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This might sound like a stupid question, but I want a confirmation. I watched a video on Youtube about using LEDs. Those LEDs required a voltage around 2 volts at 20 mA.



In order to power one LED using a 5 volts power supply, the author used a resistor in series. He calculated he needed around 150 ohms (using U=RI, 5-2=3 volts, 3V/20mA=150ohms).



What I find disturbing is that the resistor, in order to control the voltage must be consuming energy too. P=UI, so 3x20mA=60mW, on top of the LED 2x20mA=40mW. In other words, adding +150% energy consumption to the actual need for lighting up the LED.



Am I missing something or is it typical to spend extra energy just to be able to use electronic components that require a lower voltage?
And second question, is there a way to avoid doing it for this type of circuit (5V source, 2V LED)?










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    This might sound like a stupid question, but I want a confirmation. I watched a video on Youtube about using LEDs. Those LEDs required a voltage around 2 volts at 20 mA.



    In order to power one LED using a 5 volts power supply, the author used a resistor in series. He calculated he needed around 150 ohms (using U=RI, 5-2=3 volts, 3V/20mA=150ohms).



    What I find disturbing is that the resistor, in order to control the voltage must be consuming energy too. P=UI, so 3x20mA=60mW, on top of the LED 2x20mA=40mW. In other words, adding +150% energy consumption to the actual need for lighting up the LED.



    Am I missing something or is it typical to spend extra energy just to be able to use electronic components that require a lower voltage?
    And second question, is there a way to avoid doing it for this type of circuit (5V source, 2V LED)?










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      This might sound like a stupid question, but I want a confirmation. I watched a video on Youtube about using LEDs. Those LEDs required a voltage around 2 volts at 20 mA.



      In order to power one LED using a 5 volts power supply, the author used a resistor in series. He calculated he needed around 150 ohms (using U=RI, 5-2=3 volts, 3V/20mA=150ohms).



      What I find disturbing is that the resistor, in order to control the voltage must be consuming energy too. P=UI, so 3x20mA=60mW, on top of the LED 2x20mA=40mW. In other words, adding +150% energy consumption to the actual need for lighting up the LED.



      Am I missing something or is it typical to spend extra energy just to be able to use electronic components that require a lower voltage?
      And second question, is there a way to avoid doing it for this type of circuit (5V source, 2V LED)?










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      This might sound like a stupid question, but I want a confirmation. I watched a video on Youtube about using LEDs. Those LEDs required a voltage around 2 volts at 20 mA.



      In order to power one LED using a 5 volts power supply, the author used a resistor in series. He calculated he needed around 150 ohms (using U=RI, 5-2=3 volts, 3V/20mA=150ohms).



      What I find disturbing is that the resistor, in order to control the voltage must be consuming energy too. P=UI, so 3x20mA=60mW, on top of the LED 2x20mA=40mW. In other words, adding +150% energy consumption to the actual need for lighting up the LED.



      Am I missing something or is it typical to spend extra energy just to be able to use electronic components that require a lower voltage?
      And second question, is there a way to avoid doing it for this type of circuit (5V source, 2V LED)?







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          Yes, that resistor wastes power.



          If the author is using an LED for an indicator light, then they're wasting a lot more power by their choice of LED. An LED that needs 20mA to show up in a brightly-lit room is typical of 1970's technology. If you shop for higher-brightness LEDs you'll blast your eyeballs out at 20mA, and you'll find yourself stopping the thing down to 1mA or so. One such LED, with a matching resistor, would use 3.3mW at 3.3V, where a 20mA, 1.5V LED alone (never mind the resistor) would use 30mW.



          The ultimate way to reduce the circuit power consumption would be to use the most efficient LEDs that you could find, and power them with a switching converter. A decent switching converter will have somewhere between 80% and 95% efficiency, so you'll use between 25 and 5% more power than just the LED. But you'd have to use one per LED (or LED string), and it's hard to justify a super-efficient switching converter for each indicator light.






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            You've got the right idea. Partly.



            An LED used with a series resistor does waste the energy dissipated in the resistor. Depending on the voltage from the power supply, you can easily waste more energy in the resistor than you use for the LED.



            So far, you are correct.



            What I want to correct is the idea that the resistor is there to lower the voltage.



            The resistor is there to limit the current.



            LEDs are current driven devices. The forward voltage varies with current and temperature.



