter. VR aesthetics as are just that, and there is no practical purpose to how you skin your inmates other than making them look how you want them to look. They can't conceal knife better because they are wearing loose clothes, they can't be slowed down just because you render them with a ball and chain. Etc.
In the real world; however, there are some distinct advantages to this attire:
Ever heard the term "gird your loins"? In the ancient world, where men routinely wore sarong like garments, it was inhibiting to get into a fight or do hard labor while freeballing in their togas; so, before getting-to-work, they would have to tie their toga between their legs so it would not get caught on things or get pulled over their heads. This was both practical for what they were about to do, but also a visual cue to others that you are not just hanging out.
In a prison setting, inmates would quickly learn the advantages of girding up for a fight. But, seeing an inmate with his loins girded would be an immediate cue to the guards and other inmates that things are about to go sideways.
This gives the guards the opportunity to intervene before things get out of hand.
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In a VR world... you could make them dress up like the little mermaid and it would not matter. VR aesthetics as are just that, and there is no practical purpose to how you skin your inmates other than making them look how you want them to look. They can't conceal knife better because they are wearing loose clothes, they can't be slowed down just because you render them with a ball and chain. Etc.
In the real world; however, there are some distinct advantages to this attire:
Ever heard the term "gird your loins"? In the ancient world, where men routinely wore sarong like garments, it was inhibiting to get into a fight or do hard labor while freeballing in their togas; so, before getting-to-work, they would have to tie their toga between their legs so it would not get caught on things or get pulled over their heads. This was both practical for what they were about to do, but also a visual cue to others that you are not just hanging out.
In a prison setting, inmates would quickly learn the advantages of girding up for a fight. But, seeing an inmate with his loins girded would be an immediate cue to the guards and other inmates that things are about to go sideways.
This gives the guards the opportunity to intervene before things get out of hand.
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In a VR world... you could make them dress up like the little mermaid and it would not matter. VR aesthetics as are just that, and there is no practical purpose to how you skin your inmates other than making them look how you want them to look. They can't conceal knife better because they are wearing loose clothes, they can't be slowed down just because you render them with a ball and chain. Etc.
In the real world; however, there are some distinct advantages to this attire:
Ever heard the term "gird your loins"? In the ancient world, where men routinely wore sarong like garments, it was inhibiting to get into a fight or do hard labor while freeballing in their togas; so, before getting-to-work, they would have to tie their toga between their legs so it would not get caught on things or get pulled over their heads. This was both practical for what they were about to do, but also a visual cue to others that you are not just hanging out.
In a prison setting, inmates would quickly learn the advantages of girding up for a fight. But, seeing an inmate with his loins girded would be an immediate cue to the guards and other inmates that things are about to go sideways.
This gives the guards the opportunity to intervene before things get out of hand.
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There are several important aspects to clothing a prison would hand out. It's not necessary for prison clothing to be all these things, but most of them is a plus.
- Inexpensive.
- Reasonably durable (no buttons, zippers, or places easy to tear; needs to go through the wash with ease).
- As few different versions as possible (you want to avoid clothing where you must supply 20 different sizes; 2-3 main sizes and a couple of outliers would be ideal).
- Can not be used as a weapon (belts, for example) or to conceal weapons.
- Does not interfere with any prison activity (handcuffs, anklecuffs if used, prison work details).
- Bonus: Should make a person quickly identifiable as a prisoner (this is often done with otherwise ordinary clothing with an unusual color or pattern).
Plain undershirts are excellent contenders. They are comfortable, easy to make in unusual colors and patterns, cheap, light, easy to throw in commercial washing machines, or wash and dry by hand if that's the local culture, and each person can get away with wearing a few different sizes (so you just need small, medium, and large to fit most of the population).
Sarongs also fit the criteria. You only have to have 2-3 different sizes to fit most men, they don't need buttons or zippers to stay on, and so forth.
If a sarong is part of the local clothing culture, then it would fit in, even if many youth would be turned off by it. If the local culture is one that would never use a sarong, it could have a humiliation factor (it's a skirt!) or it could be an excellent way to keep nighttime escapes down, as prisoners would be easily identified as such.
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Except you missed the whole point of it being a VR prison and none of these matter.
