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    We were too wrapped up with beating the Russkies. It had to be the American flag or bust. Probably a return to the Moon now would be more of an international effort, making the UN flag more apropos.
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    The whole point of the Apollo missions was to demonstrate U.S. industrial/technological (and an implied military) superiority over the then Soviet Union in the midst of the cold war. Planting the U.S. flag was in a way the whole point. However, a plaque on the Apollo 11 descent stage reads, in part, "we came in peace for all mankind" - a more inclusive and more enduring message than planting any flag.
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    We were too wrapped up with beating the Russkies. It had to be the American flag or bust. Probably a return to the Moon now would be more of an international effort, making the UN flag more apropos.
    $endgroup$
    – Oscar Lanzi
    8 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    The whole point of the Apollo missions was to demonstrate U.S. industrial/technological (and an implied military) superiority over the then Soviet Union in the midst of the cold war. Planting the U.S. flag was in a way the whole point. However, a plaque on the Apollo 11 descent stage reads, in part, "we came in peace for all mankind" - a more inclusive and more enduring message than planting any flag.
    $endgroup$
    – Anthony X
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  • $begingroup$
    We were too wrapped up with beating the Russkies. It had to be the American flag or bust. Probably a return to the Moon now would be more of an international effort, making the UN flag more apropos.
    $endgroup$
    – Oscar Lanzi
    8 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The whole point of the Apollo missions was to demonstrate U.S. industrial/technological (and an implied military) superiority over the then Soviet Union in the midst of the cold war. Planting the U.S. flag was in a way the whole point. However, a plaque on the Apollo 11 descent stage reads, in part, "we came in peace for all mankind" - a more inclusive and more enduring message than planting any flag.
    $endgroup$
    – Anthony X
    8 hours ago















$begingroup$
We were too wrapped up with beating the Russkies. It had to be the American flag or bust. Probably a return to the Moon now would be more of an international effort, making the UN flag more apropos.
$endgroup$
– Oscar Lanzi
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
We were too wrapped up with beating the Russkies. It had to be the American flag or bust. Probably a return to the Moon now would be more of an international effort, making the UN flag more apropos.
$endgroup$
– Oscar Lanzi
8 hours ago




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The whole point of the Apollo missions was to demonstrate U.S. industrial/technological (and an implied military) superiority over the then Soviet Union in the midst of the cold war. Planting the U.S. flag was in a way the whole point. However, a plaque on the Apollo 11 descent stage reads, in part, "we came in peace for all mankind" - a more inclusive and more enduring message than planting any flag.
$endgroup$
– Anthony X
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
The whole point of the Apollo missions was to demonstrate U.S. industrial/technological (and an implied military) superiority over the then Soviet Union in the midst of the cold war. Planting the U.S. flag was in a way the whole point. However, a plaque on the Apollo 11 descent stage reads, in part, "we came in peace for all mankind" - a more inclusive and more enduring message than planting any flag.
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No. Planting a flag was the idea of NASA's "Mr. Fix-It", Jack Kinzler, less than 4 months before Apollo 11's launch:




Kinzler believed that the people of the United States would also want to see an American flag to commemorate the enormous achievement of landing a man on the surface of the moon. The original LM design had an American flag painted on the side of the descent stage, but he thought, “That’s not a very effective way to celebrate with an American flag.” Again with the help of McCraw, Kinzler sketched his idea of a freestanding full- size flag on a telescoping flagpole. The entire flag unit fit into a three-foot protective heat shroud attached to the LM ladder, making it accessible to the astronauts on the lunar surface, but not taking up any precious space inside the LM itself.




The committee to whom he suggested the idea turned the entire project over to him. It is clear from the article that Kinzler intended no other flag than a patriotic U.S. flag.



Kinzler's other accomplishments include:



  • Designed and built models for wind tunnel testing for NACA, NASA's predecessor.

  • Chief of Technical Services at Johnson Space Center in Houston.

  • Designed a small maneuvering unit used in Gemini spacewalks.

  • Designed the plaques on the lunar landers ("We come in peace for all mankind...").

  • Designed the golf club head that attached to the lunar sampling scoop, which Alan Shepard used to hit two golf balls on the moon.

  • Designed a sunshade for Skylab because its thermal shield was damaged at launch.

  • NASA distinguished service medal.

  • Obituary





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    No. Planting a flag was the idea of NASA's "Mr. Fix-It", Jack Kinzler, less than 4 months before Apollo 11's launch:




    Kinzler believed that the people of the United States would also want to see an American flag to commemorate the enormous achievement of landing a man on the surface of the moon. The original LM design had an American flag painted on the side of the descent stage, but he thought, “That’s not a very effective way to celebrate with an American flag.” Again with the help of McCraw, Kinzler sketched his idea of a freestanding full- size flag on a telescoping flagpole. The entire flag unit fit into a three-foot protective heat shroud attached to the LM ladder, making it accessible to the astronauts on the lunar surface, but not taking up any precious space inside the LM itself.