            To get a stable brightness out of an LED, you regulate the current.



            You will have noticed that the calculation for the series resistor uses the desired LED current. You take the difference of the supply voltage and the (approximate) forward voltage of the LED, and divide that by the current to find the value for the series resistor.



            If you tried to regulate an LED only by regulating the voltage, then you would destroy your LED very quickly. Just below the forward voltage, the LED doesn't light up at all. Just above the forward voltage the LED becomes the next best thing to a short circuit. There is a tiny range in between where it lights up and passes only a little bit of current.



            That little range is impossible to hit with just a voltage regulator - it moves with temperature and current - current makes the LED get warmer, and warmer makes the LED conduct more. You would be varying the voltage up and down wildly with some kind of feedback circuit measuring the current.



            Or, just regulate the current to begin with. Provide no more current than needed to light your LED at the desired brightness, and let the voltage do as it pleases - the voltage is of no interest.






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            No, you are not missing anything. The energy consumed by the resistor is wasted but, if you were contemplating a circuit that used tens or hundreds of LEDs you might consider a buck regulator to step the LED circuit supply voltage down to maybe 3 volts and make a significant net power saving per LED drive.



            You’ll still need a 50 ohm resistor but it will only be dropping around 1 volt and dissipating only 20 mW.



            The good news is that many modern LEDs need only a couple of mA to obtain sufficient brightness for “standard” applications.






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              Here's what you're missing. Your power supply has a given potentional: 5V. That isn't going away. When you put 5V across a component that can't handle it, you MUST do something with that extra potential or you will unbalance the voltage/current ratio in the circuit-- and the component will be damaged (in this case the LED).



              The LED is not in and of itself strong-enough to resist the potential applied across it- That is specifically why the datasheet is telling you it can only withstand a potential across it of 2VDC. That's the first thing. The second thing is how much energy you blow through it- in this case, the datasheet apparently says 20mA. Understand that just because a datasheet provides a MAXIMUM current value of 20mA, it does not mean you should actually operate the device at that level (or should you). There will usually be no appreciable difference between 8-10mA and 20mA, depending on color.



              The resistor you use is doing a couple of things- it is taking up the slack for the voltage the LED can't handle, and it is limiting the current through the LED to what you designate you want to run through it.



              The heat being dissipated by the resistor is NOT excess or left-over, it's actually only the heat being generated by the amount of current you are limiting the LED to. That's an important point. The resistor cannot dissipate energy that isn't flowing through it. And it certainly is NOT carrying the full current of your power-supply.



              So, Ohm's Laws says:



              R = E / I
              R = 5-2 / 0.008
              R = 3 / 0.008
              R = 375 Ohms


              In this case, we'll go with 360 Ohms (it's the closest available).



              I = E / R
              I = 5-2 / 360
              I = 3 / 360
              I = 0.0083 (or 8.3mA).


              Now that you know how much current is flowing, and what resistor to use, you can calculate how fat a resistor you need, based on what it's dissipating:



              Watt's Law is handy here:



              P = I E
              P = 0.0083 * 3
              P = 0.0249 Watts
              P = 24.9mW


              Now that you know how much energy is dissipated, you can size the resistor. An 8th Watt (1/8th of a Watt) Resistor will dissipate 250mW. For safety, you want a resistor that can handle twice what your Wattage requirements are. Therefore, 24.9*2 = 49.8mW . That small amount is far less than 250mW, so you can use an 8th-Watt resistor.



              Hope that helps.






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              One point I would like to mention is the circuits which are meant to be drive LEDs. The constant current circuitry can come in handy to save power when multiple LEDs are needed to be driven.






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                That's a really valid point. Past a certain number of resistors it becomes more cost effective in terms of PCB space, component cost, and circuit complexity, to use a constant current mechanism, which only requires perhaps 2 BJTs and 2 resistors.
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              Without the resistor to limit current flow, the LED heats up, draws even more current, and burns out. On high power LEDs, an active circuit to control the current is used instead, acting the same as a switching power supply.






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                Yes, that resistor wastes power.



                If the author is using an LED for an indicator light, then they're wasting a lot more power by their choice of LED. An LED that needs 20mA to show up in a brightly-lit room is typical of 1970's technology. If you shop for higher-brightness LEDs you'll blast your eyeballs out at 20mA, and you'll find yourself stopping the thing down to 1mA or so. One such LED, with a matching resistor, would use 3.3mW at 3.3V, where a 20mA, 1.5V LED alone (never mind the resistor) would use 30mW.



