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How does a headhunter poach employees at competitors' stores, without anyone noticing?
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I work as a Shop Manager at a multinational luxury clothing retailer. My boss sat down with me and my managerial colleagues. She suspects some employees got poached from our store, and asked us if we saw. We said no. She reminded us to contact her if we see anything cagey. I asked if she had any tips, but she said no special skills were required. "Just keep your eyes peeled".
I'm boggled by the Reddit comments under. Obviously the scout wouldn't wear her own company's uniform. But how can she slip her business card without worrying about other employees noticing? What if her business card's forwarded to the competitor's legal counsel who may sue her in tort? IANAL, but perhaps tortious interference like inducing a breach of contract? Nuisance and trespassing torts?
And how can she speak in person to an employee? Other employees in the store can overhear.
Do these scouters have other tactics?
Comments from this 13 Jun 2018 post
Solid-Liquid. 16 points 1 year ago
I’ve seen the Lowes store manager come into our store. He has told me if I’m ever interested, to let him know
QuanahParker80. 8 points 1 year ago
I've scouted Lowe's fairly regularly and have poached a few associates. Don't see how this is a surprise
Psykerr. 2 points 1 year ago
One of my old SM's used to try to poach from the Lowes across the road. He would hand his card out to anyone who gave him a glimmer of good customer service.
Comments from this 7 Sep 2018 post
DollarSignsGoFirst. 60 points 10 months ago
Often times employees in these positions feel undervalued and overlooked. So having someone else say “wow you’re doing an awesome job. I’d love for you to come work for me at XYZ” sounds good because it’s a change and the person seems nice.
weedful_things. 15 points 10 months ago
The operations manager walked up to me to say how bad he felt that I have been working 60 hour weeks because they can't find anyone decent to hire. Sometimes the manager brings me an ice cream or a gift card. I told him that was like when a man beats his wife and takes her out to dinner the next day.
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I work as a Shop Manager at a multinational luxury clothing retailer. My boss sat down with me and my managerial colleagues. She suspects some employees got poached from our store, and asked us if we saw. We said no. She reminded us to contact her if we see anything cagey. I asked if she had any tips, but she said no special skills were required. "Just keep your eyes peeled".
I'm boggled by the Reddit comments under. Obviously the scout wouldn't wear her own company's uniform. But how can she slip her business card without worrying about other employees noticing? What if her business card's forwarded to the competitor's legal counsel who may sue her in tort? IANAL, but perhaps tortious interference like inducing a breach of contract? Nuisance and trespassing torts?
And how can she speak in person to an employee? Other employees in the store can overhear.
Do these scouters have other tactics?
Comments from this 13 Jun 2018 post
Solid-Liquid. 16 points 1 year ago
I’ve seen the Lowes store manager come into our store. He has told me if I’m ever interested, to let him know
QuanahParker80. 8 points 1 year ago
I've scouted Lowe's fairly regularly and have poached a few associates. Don't see how this is a surprise
Psykerr. 2 points 1 year ago
One of my old SM's used to try to poach from the Lowes across the road. He would hand his card out to anyone who gave him a glimmer of good customer service.
Comments from this 7 Sep 2018 post
DollarSignsGoFirst. 60 points 10 months ago
Often times employees in these positions feel undervalued and overlooked. So having someone else say “wow you’re doing an awesome job. I’d love for you to come work for me at XYZ” sounds good because it’s a change and the person seems nice.
weedful_things. 15 points 10 months ago
The operations manager walked up to me to say how bad he felt that I have been working 60 hour weeks because they can't find anyone decent to hire. Sometimes the manager brings me an ice cream or a gift card. I told him that was like when a man beats his wife and takes her out to dinner the next day.
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What is your actual question? You already answered the title in your own post (walk in, and offer a job).
– Juha Untinen
59 mins ago
Instead of a face to face interaction, if the headhunter do call you over phone, is that (more) acceptable? Why?
– Sourav Ghosh
54 mins ago
"her business card will be forwarded to the competitor's store's legal counsel who may sue her?" Handwaving a lot, you can sue only for breach of contract. There is no contract here, therefore no possibility to sue.
– Philip Kendall
47 mins ago
@PhilipKendall I was referring to tort law, not contract. Can't the competitor sue for tortious interference like INDUCING a breach of contract? I don't know about nuisance and trespassing torts.
– Explorer
38 mins ago
IANAL but it seems to me you'll have great difficulty arguing that someone is trespassing in a space to which the public are invited. And are they actually encouraging beach of contract, or just saying "give notice as required and rage a different job".
– Philip Kendall
30 mins ago
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I work as a Shop Manager at a multinational luxury clothing retailer. My boss sat down with me and my managerial colleagues. She suspects some employees got poached from our store, and asked us if we saw. We said no. She reminded us to contact her if we see anything cagey. I asked if she had any tips, but she said no special skills were required. "Just keep your eyes peeled".