    The committee to whom he suggested the idea turned the entire project over to him. It is clear from the article that Kinzler intended no other flag than a patriotic U.S. flag.



    Kinzler's other accomplishments include:



    • Designed and built models for wind tunnel testing for NACA, NASA's predecessor.

    • Chief of Technical Services at Johnson Space Center in Houston.

    • Designed a small maneuvering unit used in Gemini spacewalks.

    • Designed the plaques on the lunar landers ("We come in peace for all mankind...").

    • Designed the golf club head that attached to the lunar sampling scoop, which Alan Shepard used to hit two golf balls on the moon.

    • Designed a sunshade for Skylab because its thermal shield was damaged at launch.

    • NASA distinguished service medal.

    • Obituary





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      No. Planting a flag was the idea of NASA's "Mr. Fix-It", Jack Kinzler, less than 4 months before Apollo 11's launch:




      Kinzler believed that the people of the United States would also want to see an American flag to commemorate the enormous achievement of landing a man on the surface of the moon. The original LM design had an American flag painted on the side of the descent stage, but he thought, “That’s not a very effective way to celebrate with an American flag.” Again with the help of McCraw, Kinzler sketched his idea of a freestanding full- size flag on a telescoping flagpole. The entire flag unit fit into a three-foot protective heat shroud attached to the LM ladder, making it accessible to the astronauts on the lunar surface, but not taking up any precious space inside the LM itself.




      The committee to whom he suggested the idea turned the entire project over to him. It is clear from the article that Kinzler intended no other flag than a patriotic U.S. flag.



      Kinzler's other accomplishments include:



      • Designed and built models for wind tunnel testing for NACA, NASA's predecessor.

      • Chief of Technical Services at Johnson Space Center in Houston.

      • Designed a small maneuvering unit used in Gemini spacewalks.

      • Designed the plaques on the lunar landers ("We come in peace for all mankind...").

      • Designed the golf club head that attached to the lunar sampling scoop, which Alan Shepard used to hit two golf balls on the moon.

      • Designed a sunshade for Skylab because its thermal shield was damaged at launch.

      • NASA distinguished service medal.

      • Obituary





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        No. Planting a flag was the idea of NASA's "Mr. Fix-It", Jack Kinzler, less than 4 months before Apollo 11's launch:




        Kinzler believed that the people of the United States would also want to see an American flag to commemorate the enormous achievement of landing a man on the surface of the moon. The original LM design had an American flag painted on the side of the descent stage, but he thought, “That’s not a very effective way to celebrate with an American flag.” Again with the help of McCraw, Kinzler sketched his idea of a freestanding full- size flag on a telescoping flagpole. The entire flag unit fit into a three-foot protective heat shroud attached to the LM ladder, making it accessible to the astronauts on the lunar surface, but not taking up any precious space inside the LM itself.




        The committee to whom he suggested the idea turned the entire project over to him. It is clear from the article that Kinzler intended no other flag than a patriotic U.S. flag.



        Kinzler's other accomplishments include:



        • Designed and built models for wind tunnel testing for NACA, NASA's predecessor.

        • Chief of Technical Services at Johnson Space Center in Houston.

        • Designed a small maneuvering unit used in Gemini spacewalks.

        • Designed the plaques on the lunar landers ("We come in peace for all mankind...").

        • Designed the golf club head that attached to the lunar sampling scoop, which Alan Shepard used to hit two golf balls on the moon.

        • Designed a sunshade for Skylab because its thermal shield was damaged at launch.

        • NASA distinguished service medal.

        • Obituary





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        No. Planting a flag was the idea of NASA's "Mr. Fix-It", Jack Kinzler, less than 4 months before Apollo 11's launch:




        Kinzler believed that the people of the United States would also want to see an American flag to commemorate the enormous achievement of landing a man on the surface of the moon. The original LM design had an American flag painted on the side of the descent stage, but he thought, “That’s not a very effective way to celebrate with an American flag.” Again with the help of McCraw, Kinzler sketched his idea of a freestanding full- size flag on a telescoping flagpole. The entire flag unit fit into a three-foot protective heat shroud attached to the LM ladder, making it accessible to the astronauts on the lunar surface, but not taking up any precious space inside the LM itself.




        The committee to whom he suggested the idea turned the entire project over to him. It is clear from the article that Kinzler intended no other flag than a patriotic U.S. flag.



        Kinzler's other accomplishments include:



        • Designed and built models for wind tunnel testing for NACA, NASA's predecessor.

        • Chief of Technical Services at Johnson Space Center in Houston.

        • Designed a small maneuvering unit used in Gemini spacewalks.

        • Designed the plaques on the lunar landers ("We come in peace for all mankind...").

        • Designed the golf club head that attached to the lunar sampling scoop, which Alan Shepard used to hit two golf balls on the moon.

        • Designed a sunshade for Skylab because its thermal shield was damaged at launch.

        • NASA distinguished service medal.

        • Obituary






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