                The ultimate way to reduce the circuit power consumption would be to use the most efficient LEDs that you could find, and power them with a switching converter. A decent switching converter will have somewhere between 80% and 95% efficiency, so you'll use between 25 and 5% more power than just the LED. But you'd have to use one per LED (or LED string), and it's hard to justify a super-efficient switching converter for each indicator light.






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                  Yes, that resistor wastes power.



                  If the author is using an LED for an indicator light, then they're wasting a lot more power by their choice of LED. An LED that needs 20mA to show up in a brightly-lit room is typical of 1970's technology. If you shop for higher-brightness LEDs you'll blast your eyeballs out at 20mA, and you'll find yourself stopping the thing down to 1mA or so. One such LED, with a matching resistor, would use 3.3mW at 3.3V, where a 20mA, 1.5V LED alone (never mind the resistor) would use 30mW.



                  The ultimate way to reduce the circuit power consumption would be to use the most efficient LEDs that you could find, and power them with a switching converter. A decent switching converter will have somewhere between 80% and 95% efficiency, so you'll use between 25 and 5% more power than just the LED. But you'd have to use one per LED (or LED string), and it's hard to justify a super-efficient switching converter for each indicator light.






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                    Yes, that resistor wastes power.



                    If the author is using an LED for an indicator light, then they're wasting a lot more power by their choice of LED. An LED that needs 20mA to show up in a brightly-lit room is typical of 1970's technology. If you shop for higher-brightness LEDs you'll blast your eyeballs out at 20mA, and you'll find yourself stopping the thing down to 1mA or so. One such LED, with a matching resistor, would use 3.3mW at 3.3V, where a 20mA, 1.5V LED alone (never mind the resistor) would use 30mW.



                    The ultimate way to reduce the circuit power consumption would be to use the most efficient LEDs that you could find, and power them with a switching converter. A decent switching converter will have somewhere between 80% and 95% efficiency, so you'll use between 25 and 5% more power than just the LED. But you'd have to use one per LED (or LED string), and it's hard to justify a super-efficient switching converter for each indicator light.






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                    Yes, that resistor wastes power.



                    If the author is using an LED for an indicator light, then they're wasting a lot more power by their choice of LED. An LED that needs 20mA to show up in a brightly-lit room is typical of 1970's technology. If you shop for higher-brightness LEDs you'll blast your eyeballs out at 20mA, and you'll find yourself stopping the thing down to 1mA or so. One such LED, with a matching resistor, would use 3.3mW at 3.3V, where a 20mA, 1.5V LED alone (never mind the resistor) would use 30mW.



                    The ultimate way to reduce the circuit power consumption would be to use the most efficient LEDs that you could find, and power them with a switching converter. A decent switching converter will have somewhere between 80% and 95% efficiency, so you'll use between 25 and 5% more power than just the LED. But you'd have to use one per LED (or LED string), and it's hard to justify a super-efficient switching converter for each indicator light.







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                        You've got the right idea. Partly.



                        An LED used with a series resistor does waste the energy dissipated in the resistor. Depending on the voltage from the power supply, you can easily waste more energy in the resistor than you use for the LED.



                        So far, you are correct.



                        What I want to correct is the idea that the resistor is there to lower the voltage.



                        The resistor is there to limit the current.



                        LEDs are current driven devices. The forward voltage varies with current and temperature.



                        To get a stable brightness out of an LED, you regulate the current.



                        You will have noticed that the calculation for the series resistor uses the desired LED current. You take the difference of the supply voltage and the (approximate) forward voltage of the LED, and divide that by the current to find the value for the series resistor.



                        If you tried to regulate an LED only by regulating the voltage, then you would destroy your LED very quickly. Just below the forward voltage, the LED doesn't light up at all. Just above the forward voltage the LED becomes the next best thing to a short circuit. There is a tiny range in between where it lights up and passes only a little bit of current.



                        That little range is impossible to hit with just a voltage regulator - it moves with temperature and current - current makes the LED get warmer, and warmer makes the LED conduct more. You would be varying the voltage up and down wildly with some kind of feedback circuit measuring the current.



                        Or, just regulate the current to begin with. Provide no more current than needed to light your LED at the desired brightness, and let the voltage do as it pleases - the voltage is of no interest.