I'm boggled by the Reddit comments under. Obviously the scout wouldn't wear her own company's uniform. But how can she slip her business card without worrying about other employees noticing? What if her business card's forwarded to the competitor's legal counsel who may sue her in tort? IANAL, but perhaps tortious interference like inducing a breach of contract? Nuisance and trespassing torts?
And how can she speak in person to an employee? Other employees in the store can overhear.
Do these scouters have other tactics?
Comments from this 13 Jun 2018 post
Solid-Liquid. 16 points 1 year ago
I’ve seen the Lowes store manager come into our store. He has told me if I’m ever interested, to let him know
QuanahParker80. 8 points 1 year ago
I've scouted Lowe's fairly regularly and have poached a few associates. Don't see how this is a surprise
Psykerr. 2 points 1 year ago
One of my old SM's used to try to poach from the Lowes across the road. He would hand his card out to anyone who gave him a glimmer of good customer service.
Comments from this 7 Sep 2018 post
DollarSignsGoFirst. 60 points 10 months ago
Often times employees in these positions feel undervalued and overlooked. So having someone else say “wow you’re doing an awesome job. I’d love for you to come work for me at XYZ” sounds good because it’s a change and the person seems nice.
weedful_things. 15 points 10 months ago
The operations manager walked up to me to say how bad he felt that I have been working 60 hour weeks because they can't find anyone decent to hire. Sometimes the manager brings me an ice cream or a gift card. I told him that was like when a man beats his wife and takes her out to dinner the next day.
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I work as a Shop Manager at a multinational luxury clothing retailer. My boss sat down with me and my managerial colleagues. She suspects some employees got poached from our store, and asked us if we saw. We said no. She reminded us to contact her if we see anything cagey. I asked if she had any tips, but she said no special skills were required. "Just keep your eyes peeled".
I'm boggled by the Reddit comments under. Obviously the scout wouldn't wear her own company's uniform. But how can she slip her business card without worrying about other employees noticing? What if her business card's forwarded to the competitor's legal counsel who may sue her in tort? IANAL, but perhaps tortious interference like inducing a breach of contract? Nuisance and trespassing torts?
And how can she speak in person to an employee? Other employees in the store can overhear.
Do these scouters have other tactics?
Comments from this 13 Jun 2018 post
Solid-Liquid. 16 points 1 year ago
I’ve seen the Lowes store manager come into our store. He has told me if I’m ever interested, to let him know
QuanahParker80. 8 points 1 year ago
I've scouted Lowe's fairly regularly and have poached a few associates. Don't see how this is a surprise
Psykerr. 2 points 1 year ago
One of my old SM's used to try to poach from the Lowes across the road. He would hand his card out to anyone who gave him a glimmer of good customer service.
Comments from this 7 Sep 2018 post
DollarSignsGoFirst. 60 points 10 months ago
Often times employees in these positions feel undervalued and overlooked. So having someone else say “wow you’re doing an awesome job. I’d love for you to come work for me at XYZ” sounds good because it’s a change and the person seems nice.
weedful_things. 15 points 10 months ago
The operations manager walked up to me to say how bad he felt that I have been working 60 hour weeks because they can't find anyone decent to hire. Sometimes the manager brings me an ice cream or a gift card. I told him that was like when a man beats his wife and takes her out to dinner the next day.
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What is your actual question? You already answered the title in your own post (walk in, and offer a job).
– Juha Untinen
59 mins ago
Instead of a face to face interaction, if the headhunter do call you over phone, is that (more) acceptable? Why?
– Sourav Ghosh
54 mins ago
"her business card will be forwarded to the competitor's store's legal counsel who may sue her?" Handwaving a lot, you can sue only for breach of contract. There is no contract here, therefore no possibility to sue.
– Philip Kendall
47 mins ago
@PhilipKendall I was referring to tort law, not contract. Can't the competitor sue for tortious interference like INDUCING a breach of contract? I don't know about nuisance and trespassing torts.
– Explorer
38 mins ago
IANAL but it seems to me you'll have great difficulty arguing that someone is trespassing in a space to which the public are invited. And are they actually encouraging beach of contract, or just saying "give notice as required and rage a different job".
– Philip Kendall
30 mins ago
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show 1 more comment
What is your actual question? You already answered the title in your own post (walk in, and offer a job).
– Juha Untinen
59 mins ago
Instead of a face to face interaction, if the headhunter do call you over phone, is that (more) acceptable? Why?
– Sourav Ghosh
54 mins ago
"her business card will be forwarded to the competitor's store's legal counsel who may sue her?" Handwaving a lot, you can sue only for breach of contract. There is no contract here, therefore no possibility to sue.
– Philip Kendall
47 mins ago
@PhilipKendall I was referring to tort law, not contract. Can't the competitor sue for tortious interference like INDUCING a breach of contract? I don't know about nuisance and trespassing torts.
