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I've been looking up some PhD student's websites, and there are people who somehow got 10~30+ total papers with 5~10+ first author papers. Many such students are in computer science, but there are a few in fields like bioinformatics. Some garnered 100+ citations before graduation.
How did they do this? This makes me uneasy about my chances for tenure track position in the future. I just finished my 3rd Ph.D year at a descent US institution. My field is closely related to bioinformatics, and I am aiming for a tenure track position in a similar field. But if my top competitors are of such caliber (10+ papers 100+ citations), I'm guessing my chances are slim.
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I've been looking up some PhD student's websites, and there are people who somehow got 10~30+ total papers with 5~10+ first author papers. Many such students are in computer science, but there are a few in fields like bioinformatics. Some garnered 100+ citations before graduation.
How did they do this? This makes me uneasy about my chances for tenure track position in the future. I just finished my 3rd Ph.D year at a descent US institution. My field is closely related to bioinformatics, and I am aiming for a tenure track position in a similar field. But if my top competitors are of such caliber (10+ papers 100+ citations), I'm guessing my chances are slim.
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It's not clear to me that this line of inquiry is going to be all that productive. I understand that as a PhD student that will be on the job market in a couple of years it's completely natural to search for the accomplishments you'll need in order to guarantee that your job search will be successful. But the truth is that there's so much random luck and timing in the process that no such criteria really exist. All you can do is work as hard as you can and hope for the best. Good luck.
– Ben Linowitz
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1. Figure out what job you want to get. 2. Examine the record of people who have that job. 3. Do better than they did. This is different from what you have been doing. Many PhD students never apply for tenure track jobs, and many of the applicants have not been PhD students for some time (this varies by field).
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I've been looking up some PhD student's websites, and there are people who somehow got 10~30+ total papers with 5~10+ first author papers. Many such students are in computer science, but there are a few in fields like bioinformatics. Some garnered 100+ citations before graduation.
How did they do this? This makes me uneasy about my chances for tenure track position in the future. I just finished my 3rd Ph.D year at a descent US institution. My field is closely related to bioinformatics, and I am aiming for a tenure track position in a similar field. But if my top competitors are of such caliber (10+ papers 100+ citations), I'm guessing my chances are slim.
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I've been looking up some PhD student's websites, and there are people who somehow got 10~30+ total papers with 5~10+ first author papers. Many such students are in computer science, but there are a few in fields like bioinformatics. Some garnered 100+ citations before graduation.
How did they do this? This makes me uneasy about my chances for tenure track position in the future. I just finished my 3rd Ph.D year at a descent US institution. My field is closely related to bioinformatics, and I am aiming for a tenure track position in a similar field. But if my top competitors are of such caliber (10+ papers 100+ citations), I'm guessing my chances are slim.
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It's not clear to me that this line of inquiry is going to be all that productive. I understand that as a PhD student that will be on the job market in a couple of years it's completely natural to search for the accomplishments you'll need in order to guarantee that your job search will be successful. But the truth is that there's so much random luck and timing in the process that no such criteria really exist. All you can do is work as hard as you can and hope for the best. Good luck.
– Ben Linowitz
8 hours ago
1
1. Figure out what job you want to get. 2. Examine the record of people who have that job. 3. Do better than they did. This is different from what you have been doing. Many PhD students never apply for tenure track jobs, and many of the applicants have not been PhD students for some time (this varies by field).
– Anonymous Physicist
5 hours ago
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It's not clear to me that this line of inquiry is going to be all that productive. I understand that as a PhD student that will be on the job market in a couple of years it's completely natural to search for the accomplishments you'll need in order to guarantee that your job search will be successful. But the truth is that there's so much random luck and timing in the process that no such criteria really exist. All you can do is work as hard as you can and hope for the best. Good luck.
– Ben Linowitz
8 hours ago
1
1. Figure out what job you want to get. 2. Examine the record of people who have that job. 3. Do better than they did. This is different from what you have been doing. Many PhD students never apply for tenure track jobs, and many of the applicants have not been PhD students for some time (this varies by field).
– Anonymous Physicist
5 hours ago
It's not clear to me that this line of inquiry is going to be all that productive. I understand that as a PhD student that will be on the job market in a couple of years it's completely natural to search for the accomplishments you'll need in order to guarantee that your job search will be successful. But the truth is that there's so much random luck and timing in the process that no such criteria really exist. All you can do is work as hard as you can and hope for the best. Good luck.
– Ben Linowitz
8 hours ago
It's not clear to me that this line of inquiry is going to be all that productive. I understand that as a PhD student that will be on the job market in a couple of years it's completely natural to search for the accomplishments you'll need in order to guarantee that your job search will be successful. But the truth is that there's so much random luck and timing in the process that no such criteria really exist. All you can do is work as hard as you can and hope for the best. Good luck.
– Ben Linowitz
8 hours ago
1
1
1. Figure out what job you want to get. 2. Examine the record of people who have that job. 3. Do better than they did. This is different from what you have been doing. Many PhD students never apply for tenure track jobs, and many of the applicants have not been PhD students for some time (this varies by field).
– Anonymous Physicist
5 hours ago
1. Figure out what job you want to get. 2. Examine the record of people who have that job. 3. Do better than they did. This is different from what you have been doing. Many PhD students never apply for tenure track jobs, and many of the applicants have not been PhD students for some time (this varies by field).
– Anonymous Physicist
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First, that's not a useful question to ask, primarily because it's nothing you can control in any reasonable way.