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                        You've got the right idea. Partly.



                        An LED used with a series resistor does waste the energy dissipated in the resistor. Depending on the voltage from the power supply, you can easily waste more energy in the resistor than you use for the LED.



                        So far, you are correct.



                        What I want to correct is the idea that the resistor is there to lower the voltage.



                        The resistor is there to limit the current.



                        LEDs are current driven devices. The forward voltage varies with current and temperature.



                        To get a stable brightness out of an LED, you regulate the current.



                        You will have noticed that the calculation for the series resistor uses the desired LED current. You take the difference of the supply voltage and the (approximate) forward voltage of the LED, and divide that by the current to find the value for the series resistor.



                        If you tried to regulate an LED only by regulating the voltage, then you would destroy your LED very quickly. Just below the forward voltage, the LED doesn't light up at all. Just above the forward voltage the LED becomes the next best thing to a short circuit. There is a tiny range in between where it lights up and passes only a little bit of current.



                        That little range is impossible to hit with just a voltage regulator - it moves with temperature and current - current makes the LED get warmer, and warmer makes the LED conduct more. You would be varying the voltage up and down wildly with some kind of feedback circuit measuring the current.



                        Or, just regulate the current to begin with. Provide no more current than needed to light your LED at the desired brightness, and let the voltage do as it pleases - the voltage is of no interest.






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                        You've got the right idea. Partly.



                        An LED used with a series resistor does waste the energy dissipated in the resistor. Depending on the voltage from the power supply, you can easily waste more energy in the resistor than you use for the LED.



                        So far, you are correct.



                        What I want to correct is the idea that the resistor is there to lower the voltage.



                        The resistor is there to limit the current.



                        LEDs are current driven devices. The forward voltage varies with current and temperature.



                        To get a stable brightness out of an LED, you regulate the current.



                        You will have noticed that the calculation for the series resistor uses the desired LED current. You take the difference of the supply voltage and the (approximate) forward voltage of the LED, and divide that by the current to find the value for the series resistor.



                        If you tried to regulate an LED only by regulating the voltage, then you would destroy your LED very quickly. Just below the forward voltage, the LED doesn't light up at all. Just above the forward voltage the LED becomes the next best thing to a short circuit. There is a tiny range in between where it lights up and passes only a little bit of current.



                        That little range is impossible to hit with just a voltage regulator - it moves with temperature and current - current makes the LED get warmer, and warmer makes the LED conduct more. You would be varying the voltage up and down wildly with some kind of feedback circuit measuring the current.



                        Or, just regulate the current to begin with. Provide no more current than needed to light your LED at the desired brightness, and let the voltage do as it pleases - the voltage is of no interest.






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                        You've got the right idea. Partly.



                        An LED used with a series resistor does waste the energy dissipated in the resistor. Depending on the voltage from the power supply, you can easily waste more energy in the resistor than you use for the LED.



                        So far, you are correct.



                        What I want to correct is the idea that the resistor is there to lower the voltage.



                        The resistor is there to limit the current.



                        LEDs are current driven devices. The forward voltage varies with current and temperature.



                        To get a stable brightness out of an LED, you regulate the current.



                        You will have noticed that the calculation for the series resistor uses the desired LED current. You take the difference of the supply voltage and the (approximate) forward voltage of the LED, and divide that by the current to find the value for the series resistor.



                        If you tried to regulate an LED only by regulating the voltage, then you would destroy your LED very quickly. Just below the forward voltage, the LED doesn't light up at all. Just above the forward voltage the LED becomes the next best thing to a short circuit. There is a tiny range in between where it lights up and passes only a little bit of current.



                        That little range is impossible to hit with just a voltage regulator - it moves with temperature and current - current makes the LED get warmer, and warmer makes the LED conduct more. You would be varying the voltage up and down wildly with some kind of feedback circuit measuring the current.



                        Or, just regulate the current to begin with. Provide no more current than needed to light your LED at the desired brightness, and let the voltage do as it pleases - the voltage is of no interest.







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                        No, you are not missing anything. The energy consumed by the resistor is wasted but, if you were contemplating a circuit that used tens or hundreds of LEDs you might consider a buck regulator to step the LED circuit supply voltage down to maybe 3 volts and make a significant net power saving per LED drive.



                        You’ll still need a 50 ohm resistor but it will only be dropping around 1 volt and dissipating only 20 mW.