– Explorer
38 mins ago
IANAL but it seems to me you'll have great difficulty arguing that someone is trespassing in a space to which the public are invited. And are they actually encouraging beach of contract, or just saying "give notice as required and rage a different job".
– Philip Kendall
30 mins ago
What is your actual question? You already answered the title in your own post (walk in, and offer a job).
– Juha Untinen
59 mins ago
What is your actual question? You already answered the title in your own post (walk in, and offer a job).
– Juha Untinen
59 mins ago
Instead of a face to face interaction, if the headhunter do call you over phone, is that (more) acceptable? Why?
– Sourav Ghosh
54 mins ago
Instead of a face to face interaction, if the headhunter do call you over phone, is that (more) acceptable? Why?
– Sourav Ghosh
54 mins ago
"her business card will be forwarded to the competitor's store's legal counsel who may sue her?" Handwaving a lot, you can sue only for breach of contract. There is no contract here, therefore no possibility to sue.
– Philip Kendall
47 mins ago
"her business card will be forwarded to the competitor's store's legal counsel who may sue her?" Handwaving a lot, you can sue only for breach of contract. There is no contract here, therefore no possibility to sue.
– Philip Kendall
47 mins ago
@PhilipKendall I was referring to tort law, not contract. Can't the competitor sue for tortious interference like INDUCING a breach of contract? I don't know about nuisance and trespassing torts.
– Explorer
38 mins ago
@PhilipKendall I was referring to tort law, not contract. Can't the competitor sue for tortious interference like INDUCING a breach of contract? I don't know about nuisance and trespassing torts.
– Explorer
38 mins ago
IANAL but it seems to me you'll have great difficulty arguing that someone is trespassing in a space to which the public are invited. And are they actually encouraging beach of contract, or just saying "give notice as required and rage a different job".
– Philip Kendall
30 mins ago
IANAL but it seems to me you'll have great difficulty arguing that someone is trespassing in a space to which the public are invited. And are they actually encouraging beach of contract, or just saying "give notice as required and rage a different job".
– Philip Kendall
30 mins ago
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It is perfectly legal to talk to your employees and offer them a job elsewehere. The "scout" wouldn't have to keep this secret at all. She doesn't need to worry that it gets noticed if the scout gives someone a business card, because it's perfectly fine. If someone notices, they are given a business card as well. If they talk to someone and are overheard, it doesn't matter.
Does workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/140528/… change your mind?
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"It is perfectly legal to talk to your employees and offer them a job elsewehere." I meant employees at your competitors' stores.
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It is perfectly legal to talk to your employees and offer them a job elsewehere. The "scout" wouldn't have to keep this secret at all. She doesn't need to worry that it gets noticed if the scout gives someone a business card, because it's perfectly fine. If someone notices, they are given a business card as well. If they talk to someone and are overheard, it doesn't matter.
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"It is perfectly legal to talk to your employees and offer them a job elsewehere." I meant employees at your competitors' stores.
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It is perfectly legal to talk to your employees and offer them a job elsewehere. The "scout" wouldn't have to keep this secret at all. She doesn't need to worry that it gets noticed if the scout gives someone a business card, because it's perfectly fine. If someone notices, they are given a business card as well. If they talk to someone and are overheard, it doesn't matter.
Does workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/140528/… change your mind?
– Explorer
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"It is perfectly legal to talk to your employees and offer them a job elsewehere." I meant employees at your competitors' stores.
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It is perfectly legal to talk to your employees and offer them a job elsewehere. The "scout" wouldn't have to keep this secret at all. She doesn't need to worry that it gets noticed if the scout gives someone a business card, because it's perfectly fine. If someone notices, they are given a business card as well. If they talk to someone and are overheard, it doesn't matter.
It is perfectly legal to talk to your employees and offer them a job elsewehere. The "scout" wouldn't have to keep this secret at all. She doesn't need to worry that it gets noticed if the scout gives someone a business card, because it's perfectly fine. If someone notices, they are given a business card as well. If they talk to someone and are overheard, it doesn't matter.
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"It is perfectly legal to talk to your employees and offer them a job elsewehere." I meant employees at your competitors' stores.
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What is your actual question? You already answered the title in your own post (walk in, and offer a job).
– Juha Untinen
59 mins ago
Instead of a face to face interaction, if the headhunter do call you over phone, is that (more) acceptable? Why?
– Sourav Ghosh
54 mins ago
"her business card will be forwarded to the competitor's store's legal counsel who may sue her?" Handwaving a lot, you can sue only for breach of contract. There is no contract here, therefore no possibility to sue.
– Philip Kendall
47 mins ago
@PhilipKendall I was referring to tort law, not contract. Can't the competitor sue for tortious interference like INDUCING a breach of contract? I don't know about nuisance and trespassing torts.
– Explorer
38 mins ago
IANAL but it seems to me you'll have great difficulty arguing that someone is trespassing in a space to which the public are invited. And are they actually encouraging beach of contract, or just saying "give notice as required and rage a different job".
– Philip Kendall
30 mins ago