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Would you use llamarse for an animal's name?


How would you translate “redactar” into English?Under what circumstances would I use “que”?I see evidence that “las fieras” is more frequent than “los fieros.” If true, why?How does a doctor phrase expressions of empathy in Spanish? Similar to “I'm sorry to hear that…”What is the difference between “tirada” and “difusión” and can you use “circulación” or “distribución” for either or both?How would you say “to time a race”Spanish expression for this specific use of “You want” or “You are looking for…”Is the use of two “que” in a row sanctioned by the RAE?using Se before intransitive verbsIs “idiomático” a false cognate of “idiomatic”?













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Often in the Spanish language you would indicate someone's name using the verb 'llamarse', for example if you say 'his name is Joe' it would typically be




Él se llama Joe




which literally translates to 'he calls himself Joe'. A problem arises however, when you're talking about animals. Outside of the occasional 'Polly wants a cracker' animals don't call themselves anything at all, not being using any language and all.




El perro se llama Fido




Would it be weird at all to say this, as opposed to something like




El nombre del perro es Fido




On one hand its what you use for people too, so you would think it would be much simpler to just be uniform across both. But on the other hand the animal doesn't actually use that name. I guess I might just be overthinking it, and its something that no native Spanish speakers ever think of, just some weird quirk no one ever realized, but maybe not.



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  • If you think about it -- a newborn is given a name, but the baby doesn't call himself that yet. // "Se llama" doesn't actually mean "he calls himself." The conundrum you found only exists if you believe that it does mean "he calls himself."

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Often in the Spanish language you would indicate someone's name using the verb 'llamarse', for example if you say 'his name is Joe' it would typically be




Él se llama Joe




which literally translates to 'he calls himself Joe'. A problem arises however, when you're talking about animals. Outside of the occasional 'Polly wants a cracker' animals don't call themselves anything at all, not being using any language and all.




El perro se llama Fido




Would it be weird at all to say this, as opposed to something like




El nombre del perro es Fido




On one hand its what you use for people too, so you would think it would be much simpler to just be uniform across both. But on the other hand the animal doesn't actually use that name. I guess I might just be overthinking it, and its something that no native Spanish speakers ever think of, just some weird quirk no one ever realized, but maybe not.



bonus points for how it would work with inanimate objects.










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  • If you think about it -- a newborn is given a name, but the baby doesn't call himself that yet. // "Se llama" doesn't actually mean "he calls himself." The conundrum you found only exists if you believe that it does mean "he calls himself."

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Often in the Spanish language you would indicate someone's name using the verb 'llamarse', for example if you say 'his name is Joe' it would typically be




Él se llama Joe




which literally translates to 'he calls himself Joe'. A problem arises however, when you're talking about animals. Outside of the occasional 'Polly wants a cracker' animals don't call themselves anything at all, not being using any language and all.




El perro se llama Fido




Would it be weird at all to say this, as opposed to something like




El nombre del perro es Fido




On one hand its what you use for people too, so you would think it would be much simpler to just be uniform across both. But on the other hand the animal doesn't actually use that name. I guess I might just be overthinking it, and its something that no native Spanish speakers ever think of, just some weird quirk no one ever realized, but maybe not.



bonus points for how it would work with inanimate objects.










share|improve this question














Often in the Spanish language you would indicate someone's name using the verb 'llamarse', for example if you say 'his name is Joe' it would typically be




Él se llama Joe




which literally translates to 'he calls himself Joe'. A problem arises however, when you're talking about animals. Outside of the occasional 'Polly wants a cracker' animals don't call themselves anything at all, not being using any language and all.




El perro se llama Fido




Would it be weird at all to say this, as opposed to something like




El nombre del perro es Fido




On one hand its what you use for people too, so you would think it would be much simpler to just be uniform across both. But on the other hand the animal doesn't actually use that name. I guess I might just be overthinking it, and its something that no native Spanish speakers ever think of, just some weird quirk no one ever realized, but maybe not.



bonus points for how it would work with inanimate objects.







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  • If you think about it -- a newborn is given a name, but the baby doesn't call himself that yet. // "Se llama" doesn't actually mean "he calls himself." The conundrum you found only exists if you believe that it does mean "he calls himself."

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  • If you think about it -- a newborn is given a name, but the baby doesn't call himself that yet. // "Se llama" doesn't actually mean "he calls himself." The conundrum you found only exists if you believe that it does mean "he calls himself."