                        The good news is that many modern LEDs need only a couple of mA to obtain sufficient brightness for “standard” applications.






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                          No, you are not missing anything. The energy consumed by the resistor is wasted but, if you were contemplating a circuit that used tens or hundreds of LEDs you might consider a buck regulator to step the LED circuit supply voltage down to maybe 3 volts and make a significant net power saving per LED drive.



                          You’ll still need a 50 ohm resistor but it will only be dropping around 1 volt and dissipating only 20 mW.



                          The good news is that many modern LEDs need only a couple of mA to obtain sufficient brightness for “standard” applications.






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                            No, you are not missing anything. The energy consumed by the resistor is wasted but, if you were contemplating a circuit that used tens or hundreds of LEDs you might consider a buck regulator to step the LED circuit supply voltage down to maybe 3 volts and make a significant net power saving per LED drive.



                            You’ll still need a 50 ohm resistor but it will only be dropping around 1 volt and dissipating only 20 mW.



                            The good news is that many modern LEDs need only a couple of mA to obtain sufficient brightness for “standard” applications.






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                            No, you are not missing anything. The energy consumed by the resistor is wasted but, if you were contemplating a circuit that used tens or hundreds of LEDs you might consider a buck regulator to step the LED circuit supply voltage down to maybe 3 volts and make a significant net power saving per LED drive.



                            You’ll still need a 50 ohm resistor but it will only be dropping around 1 volt and dissipating only 20 mW.



                            The good news is that many modern LEDs need only a couple of mA to obtain sufficient brightness for “standard” applications.







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                                Here's what you're missing. Your power supply has a given potentional: 5V. That isn't going away. When you put 5V across a component that can't handle it, you MUST do something with that extra potential or you will unbalance the voltage/current ratio in the circuit-- and the component will be damaged (in this case the LED).



                                The LED is not in and of itself strong-enough to resist the potential applied across it- That is specifically why the datasheet is telling you it can only withstand a potential across it of 2VDC. That's the first thing. The second thing is how much energy you blow through it- in this case, the datasheet apparently says 20mA. Understand that just because a datasheet provides a MAXIMUM current value of 20mA, it does not mean you should actually operate the device at that level (or should you). There will usually be no appreciable difference between 8-10mA and 20mA, depending on color.



                                The resistor you use is doing a couple of things- it is taking up the slack for the voltage the LED can't handle, and it is limiting the current through the LED to what you designate you want to run through it.



                                The heat being dissipated by the resistor is NOT excess or left-over, it's actually only the heat being generated by the amount of current you are limiting the LED to. That's an important point. The resistor cannot dissipate energy that isn't flowing through it. And it certainly is NOT carrying the full current of your power-supply.



                                So, Ohm's Laws says:



                                R = E / I
                                R = 5-2 / 0.008
                                R = 3 / 0.008
                                R = 375 Ohms


                                In this case, we'll go with 360 Ohms (it's the closest available).



                                I = E / R
                                I = 5-2 / 360
                                I = 3 / 360
                                I = 0.0083 (or 8.3mA).


                                Now that you know how much current is flowing, and what resistor to use, you can calculate how fat a resistor you need, based on what it's dissipating:



                                Watt's Law is handy here:



                                P = I E
                                P = 0.0083 * 3
                                P = 0.0249 Watts
                                P = 24.9mW


                                Now that you know how much energy is dissipated, you can size the resistor. An 8th Watt (1/8th of a Watt) Resistor will dissipate 250mW. For safety, you want a resistor that can handle twice what your Wattage requirements are. Therefore, 24.9*2 = 49.8mW . That small amount is far less than 250mW, so you can use an 8th-Watt resistor.



                                Hope that helps.






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                                @Exocytosis



                                Here's what you're missing. Your power supply has a given potentional: 5V. That isn't going away. When you put 5V across a component that can't handle it, you MUST do something with that extra potential or you will unbalance the voltage/current ratio in the circuit-- and the component will be damaged (in this case the LED).



                                The LED is not in and of itself strong-enough to resist the potential applied across it- That is specifically why the datasheet is telling you it can only withstand a potential across it of 2VDC. That's the first thing. The second thing is how much energy you blow through it- in this case, the datasheet apparently says 20mA. Understand that just because a datasheet provides a MAXIMUM current value of 20mA, it does not mean you should actually operate the device at that level (or should you). There will usually be no appreciable difference between 8-10mA and 20mA, depending on color.