Second, just because some graduate students have someone come up with such statistics does not imply that your average competitor has. It's a bit similar to the average physicist not having published three papers at the age of 27 all of which could have gotten a Nobel Prize on their own -- even though Einstein did. You will always have people who are far better than everyone else, and they will likely get positions somewhere, but they're not going to fill all available positions.
Finally, publications are just one measure search committees use to determine who to hire. There are many questions on this forum that discuss the many many other criteria used, so I won't repeat them, but you might want to read through these other posts to see that publications are really just one of many criteria.
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There are some institutions where there is common practice to put ones peers as co-authors even if they had nothing to do with it. On top of this, there are these "paper-producing factories" where the main objective is just to produce paper after paper.
I'm not saying that these individual geniuses with these citations honestly doesn't exist, but personally I'd be cautious about just accepting them right away as the truth and instead consider a bulk of them to be untruthful.
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First, that's not a useful question to ask, primarily because it's nothing you can control in any reasonable way.
Second, just because some graduate students have someone come up with such statistics does not imply that your average competitor has. It's a bit similar to the average physicist not having published three papers at the age of 27 all of which could have gotten a Nobel Prize on their own -- even though Einstein did. You will always have people who are far better than everyone else, and they will likely get positions somewhere, but they're not going to fill all available positions.
Finally, publications are just one measure search committees use to determine who to hire. There are many questions on this forum that discuss the many many other criteria used, so I won't repeat them, but you might want to read through these other posts to see that publications are really just one of many criteria.
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First, that's not a useful question to ask, primarily because it's nothing you can control in any reasonable way.
Second, just because some graduate students have someone come up with such statistics does not imply that your average competitor has. It's a bit similar to the average physicist not having published three papers at the age of 27 all of which could have gotten a Nobel Prize on their own -- even though Einstein did. You will always have people who are far better than everyone else, and they will likely get positions somewhere, but they're not going to fill all available positions.
Finally, publications are just one measure search committees use to determine who to hire. There are many questions on this forum that discuss the many many other criteria used, so I won't repeat them, but you might want to read through these other posts to see that publications are really just one of many criteria.
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First, that's not a useful question to ask, primarily because it's nothing you can control in any reasonable way.
Second, just because some graduate students have someone come up with such statistics does not imply that your average competitor has. It's a bit similar to the average physicist not having published three papers at the age of 27 all of which could have gotten a Nobel Prize on their own -- even though Einstein did. You will always have people who are far better than everyone else, and they will likely get positions somewhere, but they're not going to fill all available positions.
Finally, publications are just one measure search committees use to determine who to hire. There are many questions on this forum that discuss the many many other criteria used, so I won't repeat them, but you might want to read through these other posts to see that publications are really just one of many criteria.
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First, that's not a useful question to ask, primarily because it's nothing you can control in any reasonable way.
Second, just because some graduate students have someone come up with such statistics does not imply that your average competitor has. It's a bit similar to the average physicist not having published three papers at the age of 27 all of which could have gotten a Nobel Prize on their own -- even though Einstein did. You will always have people who are far better than everyone else, and they will likely get positions somewhere, but they're not going to fill all available positions.
Finally, publications are just one measure search committees use to determine who to hire. There are many questions on this forum that discuss the many many other criteria used, so I won't repeat them, but you might want to read through these other posts to see that publications are really just one of many criteria.
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There are some institutions where there is common practice to put ones peers as co-authors even if they had nothing to do with it. On top of this, there are these "paper-producing factories" where the main objective is just to produce paper after paper.
I'm not saying that these individual geniuses with these citations honestly doesn't exist, but personally I'd be cautious about just accepting them right away as the truth and instead consider a bulk of them to be untruthful.
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There are some institutions where there is common practice to put ones peers as co-authors even if they had nothing to do with it. On top of this, there are these "paper-producing factories" where the main objective is just to produce paper after paper.
I'm not saying that these individual geniuses with these citations honestly doesn't exist, but personally I'd be cautious about just accepting them right away as the truth and instead consider a bulk of them to be untruthful.
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There are some institutions where there is common practice to put ones peers as co-authors even if they had nothing to do with it. On top of this, there are these "paper-producing factories" where the main objective is just to produce paper after paper.
I'm not saying that these individual geniuses with these citations honestly doesn't exist, but personally I'd be cautious about just accepting them right away as the truth and instead consider a bulk of them to be untruthful.
answered 3 mins ago
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There are some institutions where there is common practice to put ones peers as co-authors even if they had nothing to do with it. On top of this, there are these "paper-producing factories" where the main objective is just to produce paper after paper.
I'm not saying that these individual geniuses with these citations honestly doesn't exist, but personally I'd be cautious about just accepting them right away as the truth and instead consider a bulk of them to be untruthful.
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It's not clear to me that this line of inquiry is going to be all that productive. I understand that as a PhD student that will be on the job market in a couple of years it's completely natural to search for the accomplishments you'll need in order to guarantee that your job search will be successful. But the truth is that there's so much random luck and timing in the process that no such criteria really exist. All you can do is work as hard as you can and hope for the best. Good luck.
– Ben Linowitz
8 hours ago
1
1. Figure out what job you want to get. 2. Examine the record of people who have that job. 3. Do better than they did. This is different from what you have been doing. Many PhD students never apply for tenure track jobs, and many of the applicants have not been PhD students for some time (this varies by field).
– Anonymous Physicist
5 hours ago