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If you think about it -- a newborn is given a name, but the baby doesn't call himself that yet. // "Se llama" doesn't actually mean "he calls himself." The conundrum you found only exists if you believe that it does mean "he calls himself."

– aparente001
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If you think about it -- a newborn is given a name, but the baby doesn't call himself that yet. // "Se llama" doesn't actually mean "he calls himself." The conundrum you found only exists if you believe that it does mean "he calls himself."

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While one of the uses of se is indeed to make a verb reflexive, it has a number of other uses. One of those other uses is — in third person — to make the verb passive. Thus,




El perro se llama Fido




would not be interpreted as equivalent to




El perro se llama Fido a sí mismo




but rather to




El perro es llamado Fido, or

Llaman al perro Fido




Because the lines between the passive/reflexive/pronominal/reciprocal/impersonal uses of se can be quite blurry at times, I don't think Spanish speakers ever really think about it. Using it with inanimate things is no problem:




Este libro se llama El Quijote

El regodeo en alemán famosamente se llama Schadenfreude.




The DLE feels apt to declare this a pronominal use, but as you can see, it can be seen as a passive form (or even, in the single, an impersonal!):




  1. prnl. Tener el nombre o la denominación que se expresa.






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    While one of the uses of se is indeed to make a verb reflexive, it has a number of other uses. One of those other uses is — in third person — to make the verb passive. Thus,




    El perro se llama Fido




    would not be interpreted as equivalent to




    El perro se llama Fido a sí mismo




    but rather to




    El perro es llamado Fido, or

    Llaman al perro Fido




    Because the lines between the passive/reflexive/pronominal/reciprocal/impersonal uses of se can be quite blurry at times, I don't think Spanish speakers ever really think about it. Using it with inanimate things is no problem:




    Este libro se llama El Quijote

    El regodeo en alemán famosamente se llama Schadenfreude.




    The DLE feels apt to declare this a pronominal use, but as you can see, it can be seen as a passive form (or even, in the single, an impersonal!):




    1. prnl. Tener el nombre o la denominación que se expresa.






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      While one of the uses of se is indeed to make a verb reflexive, it has a number of other uses. One of those other uses is — in third person — to make the verb passive. Thus,




      El perro se llama Fido




      would not be interpreted as equivalent to




      El perro se llama Fido a sí mismo




      but rather to




      El perro es llamado Fido, or

      Llaman al perro Fido




      Because the lines between the passive/reflexive/pronominal/reciprocal/impersonal uses of se can be quite blurry at times, I don't think Spanish speakers ever really think about it. Using it with inanimate things is no problem:




      Este libro se llama El Quijote

      El regodeo en alemán famosamente se llama Schadenfreude.




      The DLE feels apt to declare this a pronominal use, but as you can see, it can be seen as a passive form (or even, in the single, an impersonal!):




      1. prnl. Tener el nombre o la denominación que se expresa.






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        While one of the uses of se is indeed to make a verb reflexive, it has a number of other uses. One of those other uses is — in third person — to make the verb passive. Thus,




        El perro se llama Fido




        would not be interpreted as equivalent to




        El perro se llama Fido a sí mismo




        but rather to




        El perro es llamado Fido, or

        Llaman al perro Fido




        Because the lines between the passive/reflexive/pronominal/reciprocal/impersonal uses of se can be quite blurry at times, I don't think Spanish speakers ever really think about it. Using it with inanimate things is no problem:




        Este libro se llama El Quijote

        El regodeo en alemán famosamente se llama Schadenfreude.




        The DLE feels apt to declare this a pronominal use, but as you can see, it can be seen as a passive form (or even, in the single, an impersonal!):




        1. prnl. Tener el nombre o la denominación que se expresa.






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        While one of the uses of se is indeed to make a verb reflexive, it has a number of other uses. One of those other uses is — in third person — to make the verb passive. Thus,




        El perro se llama Fido




        would not be interpreted as equivalent to




        El perro se llama Fido a sí mismo




        but rather to




        El perro es llamado Fido, or

        Llaman al perro Fido




        Because the lines between the passive/reflexive/pronominal/reciprocal/impersonal uses of se can be quite blurry at times, I don't think Spanish speakers ever really think about it. Using it with inanimate things is no problem:




        Este libro se llama El Quijote

        El regodeo en alemán famosamente se llama Schadenfreude.




        The DLE feels apt to declare this a pronominal use, but as you can see, it can be seen as a passive form (or even, in the single, an impersonal!):




        1. prnl. Tener el nombre o la denominación que se expresa.







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