                                The resistor you use is doing a couple of things- it is taking up the slack for the voltage the LED can't handle, and it is limiting the current through the LED to what you designate you want to run through it.



                                The heat being dissipated by the resistor is NOT excess or left-over, it's actually only the heat being generated by the amount of current you are limiting the LED to. That's an important point. The resistor cannot dissipate energy that isn't flowing through it. And it certainly is NOT carrying the full current of your power-supply.



                                So, Ohm's Laws says:



                                R = E / I
                                R = 5-2 / 0.008
                                R = 3 / 0.008
                                R = 375 Ohms


                                In this case, we'll go with 360 Ohms (it's the closest available).



                                I = E / R
                                I = 5-2 / 360
                                I = 3 / 360
                                I = 0.0083 (or 8.3mA).


                                Now that you know how much current is flowing, and what resistor to use, you can calculate how fat a resistor you need, based on what it's dissipating:



                                Watt's Law is handy here:



                                P = I E
                                P = 0.0083 * 3
                                P = 0.0249 Watts
                                P = 24.9mW


                                Now that you know how much energy is dissipated, you can size the resistor. An 8th Watt (1/8th of a Watt) Resistor will dissipate 250mW. For safety, you want a resistor that can handle twice what your Wattage requirements are. Therefore, 24.9*2 = 49.8mW . That small amount is far less than 250mW, so you can use an 8th-Watt resistor.



                                Hope that helps.






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                                @Exocytosis



                                Here's what you're missing. Your power supply has a given potentional: 5V. That isn't going away. When you put 5V across a component that can't handle it, you MUST do something with that extra potential or you will unbalance the voltage/current ratio in the circuit-- and the component will be damaged (in this case the LED).



                                The LED is not in and of itself strong-enough to resist the potential applied across it- That is specifically why the datasheet is telling you it can only withstand a potential across it of 2VDC. That's the first thing. The second thing is how much energy you blow through it- in this case, the datasheet apparently says 20mA. Understand that just because a datasheet provides a MAXIMUM current value of 20mA, it does not mean you should actually operate the device at that level (or should you). There will usually be no appreciable difference between 8-10mA and 20mA, depending on color.



                                The resistor you use is doing a couple of things- it is taking up the slack for the voltage the LED can't handle, and it is limiting the current through the LED to what you designate you want to run through it.



                                The heat being dissipated by the resistor is NOT excess or left-over, it's actually only the heat being generated by the amount of current you are limiting the LED to. That's an important point. The resistor cannot dissipate energy that isn't flowing through it. And it certainly is NOT carrying the full current of your power-supply.



                                So, Ohm's Laws says:



                                R = E / I
                                R = 5-2 / 0.008
                                R = 3 / 0.008
                                R = 375 Ohms


                                In this case, we'll go with 360 Ohms (it's the closest available).



                                I = E / R
                                I = 5-2 / 360
                                I = 3 / 360
                                I = 0.0083 (or 8.3mA).


                                Now that you know how much current is flowing, and what resistor to use, you can calculate how fat a resistor you need, based on what it's dissipating:



                                Watt's Law is handy here:



                                P = I E
                                P = 0.0083 * 3
                                P = 0.0249 Watts
                                P = 24.9mW


                                Now that you know how much energy is dissipated, you can size the resistor. An 8th Watt (1/8th of a Watt) Resistor will dissipate 250mW. For safety, you want a resistor that can handle twice what your Wattage requirements are. Therefore, 24.9*2 = 49.8mW . That small amount is far less than 250mW, so you can use an 8th-Watt resistor.



                                Hope that helps.






                                share|improve this answer









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                                @Exocytosis



                                Here's what you're missing. Your power supply has a given potentional: 5V. That isn't going away. When you put 5V across a component that can't handle it, you MUST do something with that extra potential or you will unbalance the voltage/current ratio in the circuit-- and the component will be damaged (in this case the LED).



                                The LED is not in and of itself strong-enough to resist the potential applied across it- That is specifically why the datasheet is telling you it can only withstand a potential across it of 2VDC. That's the first thing. The second thing is how much energy you blow through it- in this case, the datasheet apparently says 20mA. Understand that just because a datasheet provides a MAXIMUM current value of 20mA, it does not mean you should actually operate the device at that level (or should you). There will usually be no appreciable difference between 8-10mA and 20mA, depending on color.