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– Thorne
2 hours ago
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@Thorne It's fiction. Real world stuff doesn't ever matter in fiction because there's nothing real about it. But we as creators/authors still care about reality and choose to let it inform our choices to varying degrees. VR is just a different medium for fiction.
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– Cyn
2 hours ago
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It's fiction about prisoners in a VR world. Cost, durability, sizes doesn't matter in a program fiction or no fiction.
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– Thorne
1 hour ago
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@Thorne According to the OP, it's basically a Sims world. Those factors do matter there.
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– Cyn
1 hour ago
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There are several important aspects to clothing a prison would hand out. It's not necessary for prison clothing to be all these things, but most of them is a plus.
- Inexpensive.
- Reasonably durable (no buttons, zippers, or places easy to tear; needs to go through the wash with ease).
- As few different versions as possible (you want to avoid clothing where you must supply 20 different sizes; 2-3 main sizes and a couple of outliers would be ideal).
- Can not be used as a weapon (belts, for example) or to conceal weapons.
- Does not interfere with any prison activity (handcuffs, anklecuffs if used, prison work details).
- Bonus: Should make a person quickly identifiable as a prisoner (this is often done with otherwise ordinary clothing with an unusual color or pattern).
Plain undershirts are excellent contenders. They are comfortable, easy to make in unusual colors and patterns, cheap, light, easy to throw in commercial washing machines, or wash and dry by hand if that's the local culture, and each person can get away with wearing a few different sizes (so you just need small, medium, and large to fit most of the population).
Sarongs also fit the criteria. You only have to have 2-3 different sizes to fit most men, they don't need buttons or zippers to stay on, and so forth.
If a sarong is part of the local clothing culture, then it would fit in, even if many youth would be turned off by it. If the local culture is one that would never use a sarong, it could have a humiliation factor (it's a skirt!) or it could be an excellent way to keep nighttime escapes down, as prisoners would be easily identified as such.
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Except you missed the whole point of it being a VR prison and none of these matter.
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– Thorne
2 hours ago
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@Thorne It's fiction. Real world stuff doesn't ever matter in fiction because there's nothing real about it. But we as creators/authors still care about reality and choose to let it inform our choices to varying degrees. VR is just a different medium for fiction.
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– Cyn
2 hours ago
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It's fiction about prisoners in a VR world. Cost, durability, sizes doesn't matter in a program fiction or no fiction.
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– Thorne
1 hour ago
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@Thorne According to the OP, it's basically a Sims world. Those factors do matter there.
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– Cyn
1 hour ago
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There are several important aspects to clothing a prison would hand out. It's not necessary for prison clothing to be all these things, but most of them is a plus.
- Inexpensive.
- Reasonably durable (no buttons, zippers, or places easy to tear; needs to go through the wash with ease).
- As few different versions as possible (you want to avoid clothing where you must supply 20 different sizes; 2-3 main sizes and a couple of outliers would be ideal).
- Can not be used as a weapon (belts, for example) or to conceal weapons.
- Does not interfere with any prison activity (handcuffs, anklecuffs if used, prison work details).
- Bonus: Should make a person quickly identifiable as a prisoner (this is often done with otherwise ordinary clothing with an unusual color or pattern).
Plain undershirts are excellent contenders. They are comfortable, easy to make in unusual colors and patterns, cheap, light, easy to throw in commercial washing machines, or wash and dry by hand if that's the local culture, and each person can get away with wearing a few different sizes (so you just need small, medium, and large to fit most of the population).
Sarongs also fit the criteria. You only have to have 2-3 different sizes to fit most men, they don't need buttons or zippers to stay on, and so forth.
If a sarong is part of the local clothing culture, then it would fit in, even if many youth would be turned off by it. If the local culture is one that would never use a sarong, it could have a humiliation factor (it's a skirt!) or it could be an excellent way to keep nighttime escapes down, as prisoners would be easily identified as such.
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There are several important aspects to clothing a prison would hand out. It's not necessary for prison clothing to be all these things, but most of them is a plus.
- Inexpensive.
- Reasonably durable (no buttons, zippers, or places easy to tear; needs to go through the wash with ease).