                                The resistor you use is doing a couple of things- it is taking up the slack for the voltage the LED can't handle, and it is limiting the current through the LED to what you designate you want to run through it.



                                The heat being dissipated by the resistor is NOT excess or left-over, it's actually only the heat being generated by the amount of current you are limiting the LED to. That's an important point. The resistor cannot dissipate energy that isn't flowing through it. And it certainly is NOT carrying the full current of your power-supply.



                                So, Ohm's Laws says:



                                R = E / I
                                R = 5-2 / 0.008
                                R = 3 / 0.008
                                R = 375 Ohms


                                In this case, we'll go with 360 Ohms (it's the closest available).



                                I = E / R
                                I = 5-2 / 360
                                I = 3 / 360
                                I = 0.0083 (or 8.3mA).


                                Now that you know how much current is flowing, and what resistor to use, you can calculate how fat a resistor you need, based on what it's dissipating:



                                Watt's Law is handy here:



                                P = I E
                                P = 0.0083 * 3
                                P = 0.0249 Watts
                                P = 24.9mW


                                Now that you know how much energy is dissipated, you can size the resistor. An 8th Watt (1/8th of a Watt) Resistor will dissipate 250mW. For safety, you want a resistor that can handle twice what your Wattage requirements are. Therefore, 24.9*2 = 49.8mW . That small amount is far less than 250mW, so you can use an 8th-Watt resistor.



                                Hope that helps.







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                                One point I would like to mention is the circuits which are meant to be drive LEDs. The constant current circuitry can come in handy to save power when multiple LEDs are needed to be driven.






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                                  That's a really valid point. Past a certain number of resistors it becomes more cost effective in terms of PCB space, component cost, and circuit complexity, to use a constant current mechanism, which only requires perhaps 2 BJTs and 2 resistors.
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                                One point I would like to mention is the circuits which are meant to be drive LEDs. The constant current circuitry can come in handy to save power when multiple LEDs are needed to be driven.






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                                • $begingroup$
                                  That's a really valid point. Past a certain number of resistors it becomes more cost effective in terms of PCB space, component cost, and circuit complexity, to use a constant current mechanism, which only requires perhaps 2 BJTs and 2 resistors.
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                                One point I would like to mention is the circuits which are meant to be drive LEDs. The constant current circuitry can come in handy to save power when multiple LEDs are needed to be driven.






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                                One point I would like to mention is the circuits which are meant to be drive LEDs. The constant current circuitry can come in handy to save power when multiple LEDs are needed to be driven.







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                                  That's a really valid point. Past a certain number of resistors it becomes more cost effective in terms of PCB space, component cost, and circuit complexity, to use a constant current mechanism, which only requires perhaps 2 BJTs and 2 resistors.
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                                  5 hours ago
















                                • $begingroup$
                                  That's a really valid point. Past a certain number of resistors it becomes more cost effective in terms of PCB space, component cost, and circuit complexity, to use a constant current mechanism, which only requires perhaps 2 BJTs and 2 resistors.
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                                  – GSLI
                                  5 hours ago















                                $begingroup$
                                That's a really valid point. Past a certain number of resistors it becomes more cost effective in terms of PCB space, component cost, and circuit complexity, to use a constant current mechanism, which only requires perhaps 2 BJTs and 2 resistors.
                                $endgroup$
                                – GSLI
                                5 hours ago




                                $begingroup$
                                That's a really valid point. Past a certain number of resistors it becomes more cost effective in terms of PCB space, component cost, and circuit complexity, to use a constant current mechanism, which only requires perhaps 2 BJTs and 2 resistors.
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                                Without the resistor to limit current flow, the LED heats up, draws even more current, and burns out. On high power LEDs, an active circuit to control the current is used instead, acting the same as a switching power supply.






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                                  Without the resistor to limit current flow, the LED heats up, draws even more current, and burns out. On high power LEDs, an active circuit to control the current is used instead, acting the same as a switching power supply.






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                                    Without the resistor to limit current flow, the LED heats up, draws even more current, and burns out. On high power LEDs, an active circuit to control the current is used instead, acting the same as a switching power supply.






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                                    Without the resistor to limit current flow, the LED heats up, draws even more current, and burns out. On high power LEDs, an active circuit to control the current is used instead, acting the same as a switching power supply.







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