- As few different versions as possible (you want to avoid clothing where you must supply 20 different sizes; 2-3 main sizes and a couple of outliers would be ideal).
- Can not be used as a weapon (belts, for example) or to conceal weapons.
- Does not interfere with any prison activity (handcuffs, anklecuffs if used, prison work details).
- Bonus: Should make a person quickly identifiable as a prisoner (this is often done with otherwise ordinary clothing with an unusual color or pattern).
Plain undershirts are excellent contenders. They are comfortable, easy to make in unusual colors and patterns, cheap, light, easy to throw in commercial washing machines, or wash and dry by hand if that's the local culture, and each person can get away with wearing a few different sizes (so you just need small, medium, and large to fit most of the population).
Sarongs also fit the criteria. You only have to have 2-3 different sizes to fit most men, they don't need buttons or zippers to stay on, and so forth.
If a sarong is part of the local clothing culture, then it would fit in, even if many youth would be turned off by it. If the local culture is one that would never use a sarong, it could have a humiliation factor (it's a skirt!) or it could be an excellent way to keep nighttime escapes down, as prisoners would be easily identified as such.
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Except you missed the whole point of it being a VR prison and none of these matter.
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– Thorne
2 hours ago
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@Thorne It's fiction. Real world stuff doesn't ever matter in fiction because there's nothing real about it. But we as creators/authors still care about reality and choose to let it inform our choices to varying degrees. VR is just a different medium for fiction.
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– Cyn
2 hours ago
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It's fiction about prisoners in a VR world. Cost, durability, sizes doesn't matter in a program fiction or no fiction.
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– Thorne
1 hour ago
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@Thorne According to the OP, it's basically a Sims world. Those factors do matter there.
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– Cyn
1 hour ago
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Except you missed the whole point of it being a VR prison and none of these matter.
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– Thorne
2 hours ago
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@Thorne It's fiction. Real world stuff doesn't ever matter in fiction because there's nothing real about it. But we as creators/authors still care about reality and choose to let it inform our choices to varying degrees. VR is just a different medium for fiction.
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– Cyn
2 hours ago
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It's fiction about prisoners in a VR world. Cost, durability, sizes doesn't matter in a program fiction or no fiction.
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– Thorne
1 hour ago
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@Thorne According to the OP, it's basically a Sims world. Those factors do matter there.
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– Cyn
1 hour ago
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Except you missed the whole point of it being a VR prison and none of these matter.
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– Thorne
2 hours ago
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Except you missed the whole point of it being a VR prison and none of these matter.
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– Thorne
2 hours ago
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@Thorne It's fiction. Real world stuff doesn't ever matter in fiction because there's nothing real about it. But we as creators/authors still care about reality and choose to let it inform our choices to varying degrees. VR is just a different medium for fiction.
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– Cyn
2 hours ago
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@Thorne It's fiction. Real world stuff doesn't ever matter in fiction because there's nothing real about it. But we as creators/authors still care about reality and choose to let it inform our choices to varying degrees. VR is just a different medium for fiction.
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– Cyn
2 hours ago
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It's fiction about prisoners in a VR world. Cost, durability, sizes doesn't matter in a program fiction or no fiction.
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– Thorne
1 hour ago
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It's fiction about prisoners in a VR world. Cost, durability, sizes doesn't matter in a program fiction or no fiction.
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– Thorne
1 hour ago
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@Thorne According to the OP, it's basically a Sims world. Those factors do matter there.
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– Cyn
1 hour ago
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@Thorne According to the OP, it's basically a Sims world. Those factors do matter there.
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– Cyn
1 hour ago
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Prisons can have very restrictive rules which sometimes defy common sense.
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– Alexander
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If it's in VR, why would it matter what kind of clothing they provide? It could just a default setting in VRPrison.exe.
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I say @Alexander nailed it.
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– Carl Witthoft
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One reasoning could be :. It's a poor country prison like Bangladesh. And of mix including both young men and older. So everyone should hv some night dress code to avoid discrimination. Of course it would be most difficult for young men to sleep in lungi as most of them might be used to pajamas.
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– Sikh and ye shall find
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I assumed that VR means virtual reality. Was this mistaken?
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